Is Meso Losing Its Edge?

[hellerhiwater]

It’s just mildly ironic that on a forum built around anabolic compounds, the most tightly controlled substance is tone.

Have juiceheads always been this eloquent and poignant??

Some of the shit y’all say has me questioning where tf I am.

Made me want to take off my hat like I was at a funeral or something goodness gracious

Tl;dr big man say word good

 

[hellerhiwater]

The recent enforcement action was about protecting members’ absolute freedom to report disputes, scams, disagreements, product issues, or any other negative experience with any source. Members must be welcomed and encouraged to speak openly about sources, with no source being above criticism regardless of reputation or longevity or number of supporters.

Sources are prohibited from taking actions that stifle, suppress, intimidate, or retaliate against members who report complaints. The same standard applies to all members: no one may discourage reporting, pressure complainants into silence, normalize retaliation, or attempt to shield a source from scrutiny.

This principle has always been central to MESO-Rx. We do not protect sources from criticism. We do not discourage dissatisfied customers from reporting. We do not bury complaints.

This is not complicated. It is not controversial. It is fundamental to harm reduction. We invite every member to support this principle and help maintain a culture where transparency and accountability come first.

Now that the enforcement action’s purpose has been made abundantly clear, and the offending member has signaled their contrition and intention to abide by the guidelines laid out—is it not appropriate to lift the restrictions to signal a good faith desire to move forward in cooperation with the stated goals?

I for one am confident these fellas have a plan for how to modify their speech in the future to retain the air of harm reduction while still adding their pedigree’s weight to the discussion.

Respectfully requested, of course.

 

[1x1x1]

I’m gonna say this straight. What the hell is happening to this forum?

Moderation used to be about stopping scams and obvious nonsense. Now it feels like walking through a kindergarten with a whistle. “Don’t discuss this here.” “Don’t say that.” And now I’m being told I can’t post in the Q thread until April because I called an idiot an idiot? On a steroid forum?

This is a board built around testosterone, iron, risk, and grown men making grown decisions. Not a book club for feelings management. Since when did this place turn into HR at a corporate office?

Is this the GLP-1 era? Did appetite suppression somehow suppress everyone’s backbone too? It honestly feels like the edges are getting sanded down to make everything safe and controlled. And the more “controlled” it gets, the more lifeless it feels.

People wonder why the forum is quieter. Why the heavy hitters don’t post anymore. Why the guys with actual experience stopped sharing. Maybe because the environment shifted from blunt and honest to tiptoe and sanitize. A lot of the dudes who actually brought value just disappeared. And that’s not random.

You can modernize a platform without neutering it. Progress doesn’t have to mean sterilizing personality and shutting down straight talk. Right now it feels like overcorrection.

At this rate, it’s not trolls killing the forum. It’s death by soft moderation and slow culture shift. And yeah, that’s frustrating to watch.

professional lurker here even before creating my account, but i agree with everything u said. Still i am deeply grateful of meso it is my favorite forum, I have learned a lot from here in various different areas be it brewing, pharmacology and the vendors. Really glad we have vendors doing quality stuff and testing raws with hplc ms and we can have more trust with what we are buying. Only thing that has bothered me since i joined is sometimes i see people jumping on others 1st thing 1st and talk shit on them when they don’t fit the norm of the average gear user because of what they take, their cycles, experiments, methods or even gear journey like not doing test as a 1st cycle which every gymbro says to do, but that isn't exclusive to this forum or even online at all, happens IRL too...

 

[Cman90]

professional lurker here even before creating my account, but i agree with everything u said. Still i am deeply grateful of meso it is my favorite forum, I have learned a lot from here in various different areas

Looks like you skipped right over one of the most important threads about forum etiquette and new member intros.

How about you do some "professional lurking" in this thread:

Forum Etiquette Thread '⚡Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum. New Members ⭐️PLEASE READ⭐️'

Feb 21, 2023

Welcome to the MESO-Rx Forum community! I want to take the opportunity to offer a brief overview of the MESO Forum.

The MESO-Rx Forum is comprised of 25 subforums. The subforums cover a wide variety of topics related to the world of anabolic steroids, performance, and performance-enhancing drugs with an emphasis on minimizing the associated harm and risk.

Each subforum has a different focus. For example:

The "Steroid Forum" subforum emphasizes the use of anabolic steroids to increase muscle size, strength and performance;

The "Human Growth Hormone and...

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[SmallTitsIRL]

Damn, was I the only one banned with a reason?
Fair to say that I was going on a new-member, because he "supposedly" sent 8k$ to a source, and was repeatedly asking the same question. I'm reformed now, and like @BALLISTIC has said, I'll abstain myself from answering and will start to down vote those guys.

"Comments such as “Holy fuck mate how old are you?”, “You should be blocked,” and framing the complainant as the problem because he was “tiring” shift the focus away from evaluating the source’s conduct and toward disciplining the person raising the concern. When members publicly suggest that someone should be blocked for asking about delayed communication or missing tracking, it sends a clear message to everyone reading: complain and you’ll be punished. That directly undermines the environment we are trying to maintain in the Steroid Underground, where accountability and open reporting are essential.

Additionally, the “IQ of a Somali” remark is unacceptable. Racial or ethnic insults degrade the overall community climate and have no place in a forum that claims to prioritize harm reduction and transparency. Even during heated discussions, that standard does not change."

@dinfar1337 how was that gyno surgeon and the horse dish in Kazakhstan? Might need that surgery sooner than what I expected.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Damn, was I the only one banned with a reason?
Fair to say that I was going on a new-member, because he "supposedly" sent 8k$ to a source, and was repeatedly asking the same question. I'm reformed now, and like @BALLISTIC has said, I'll abstain myself from answering and will start to down vote those guys.

"Comments such as “Holy fuck mate how old are you?”, “You should be blocked,” and framing the complainant as the problem because he was “tiring” shift the focus away from evaluating the source’s conduct and toward disciplining the person raising the concern. When members publicly suggest that someone should be blocked for asking about delayed communication or missing tracking, it sends a clear message to everyone reading: complain and you’ll be punished. That directly undermines the environment we are trying to maintain in the Steroid Underground, where accountability and open reporting are essential.

Additionally, the “IQ of a Somali” remark is unacceptable. Racial or ethnic insults degrade the overall community climate and have no place in a forum that claims to prioritize harm reduction and transparency. Even during heated discussions, that standard does not change."

@dinfar1337 how was that gyno surgeon and the horse dish in Kazakhstan? Might need that surgery sooner than what I expected.

@dinfar1337 how was that gyno surgeon and the horse dish in Kazakhstan? Might need that surgery sooner than what I expected.

don't think I ever had horse meat (key point)

 

[bossetti]

don't think I ever had horse meat (key point)

for real??????

 

[SmallTitsIRL]

And the thread derails into horse meat all because of my comment, fuck me

 

[The Answ3r]

don't think I ever had horse meat (key point)

Yeah, in the States it’s basically treated like a crime against humanity… but honestly, it’s insanely good meat. Super lean, high-quality protein, very clean taste.

It’s not something people eat every day, more like a special occasion thing or something you order at a proper restaurant if you get the chance. If you ever have the opportunity, at least try it once. In my opinion it’s leaner and cleaner than beef, chicken, even lamb.

And now that I’m typing this I’m low-key hungry thinking about it.

 

[Photon]

don't think I ever had horse meat (key point)

I'm sure most of you guys have, either knowingly or unknowingly

2013 horse meat scandal - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[bossetti]

Yeah, in the States it’s basically treated like a crime against humanity… but honestly, it’s insanely good meat. Super lean, high-quality protein, very clean taste.

are u joking????? u have to try bresaola,great food!!!

 

[IndividualMan]

Horse meat absolutely fucks. Great taste and texture. Usually served with some rather fatty stuff though.

 

[Country Club Hero]

Fuckin weirdos. Horses and dogs, we leave alone. Even pamper. This ain’t some 3rd world shithole where we need to eat anything that moves because we’re poverty stricken and overcrowded.

If that’s the case where you live then I guess I understand. Hunger is hunger. I would eat you weird fuckers if I was starving to death. But we were talking about in the states so no need for any of those odd eats.

Now, please get back to the topic at hand. Enough horse shit.

 

[The Answ3r]

Fuckin weirdos. Horses and dogs, we leave alone. Even pamper. This ain’t some 3rd world shithole where we need to eat anything that moves because we’re poverty stricken and overcrowded.

If that’s the case where you live then I guess I understand. Hunger is hunger. I would eat you weird fuckers if I was starving to death. But we were talking about in the states so no need for any of those odd eats.

Now, please get back to the topic at hand. Enough horse shit.

@MESO-Rx Administrator

I’m honestly trying to understand why we can’t reach a reasonable resolution and lift the posting restriction. From my perspective, this doesn’t seem like something that warrants a prolonged limitation.

I’d really appreciate a direct response instead of another template reply. I’m open to a normal, straightforward conversation so we can clear this up properly.

 

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[MindlessWork]

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Ohh readalot is so missed as he provided so much entertainment along with Ghoul.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Fuckin weirdos. Horses and dogs, we leave alone.

-> only fluffy bunnys, and an occasional lookmaxxer.....