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[typhr]

What’s up everyone! Just a 31 year old guy trying to get in shape and be healthy. I’m 6ft tall and at my lowest point in life was up to 350lbs w/ roughly 45% body fat. I had some bloods taken and my total T was 127. My dr put me on TRT and I got serious about my diet and gym routine. At 315lbs I added in glp3. So far Im down to 255lbs and have gained a decent amount of muscle. I’m excited to get another dexa to see how drastic the changes are.

I joined meso because I’m planning to run my own TRT protocol and this forum is a goldmine of great information. I’ve already payed for my first labs and plan to get them every 3 months at a minimum. If anyone has any suggestions I’m all ears. Thanks!

 

[hellerhiwater]

What’s up everyone! Just a 31 year old guy trying to get in shape and be healthy. I’m 6ft tall and at my lowest point in life was up to 350lbs w/ roughly 45% body fat. I had some bloods taken and my total T was 127. My dr put me on TRT and I got serious about my diet and gym routine. At 315lbs I added in glp3. So far Im down to 255lbs and have gained a decent amount of muscle. I’m excited to get another dexa to see how drastic the changes are.

I joined meso because I’m planning to run my own TRT protocol and this forum is a goldmine of great information. I’ve already payed for my first labs and plan to get them every 3 months at a minimum. If anyone has any suggestions I’m all ears. Thanks!

hello and welcome.

if you've got the money, its indispensable to dial in your e2 control and figure out exactly how you respond to the ais and levels.

this will be very difficult to accomplish by spacing it out every 3 months.

when i first started, my plan was to run for 3 weeks then get bloods and see where things were at, but then i panicked when my nips got itchy and took 0.25mg of adex 3 days before my labs. my e2 came back at like 4.

i learned that adex wipes my e2, HARD.

so i decided to let the test actually run its course and ignore the itchy nips, waited a few weeks and my e2 was sky high. but i didnt feel anything negative other than an insatiable libido (sounds fun, i know. but it was like an itch that cant be scratched so it wasnt the best thing ever)

finally i needed to wipe my e2 and start "from scratch" so i got bloods to confirm i was back down to reality, then started an aromasin regimen taking ~9-10mg every 4 days if needed, but every 7 minimum, and i got bloods twice confirming that this protocol keeps my e2 at the top of the ref range.

TL;DR general bloodwork every 3 months sounds great, but imo dialing in the estrogen control/monitoring is essential and with a la carte labs available, doing that part more frequently at the beginning is a good idea.

 

[typhr]

hello and welcome.

if you've got the money, its indispensable to dial in your e2 control and figure out exactly how you respond to the ais and levels.

this will be very difficult to accomplish by spacing it out every 3 months.

when i first started, my plan was to run for 3 weeks then get bloods and see where things were at, but then i panicked when my nips got itchy and took 0.25mg of adex 3 days before my labs. my e2 came back at like 4.

i learned that adex wipes my e2, HARD.

so i decided to let the test actually run its course and ignore the itchy nips, waited a few weeks and my e2 was sky high. but i didnt feel anything negative other than an insatiable libido (sounds fun, i know. but it was like an itch that cant be scratched so it wasnt the best thing ever)

finally i needed to wipe my e2 and start "from scratch" so i got bloods to confirm i was back down to reality, then started an aromasin regimen taking ~9-10mg every 4 days if needed, but every 7 minimum, and i got bloods twice confirming that this protocol keeps my e2 at the top of the ref range.

TL;DR general bloodwork every 3 months sounds great, but imo dialing in the estrogen control/monitoring is essential and with a la carte labs available, doing that part more frequently at the beginning is a good idea.

Yeah I may have to try and go once a month for the first couple months until I’m dialed in. I’ve been on TRT with my doc getting regular bloods for a while so I have a decent idea of what I need to keep myself in range but i still need to approach with caution. Especially considering some products I’ll be using will be UGL.

0.25 of adex 2x a week on the days I pin has worked pretty well at keeping my e2 in range. Im currently running 100mg Pharma test cyp 2x weekly and 250iu HCG 2x a week.

The HCG was the hard one to get dialed in. My doc initially had me using 500iu eod but my e2 went sky high. The 250iu 2x weekly seems to be the sweet spot where my balls stay full but I don’t get high estrogen.

I appreciate the reply and the advice!

 

[Billbo98]

Nice to meet you man. I would definitely recommend dialing in your E2 like suggested and don’t be afraid to use an AI. They’ve been fear mongered and bastardized just because of shitfluencers. TRT + GLP1 drug of choice + HGH if your a1c and BG isn't bad already and cut to 200s then lean bulk it. Good luck to you brother.

 

[typhr]

Nice to meet you man. I would definitely recommend dialing in your E2 like suggested and don’t be afraid to use an AI. They’ve been fear mongered and bastardized just because of shitfluencers. TRT + GLP1 drug of choice + HGH if your a1c and BG isn't bad already and cut to 200s then lean bulk it. Good luck to you brother.

Nice to meet you as well! I’m definitely not afraid to use an AI. If I need more I’ll be careful to introduce in small amounts.

I did fail to mention that I have also been using 2-3iu HGH before bed minimum of 3 hrs fasted. My fasting glucose hasn’t changed much. My A1C won’t lie though. I’m excited to see what my igf1 is looking like as well.

Thanks for the warm welcome!