Is reta over tir good idea?

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I switched from tirz to Reta after being on 7.5 tirz for a few weeks. It was giving me malaise / fatigue for 24-36 hours after the shots (twice weekly) and the appetite suppression was excessive. With reta I get zero fatigue issues. I’m on 4 mg weekly and the appetite suppression is right around where it was with the tirz 7.5. My blood sugar is also much better on Reta. It was never high but it’s 25% lower on Reta. I much prefer Reta but if tirz was all that was available that would be just fine also.

Also, all GLP drugs will increase RHR a little. It should not he a significant amount. If it is, I would assess things.
I think it depends on what "group" you belong to. If you're looking for "pure" weight loss, and you know you're losing muscle and fat, then Tirz would be the better choice. If you're into fitness, of some kind and not some couch potato fitness person, then I think reta is the better option.

The recomp with Reta is real. Outside of that, it depends on which one you can tolerate.
 
reta is always the most practical and true and tried. tirz is just if you need some appetite suppression.

both are amazing for blood sugar management
 
reta is always the most practical and true and tried. tirz is just if you need some appetite suppression.

both are amazing for blood sugar management
This is also a 75 IQ post.

Reta is the most "true and tried"? It isn't even fucking FDA approved yet LMAO. I guess the several million plus people on Tirzepatide both legally prescribed and not don't contribute to being practical and true and tried in clown world.
 
This is also a 75 IQ post.

Reta is the most "true and tried"? It isn't even fucking FDA approved yet LMAO. I guess the several million plus people on Tirzepatide both legally prescribed and not don't contribute to being practical and true and tried in clown world.
seriously idk where these people are coming from
 
This is also a 75 IQ post.

Reta is the most "true and tried"? It isn't even fucking FDA approved yet LMAO. I guess the several million plus people on Tirzepatide both legally prescribed and not don't contribute to being practical and true and tried in clown world.
Lol I laughed at this as well.
 
you are 75 iq
MG for MG Tirz is better. If Reta were better, they wouldn't need to escalate the dosages higher just to get comparable Tirz food suppression. I'm on Reta right now. You sound like one of these jagoffs basing your comment on "Clinical trials". When the clinical trials were/are entirely based on Fat and Lazy Diabetics with fatty livers.

Now, if that fits you, I see your point (and still will laugh, because you're wrong overall). But, I'm guessing 90% of the ppl on this site don't fit that bill. Now, go back to stuffing square pegs in round holes, and wipe the slobber off your mouth. LOL

If you're going by "clinical trials," one reason Reta may have had more weight loss than Tirz in the phase 2 trial is because of the more aggressive titration schedule.
 
MG for MG Tirz is better. If Reta were better, they wouldn't need to escalate the dosages higher just to get comparable Tirz food suppression. I'm on Reta right now. You sound like one of these jagoffs basing your comment on "Clinical trials". When the clinical trials were/are entirely based on Fat and Lazy Diabetics with fatty livers.

Now, if that fits you, I see your point (and still will laugh, because you're wrong overall). But, I'm guessing 90% of the ppl on this site don't fit that bill. Now, go back to stuffing square pegs in round holes, and wipe the slobber off your mouth. LOL

If you're going by "clinical trials," one reason Reta may have had more weight loss than Tirz in the phase 2 trial is because of the more aggressive titration schedule.
you're having an imaginary argument
please stop posting until you actually contribute something worthwhile instead of dumping whatever vibes you got from other peoples experiences on reddit or something.
 
you're having an imaginary argument
please stop posting until you actually contribute something worthwhile instead of dumping whatever vibes you got from other peoples experiences on reddit or something.
I go off of the bloodwork of the ppl I coach, other folks telling us the same thing, etc.. You're going off of studies, built on the backs of a population that is what, maybe 10% in here (if that).

I use the clinical studies as a guideline; you use them as a law. You feel a competing bodybuilder should strictly go by clinical studies using fat diabetics with fatty livers.

Stop the crying. Twinkletoes, you're breaking my heart...
 
I go off of the bloodwork of the ppl I coach, other folks telling us the same thing, etc.. You're going off of studies, built on the backs of a population that is what, maybe 10% in here (if that).

I use the clinical studies as a guideline; you use them as a law. You feel a competing bodybuilder should strictly go by clinical studies using fat diabetics with fatty livers.

Stop the crying. Twinkletoes, you're breaking my heart...
what study? are you hallucinating?
take some supplements to support your brain health, ive never said any of these things, you're so clueless you dont even know how to have an argument so you think its just making up strawmen.
 
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you're having an imaginary argument
please stop posting until you actually contribute something worthwhile instead of dumping whatever vibes you got from other peoples experiences on reddit or something.

I even gave you something from the clinical trials. I know you didn't read what I posted. Remember this:

"If you're going by "clinical trials," one reason Reta may have had more weight loss than Tirz in the phase 2 trial is because of the more aggressive titration schedule."
 
I even gave you something from the clinical trials. I know you didn't read what I posted. Remember this:

"If you're going by "clinical trials," one reason Reta may have had more weight loss than Tirz in the phase 2 trial is because of the more aggressive titration schedule."
hold on,
i thought I was the one who is too focused on clinical trials
but its you

You're going off of studies, built on the backs of a population that is what, maybe 10% in here (if that).

I use the clinical studies as a guideline; you use them as a law. You feel a competing bodybuilder should strictly go by clinical studies using fat diabetics with fatty livers.
can you keep your argument consistent instead of flip flopping based on your emotions, keep your thoughts straight, am I a nerd that thinks too highly of studies? or am I not reading the studies? i thought you had me all figured out Mr. "Definately not 75 iq"
 
Do you even know what a "clinical study" is? Let's start there. Reta is about to go into "Phase 3" of the Lilly clinical trial process. I see I've literally wasted my time with someone who has no clue.
You sound like one of these jagoffs basing your comment on "Clinical trials". When the clinical trials were/are entirely based on Fat and Lazy Diabetics with fatty livers.

If you're going by "clinical trials," one reason Reta may have had more weight loss than Tirz in the phase 2 trial is because of the more aggressive titration schedule.
 
hold on,
i thought I was the one who is too focused on clinical trials
but its you


can you keep your argument consistent instead of flip flopping based on your emotions, keep your thoughts straight, am I a nerd that thinks too highly of studies? or am I not reading the studies? i thought you had me all figured out Mr. "Definately not 75 iq"
You don't even know what your argument, whining, or gripe is about. I've literally wasted my time. When you said, "What study?", I knew you were blowing hot air. You get the last word. I got my laugh for the day. And the day is just starting..
 
In the past he stacked tirz and sema at starter doses. I hate sema ok it’s own. Now stacking 1mg ret with 2.5mg tirz and it’s wonderful. Started at 2mg ret and no tirz - that was a miserable week. Don’t start at 2mg Reta.
 

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