injected today tren and test, both came out, i dont know whats wrong

I can't see how that "leave the needle in" works for leaking. If you think of it, it makes no sense.. No one in the medical field is keeping a needle in after they finish with injection. By keeping it in you're just dabbling with excess damage due to higher risk of whole syringe moving back and forth.

Also, i tried it twice just to for the sake of experience and i still had leaking, so it's a no no for me. Now, i think op is overreacting by saying it came all back, it's probably 2-3 drops, there's no way this could happen.
Your muscle starts to take in the oil, pinning quickly and pulling out could possibly cause a reverse suction.

Just my thoughts, I’ve done this for 7 years never had leakage and also I massage the site with an alcohol pad after I pull out for 15 secs to. Never has pip.
 
Just my thoughts, I’ve done this for 7 years never had leakage and also I massage the site with an alcohol pad after I pull out for 15 secs to. Never has pip.

If you tried multiple times doing it without leaving the needle in and noticed leaking, then i can hear it.. otherwise it still doesn't make sense. I tried both ways and i have some minor leaking no matter what.

This could make sense with a fat needle like 16G which digs a big hole but with 25 and even 29G in my case it's so tiny that it seems quite impossible to cause a reverse suction.

Just my train of thoughts , I'm not saying you're 100% wrong. I'm speaking from my own experience.
 
i injected my delt today with 1 ml using 25 g and i immediately pulled the needle out and waited, ,, and waited, ,, then a tiny little blood droplet appeared , so this has got to be user error for sure and definitely doesn't make much sense, Maybe op is posting , just to post "something" ? As this seems like a very individual thing, that 99% of gear users aren't really experiencing, ,
 
i injected my delt today with 1 ml using 25 g and i immediately pulled the needle out and waited, ,, and waited, ,, then a tiny little blood droplet appeared , so this has got to be user error for sure and definitely doesn't make much sense, Maybe op is posting , just to post "something" ? As this seems like a very individual thing, that 99% of gear users aren't really experiencing, ,
i mostly posted because i didnt really know why oil came out
i pinned today and had some oil come out today, only in 1 delt tho
I left the needle in and all that
Maybe i have too much scar tissue, i have no idea, even tho i use a 27gauge
 
I've seen a tip that might help. Can't really do this with the delts because you need two hands to do it.

Let's use the glutes as an example. The tip is easy, pull the skin to the side, pin your compound(s), leave the syringe in for a bit. Pull the syringe out and release the skin. The skin will spring back and cover that little hole you just made. No leakage. I think it impossible to do with the delts though lol, unless you get creative.
 
I've seen a tip that might help. Can't really do this with the delts because you need two hands to do it.

Let's use the glutes as an example. The tip is easy, pull the skin to the side, pin your compound(s), leave the syringe in for a bit. Pull the syringe out and release the skin. The skin will spring back and cover that little hole you just made. No leakage. I think it impossible to do with the delts though lol, unless you get creative.
commonly called the "Z track" technique ,,
 
I'm fast in (dart technique has no discomfort), depress plunger (goes smooth with 23g), and fast out

Slowly pulling out the needle seems like it just gives the oil more time to "follow the needle" whereas pulling it out quickly, your tissue closes back together to block it - whether or not that is what really happens, I don't get leakage
 
You can z track delts it just takes creativity (pull skin back with bottom of palm and inject with fingers of same hand), but “all” the oil never leaks out only a tiny bit even if it seems like a lot
 
Slowly pulling out the needle seems like it just gives the oil more time to "follow the needle" whereas pulling it out quickly, your tissue closes back together to block it - whether or not that is what really happens, I don't get leakage

Now, this makes sense! I'm pulling out the needle slowly, really don't know why i guess because that's how i started doing it and this could be a reason why 7/10 times i have some leaking. I'll try pulling out faster from now on.
 
I'm fast in (dart technique has no discomfort), depress plunger (goes smooth with 23g), and fast out

Slowly pulling out the needle seems like it just gives the oil more time to "follow the needle" whereas pulling it out quickly, your tissue closes back together to block it - whether or not that is what really happens, I don't get leakage
yeah maybe that should be the issue, i normally put it in and pull it out slowly, still scared of needles o_O
 
The only thing that comes to my mind is you used a doll insulin needle when you injected the needle went through the skin but just pushed the muscle tissue further inside and didn’t penetrate the tissue once oil injected (subq) pressure pushed the oil out
But again don’t see something like this happen.
Sometimes I inject and little bit of oil leak outside from the injection spot it might look a lot but it’s probably like 0.001 .. I usually wipe it with my finger and give it a sniff am I the only one who does that?
 
The only thing that comes to my mind is you used a doll insulin needle when you injected the needle went through the skin but just pushed the muscle tissue further inside and didn’t penetrate the tissue once oil injected (subq) pressure pushed the oil out
But again don’t see something like this happen.
Sometimes I inject and little bit of oil leak outside from the injection spot it might look a lot but it’s probably like 0.001 .. I usually wipe it with my finger and give it a sniff am I the only one who does that?
i sometimes lick it LOL
yeah it was probably a really small amount, i feel fine from it
most probably i just took the needle slowly or some bs, im putting some air next time
 
brutal, tried pinning today with a 27g, fucking 3 minutes pinning, had to take a fucking break with my other hand i was getting so fatigued

You obviously skip thumbs day bro. What did you put inside, grease?

I pin test e in castor oil without heating through 29G in 40-50 seconds, you probably did something wrong or your thumbs are just weak
 
You obviously skip thumbs day bro. What did you put inside, grease?

I pin test e in castor oil without heating through 29G in 40-50 seconds, you probably did something wrong or your thumbs are just weak
maybe i grew a pussy idk
 
The only thing that comes to my mind is you used a doll insulin needle when you injected the needle went through the skin but just pushed the muscle tissue further inside and didn’t penetrate the tissue once oil injected (subq) pressure pushed the oil out
But again don’t see something like this happen.
Sometimes I inject and little bit of oil leak outside from the injection spot it might look a lot but it’s probably like 0.001 .. I usually wipe it with my finger and give it a sniff am I the only one who does that?
I do the same thing, but with my butthole.
 
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