Jan 6

[Chieftain]

He definitely had people around him that helped facilitate the attempted coup. The only question I have is is he a pathological liar, delusional or both.

I am inclined that he is a liar and a businessman. And I have some kind of antipathy for him. He does not inspire respect and trust in me. The rich man and his task and goal to get benefits everywhere I do not think about ordinary people

 

[Chieftain]

Trump is God!

laugh out loud))) God Trump, then laugh)

 

[Hughinn]

He definitely had people around him that helped facilitate the attempted coup. The only question I have is is he a pathological liar, delusional or both.

For over one hundred days, a federal courthouse in Portland was under attack by left wing activists who tried to burn it down, throwing firebombs and shining laser's to blind police. They set fires first to the doors to try to trap people inside.

These riots were not disenfranchised and marginalized people trying to make thier voices heard. These were college educated and University trained activists backed , funded and supported by the democrat party for the purpose of creating chaos and violence for political gain.

So keep on talking the same "orange man bad" horsehocky you always do @Big_paul .

But don't pretend like you're here trying to condemn using violent protests to make political manuevers more effective. And show your pretentious scorn for the "orange menace" while vehemently supporting the democrat party, who undeniably pulled the same shirt your accusing Trump of.

Because when joe Biden called Kyle Rittenhouse a "white supremacist" and Kamala Harris met all doe eyed and teary with the family of Jakob Blake, while going on national television and saying riots and protests shouldn't stop, they knew what the hell were doing. They were calling for violence. Because they thought violence and chaos would get them more power. The democrat party basically ordered a strike on a small American community by their own degenerate foot soldiers.

You on here pretending like there's a fundamental or moral difference between the two, is the very definition of delusional. And that goes for @Chieftain too

If course, you leftist derelict mongers here would struggle to understand such an obvious fact, it's true nonetheless.

 

[Cherokee]

Why can't it have been the middle. Let's say trump wasn't TRYING to start a

Fuck the middle ground, Chose your Side instead of playing both.

revolution. But the way he talks is so inflammatory and stupid, that some of his less

I love the way he talks.

intelligent followers who are so good at critical thinking, decided between what He was saying and what the caries most extremist people on the far-right message boards were saying, he was calling upon them to "save the country from the dems stealing HIS election". So a few thousand people crazy enough to belive it showed up, got into a mob mentality, and did some crazy shit.

When the "Minorities" don't get what they want, they riot and burn cities down. Talk is cheap, only violence will get attention.

Why is that so hard to believe? Then, especially with the idiots saying "defund the police" and antagonizing law enforcement officers, the LEO'S at the protest-turned-riot/insurrection decided fuck this I am gonna let people do whatever for many different reasons, but among them I imagine were: fuck resisting this insane mob, there is way too many of them and I don't want to get beaten/trampled/maime/possibly killed; and fuck this I am more on trumps side than the left anyway let's let people express their feelings.

Maybe they hoped they'd wear themselves out over time and things wouldn't go as far as they did. Who knows. But then obviously when they broke into the capitol building some of the cops felt the need to resist because shit was going too far.

If this would have been a group of blacks, the media would have portrayed it as a Civil Rights monumental moment!

I just don't see why it has to be "trump did all this on purpose and masterminded the whole thing" undoubtedly he created the situation and heavily fueled it because that's just what he does. but also more likely is that Russia and China were among the posters on these far right message boards who have been trying very hard to destabilize the US for a long time (and are very much succeeding). IMO they were most likely the ones who were sending out those "Trump needs you!" Emails or whatever the fuck people were getting telling them to fly to DC and shit.

Just like with the far left riots over the police brutality and killings/murders of civilians: we have seen both the left and the right go WAY too far in the last couple years. It is time to fucking stop being insane and start thinking critical about how to actually solve the problems that plague this country.

Campaign finance and political lobbying is the biggest issue because nothing will ever get done when there's millions of dollars on the line to help a career politician

Do you suggest the low lives of society dictate policy? People with $ are the smart ones, I would rather them guide our country.... Not Joe Blow Truck Driver, or the welfare family.

keep their career. I think if we all just focused on that as a country for like a few months we could figure it out and have a much better system that both sides would be happier with.

I don't want to get along... we need to divide. Send the democrats across the border to Canada.

 

[Hughinn]

And yet none of this reeks of a staged event to you?

Whether or not it was a staged event is irrelevant to real fundamental reason @Big_paul is on here railing about "assault on democracy" and all the other leftist CNN talking points he can memorize.

The real fundamental difference between the capital riots and last summers violent riots across America, was that one was in support of the entrenched establishment and the democrat party, the other was opposed.

 

[Regular Joe]

I don't want to get along... we need to divide. Send the democrats across the border to Canada.

And all the republicans to Mexico. Then the rest of us that don't follow parties can try to get this country back on track

 

[Hughinn]

And all the republicans to Mexico. Then the rest of us that don't follow parties can try to get this country back on track

You missed the opportunity to get it back, when you elected Joe Biden.

That had to be the most wretched display of ignorance and presumption in American history.

The democrat party got all you fools all riled up for "change" to run down there and vote for the same people that have been in charge forever.

Pathetic

 

[Regular Joe]

You missed the opportunity to get it back, when you elected Joe Biden.

That had to be the most wretched display of ignorance and presumption in American history.

The democrat party got all you fools all riled up for "change" to run down there and vote for the same people that have been in charge forever.

Pathetic

I voted for the orange moron.

 

[Regular Joe]

Sorry don't know what my phone is doing when I try and reply

 

[Hughinn]

Also that would require trump to care even a tiny little bit about average working Americans...which he absolutely couldn't care less about any of us. He is one of the most selfish, greedy, awful fucking people out there and he has and would continue to fuck over The People every chance he gets to funnel more money up to the tippy top...

Nice rant, now do, by all means explain how Joe Biden is better for working class Americans, and do it without talking about Donald Trump's character, just the policies.

Because it sure as fuck looks like joe Biden is funneling trillions of dollars to the top.

 

[Hughinn]

Wrong think?

They broke into the Capitol Building, bro. Are we talking about the same event?

People are free to think whatever they like. They’re not free, however, to storm government buildings because they’re butthurt over the result of an election.

Then what about that crowd who stormed police stations, federal courthouses and city halls all last summer? Why were they largely allowed to do that?

 

[malfeasance]

Then what about that crowd who stormed police stations, federal courthouses and city halls all last summer? Why were they largely allowed to do that?

Because stopping them requires more force than the twenty first century public is willing to accept.

Nevertheless, none of these compare to what happened at the Capital during the certification of a national election. Not in importance or impact or history.

 

[Chieftain]

Whether or not it was a staged event is irrelevant to real fundamental reason @Big_paul is on here railing about "assault on democracy" and all the other leftist CNN talking points he can memorize.

The real fundamental difference between the capital riots and last summers violent riots across America, was that one was in support of the entrenched establishment and the democrat party, the other was opposed.

These riots and the mess that was happening to me seem to be clearly planned actions at someone's orders and at someone's money. The question of who benefits from it is not stable in the country

 

[Chieftain]

And all the republicans to Mexico. Then the rest of us that don't follow parties can try to get this country back on track

haha this is unrealizable) And many will not agree to go to this beautiful country

 

[Chieftain]

You missed the opportunity to get it back, when you elected Joe Biden.

That had to be the most wretched display of ignorance and presumption in American history.

The democrat party got all you fools all riled up for "change" to run down there and vote for the same people that have been in charge forever.

Pathetic

Joe Biden, as for me, is not the best choice for the leader of the country. He is not a leader, he is some kind of puppet in someone's hands. It will be difficult to predict what will happen to us in the end. And what will happen to our great country

 

[MFAAS]

Nice rant, now do, by all means explain how Joe Biden is better for working class Americans, and do it without talking about Donald Trump's character, just the policies.

Because it sure as fuck looks like joe Biden is funneling trillions of dollars to the top.

I don't like Biden either..? I actually really fucking hate him. He's a piece of human garbage just like trump. Fuck the democrats and the Republicans. They are both corrupt, bought-and-paid-for corporate puppets. I am literally unaffiliated with any party in my state voter registration.

That's EXACTLY why I said campaign finance and political lobbying is the number 1 thing we need to overhaul. If we could fix that then we might actually get to vote FOR someone and not just AGAINST the other party.

Fuck the middle ground, Chose your Side instead of playing both.

I am not "playing both sides", I am literally expressing my honest opinion. Not everybody is an extremist. What you said there is just ridiculous. The middle ground contains the few people left with any critical thinking skills; the middle ground is for those who aren't "sheep" that "picked a side" and chose to believe every crazy thing that side says...

When the "Minorities" don't get what they want, they riot and burn cities down. Talk is cheap, only violence will get attention.

If this would have been a group of blacks, the media would have portrayed it as a Civil Rights monumental moment!

Do you suggest the low lives of society dictate policy? People with $ are the smart ones, I would rather them guide our country.... Not Joe Blow Truck Driver, or the welfare family.

What? This is the craziest thing you said, man.

Most importantly: I don't want ANYBODY to DICTATE our society. That is the whole point of living in a fucking Democracy...or do you want to live in a dictatorship? It sounds like you'd be more interested in an Oligarchy where the rich just dictate the country for everyone else. Not sure if you realized it, but basically what you're describing is Russia.. is that really the country you want to model the US after..?

These riots and the mess that was happening to me seem to be clearly planned actions at someone's orders and at someone's money. The question of who benefits from it is not stable in the country

I'll tell your who: Russia and China. It's been proven that they've been tampering in our elections and using internet social media platforms to inflame tensions and further the divide between the right and left. That's exactly what I've been saying. I really have no doubtthat the Jan 6th insurrection and the BLM riots getting way out of control were fueled by foreign adversaries. it was proven they had set up groups on social media, planning protests and get-togethers for opposing sides in the same location at the same time in the hopes of causing a clash. It was proven that they were putting our tons of misinformation in the 2016 election in favor of trump, because they knew trump would exacerbate the political divide and further destabilize the country. Which he VERY MUCH did do. Facebook and Twitter confirmed this activity in public statements.

They are playing people like puppets! Their whole mission is to divide us and further destabilize the US. All of this in an attempt to "dethrone" the US as the leading economic power in the modern world. They're doing the same in other western countries too, because Russia and China want to be on top, baby!!

The extremists on both sides are the real sheep. They're the ones being played by Russia and China and who knows who else. North Korea? Saudi Arabia? The UAE? Idk. All I know is that the only people I see just gobbling down whatever their preferred news source or YouTube influencer/blogger/Podcaster throws at them are the far left and far right.

 

[Hughinn]

Because stopping them requires more force than the twenty first century public is willing to accept.

Nevertheless, none of these compare to what happened at the Capital during the certification of a national election. Not in importance or impact or history.

That's horseshit.

The people, in charge, the mayor's and governors declined to do anything about these riots because these riots were not against the establishment, they were sponsored, funded and organized by the democrat party. On behalf of the establishment.

These riots were not marginalized people protesting across the country for rights. These were college educated university bred political activists financed through the democrat party political action committees and vote blue npo's.

At the same time, democrat party politicians were often marching with and taking selfies with the rioters. They set up bail funds for the ones who got arrested. BLM took in millions of dollars from organizations like Facebook and Google, and a big percentage of that went to the democrat party and vote blue npo's.

When a man in process of fighting the police and kidnapping two children was shot by the police, and Joe Biden went on television saying "these shots pierce the soul of our nation" "we have to fight for our future" he knew what he was doing.

When Kamala Harris met with Jakob Blake and his family all doe eyed and teary calling him a hero and saying she was proud of him she knew what she was doing.
The people who craft these statements and events are well versed in human psychology and knew exactly what they were doing.

They were calling for violence and chaos. And thier foot soldiers answered the call. Thier on the ground organizations like BLM and antifa were sent and directed by democrat party operatives, praised and encouraged by democrat party leadership and financed by democrat party npo's.

That's why nobody stopped them.

So cut the bullshit and call it what it is.

The only difference between that and the capital, is that one was on behalf of the democrat party and it's quest for power , and the other was opposed.

 

[Hughinn]

These riots and the mess that was happening to me seem to be clearly planned actions at someone's orders and at someone's money. The question of who benefits from it is not stable in the country

Violence and chaos orchestrated by the people who are now in charge.

Because chaos gives them excuses to grasp for more power.

 

[Cherokee]

I don't like Biden either..? I actually really fucking hate him. He's a piece of human garbage just like trump. Fuck the democrats and the Republicans. They are both corrupt, bought-and-paid-for corporate puppets. I am literally unaffiliated with any party in my state voter registration.

That's EXACTLY why I said campaign finance and political lobbying is the number 1 thing we need to overhaul. If we could fix that then we might actually get to vote FOR someone and not just AGAINST the other party.


I am not "playing both sides", I am literally expressing my honest opinion. Not everybody is an extremist. What you said there is just ridiculous. The middle ground contains the few people left with any critical thinking skills; the middle ground is for those who aren't "sheep" that "picked a side" and chose to believe every crazy thing that side says...

What? This is the craziest thing you said, man.

Most importantly: I don't want ANYBODY to DICTATE our society. That is the whole point of living in a fucking Democracy...or do you want to live in a dictatorship? It

Do you want the majority to rule? The majority are retards? Or do you want the elite to rule? Next time you are on an airplane ask yourself.. do you want the majority flying the plane.... or the elite ( pilot).

those with lower IQ's have more kids. More kids = more piece of shit democrat scum voters.

The USA is doomed. Has been since stupid men gave women the right to vote

sounds like you'd be more interested in an Oligarchy where the rich just dictate the country for everyone else. Not sure if you realized it, but basically what you're describing is Russia.. is that really the country you want to model the US after..?

I'll tell your who: Russia and China. It's been proven that they've been tampering in our elections and using internet social media platforms to inflame tensions and further the divide between the right and left. That's exactly what I've been saying. I really have no doubtthat the Jan 6th insurrection and the BLM riots getting way out of control were fueled by foreign adversaries. it was proven they had set up groups on social media, planning protests and get-togethers for opposing sides in the same location at the same time in the hopes of causing a clash. It was proven that they were putting our tons of misinformation in the 2016 election in favor of trump, because they knew trump would exacerbate the political divide and further destabilize the country. Which he VERY MUCH did do. Facebook and Twitter confirmed this activity in public statements.

They are playing people like puppets! Their whole mission is to divide us and further destabilize the US. All of this in an attempt to "dethrone" the US as the leading economic power in the modern world. They're doing the same in other western countries too, because Russia and China want to be on top, baby!!

The extremists on both sides are the real sheep. They're the ones being played by Russia and China and who knows who else. North Korea? Saudi Arabia? The UAE? Idk. All I know is that the only people I see just gobbling down whatever their preferred news source or YouTube influencer/blogger/Podcaster throws at them are the far left and far right.

 

[malfeasance]

That's horseshit.

The people, in charge, the mayor's and governors declined to do anything about these riots because these riots were not against the establishment, they were sponsored, funded and organized by the democrat party. On behalf of the establishment.

These riots were not marginalized people protesting across the country for rights. These were college educated university bred political activists financed through the democrat party political action committees and vote blue npo's.

At the same time, democrat party politicians were often marching with and taking selfies with the rioters. They set up bail funds for the ones who got arrested. BLM took in millions of dollars from organizations like Facebook and Google, and a big percentage of that went to the democrat party and vote blue npo's.

When a man in process of fighting the police and kidnapping two children was shot by the police, and Joe Biden went on television saying "these shots pierce the soul of our nation" "we have to fight for our future" he knew what he was doing.

When Kamala Harris met with Jakob Blake and his family all doe eyed and teary calling him a hero and saying she was proud of him she knew what she was doing.
The people who craft these statements and events are well versed in human psychology and knew exactly what they were doing.

They were calling for violence and chaos. And thier foot soldiers answered the call. Thier on the ground organizations like BLM and antifa were sent and directed by democrat party operatives, praised and encouraged by democrat party leadership and financed by democrat party npo's.

That's why nobody stopped them.

So cut the bullshit and call it what it is.

The only difference between that and the capital, is that one was on behalf of the democrat party and it's quest for power , and the other was opposed.

Your response betrays an emotional, knee jerk reaction indicating no ability even to consider the viewpoint being offered. There is nothing in what you wrote that even indicates you understood what I wrote, much less addressed it in your response.