Is the Ip prop/susp combo still painful?

yes, it still hurts. You're going to be in pain, my friend. Tren and P/S? You masochist, you!

If you really want to eliminate most of the P/S pain, cook it junkie style. If you need a more in depth explanation, let me know and I'll post it here for you. Trust me, it works. I've got 2cc's in my left quad fom last night and it doesn't hurt at all.
 
Grizzly said:
yes, it still hurts. You're going to be in pain, my friend. Tren and P/S? You masochist, you!

If you really want to eliminate most of the P/S pain, cook it junkie style. If you need a more in depth explanation, let me know and I'll post it here for you. Trust me, it works. I've got 2cc's in my left quad fom last night and it doesn't hurt at all.


Cook it Junkie style? On a spoon with a flame?

Damn Grizz, don't you worry about that kind of heat making it crash out of solution?
 
Phreezer said:
Cook it Junkie style? On a spoon with a flame?

Damn Grizz, don't you worry about that kind of heat making it crash out of solution?

Technically, I use a metal measuring cup and an electric stove, but it's all the same.

Crash out? No, not really. I'm not sure if his recent batches corrected the problem, but the stuff I have from a year ago has crystals floating already(sunk, actually), so I just microwave it to get them back in. Anyhow, I'm sure it does crash out, but after it's in me what the hell does it matter?

Oh, I may have misunderstood that. I don't see how the heat would matter. what would it do? It only takes like 30 seconds, so I wouldn't imagine that 30 seconds on medium causes too much heat, but I could be wrong.
 
Well if it does crash out...and IIRC (I think Hulk had a great thread on meso about shooting gear that has crashed out of solution...maybe Hogg remembers the specifics) You will get testosterone crystals that will sit in your body and never dissolve...Something about the human body temp not being high enough to ever make them dissolve...so that is why it is important that you never shoot test that has "crashed"..Now I could be way off on this, and I'm currently taking some medication that make me a little light headed so I can't remember the specifics.....I really need Hogg to help me out on this one...YOU AROUND BUDDY?
 
I remember that thread. I posted it back then and I'll post it right now; I think that's bunk. I've been doing this for the last 1 1/2 yrs and I've had no problems. I don't see where it would matter. Your body will absorb it because that's what bodies do. If that were the case, then water based, micronized suspension and winny would cause problems, too. Least, it seems like it should.
 
Phreezer said:
Well if it does crash out...and IIRC (I think Hulk had a great thread on meso about shooting gear that has crashed out of solution...maybe Hogg remembers the specifics) You will get testosterone crystals that will sit in your body and never dissolve...Something about the human body temp not being high enough to ever make them dissolve...so that is why it is important that you never shoot test that has "crashed"..Now I could be way off on this, and I'm currently taking some medication that make me a little light headed so I can't remember the specifics.....I really need Hogg to help me out on this one...YOU AROUND BUDDY?



I can't say i agree with this either, I mean what about suspension and winny...They both are crystals in water and all you do is shake that up before you shoot it...
 
Grizzly,
How long do you microwave the prop/susp? I have the 120 ml container and it has some crystals at the bottom.

Thanks,
Terps
 
Originally, mine was in the 120ml, however, I rebottled. I warmed it a little bit(just put it in for 15 seconds a couple times, checking it between each warming) and then I moved it to (here comes a bunch of flames) bottles of visine that I had emptied out.

Like all products "microwave times may vary." For instnace, I was at my parents all last week, so I had to do 20 secs to get everything kosher. The other day, I was here and I stuck it in for 10 secs and it spilled over GODDAMNIT! Start small and work up.
 
Grizzly said:
Originally, mine was in the 120ml, however, I rebottled. I warmed it a little bit(just put it in for 15 seconds a couple times, checking it between each warming) and then I moved it to (here comes a bunch of flames) bottles of visine that I had emptied out.

Like all products "microwave times may vary." For instnace, I was at my parents all last week, so I had to do 20 secs to get everything kosher. The other day, I was here and I stuck it in for 10 secs and it spilled over GODDAMNIT! Start small and work up.


Here's a stupid question. Do you shoot it after you warm it up or do you let it cool a bit? I don't want to shoot hot oil and make the situation worse.
 
Grizzly said:
I remember that thread. I posted it back then and I'll post it right now; I think that's bunk. I've been doing this for the last 1 1/2 yrs and I've had no problems. I don't see where it would matter. Your body will absorb it because that's what bodies do. If that were the case, then water based, micronized suspension and winny would cause problems, too. Least, it seems like it should.

I agree 100% with Grizzly.
My experience has been fine with shooting gear that has fallen out of solution.
MH
 

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