Is High Protein a Waste? (Mike Israetel Vid)

[Deleted member 123722]

You say, "No matter what the studies say," but they seem to back you up (and your personal results) if you look at the studies in post #4 that @Bumpygooch posted. Higher protein works better for body composition purposes (i.e., bodybuilding), and there is no upper limit to that protein intake in any of the studies (I don't mean that one does not exist but only that none of the studies have gone high enough to find it if it exists).

It is frustrating because proper diet seems to be the major thing that is holding most steroid forum users back from their goals.

Sometimes the bros know before the science catches up, but also, sometimes the bros just do what they are told and have been passed down, I guess each one of us have to experiment for ourselves.

I can say for a fact that higher protein, like 1.2-1.5g/lb, was a major factor in the 25lbs I’ve added since able 2018. No matter what studies say, they aren’t performed on trained, enhanced, intensely focused athletes with a pure hypertrophy goal. It changed my trajectory. The same to be said for my training style that Isreatel now posting studies on saying it’s unnecessary to go to failure. I’ll stay in the trenches with an occasional trip to the science clouds. Find your own equation and operate with it until it’s ground to fine powder.

Yea the whole RIR thing is too "sciency" if you ask me lol. I think whatever method one chooses, destroy the muscle and recover; whether its once a week or twice a week with lower volume, at the end of the week, if one makes the same amount of damage, it logically follows the same results will occur.

 

[CoffeeZombie]

In general, quite adequate figures. I know guys who eat a lot of protein, bet on it, and they celebrate their progress in form. but the main thing here is that the kidneys work well

High level is 2.2g per kg... so someone like me at 110 kilos, would need only 242 grams of protein per day, which comes out to 1g per lb. Basically what both videos are saying above lol.

 

[CoffeeZombie]

You have to read the studies, it’s much more nuanced than x=y. Essentially, more protein led to better body composition. Anecdotally, I weigh 245, I consume 350-400g protein/day, keeping fats at 15% or so, and I’m able to stay lean eating 4000-4200 cals/day.

Yes, many people note that more protein leads to better body recomposition

 

[CoffeeZombie]

My results are correlative with the high protein. Is it causal? Not sure. Did the 1g/lb for 2 decades as that was always the benchmark. @Mac11wildcat does something along the same lines.

And you can see an example of your diet food with a gram, if it's not a secret

 

[CoffeeZombie]

I recently just discovered that I look much better on high carb , Lowish to moderate protein and low fat . I have a weird metabolism but on high pro, low to no carb and mod fat, I was more watery , flatter and constantly felt bloated. Calories were similar. I’ve heard the opposite from others’ experiences though. I guess you have to experiment.

It works better for me when there is not a lot of fat, but a lot of protein.