IGF1-RL3

[sergio71]

Buona sera,volevo chiedervi se usavate IGF1-RL3 e se vi trovate bene e se inserito con testosterone enantato sia un buon approccio. Grazie mille.

 

[krvuxn]

If you already have a good amount of muscle it makes sense, but if you’re just starting out then I wouldn’t bother with LR3.

0.5mg was a good dose of LR3 for me. I did 2 weeks and saw some nice changes.

 

[sergio71]

Grazie mille altre risposte sareste molto gentili.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

LR3 is near useless. Don’t waste your time or money

 

[AlexDavis43]

If you already have a good amount of muscle it makes sense, but if you’re just starting out then I wouldn’t bother with LR3.

0.5mg was a good dose of LR3 for me. I did 2 weeks and saw some nice changes.

0.5 mg is a good dose in general.

 

[Banana Joe]

Precursor (if I ever get my injuries fixed...):
I am thinking of trying a Milos Sarcev style carb and insulin protocol, to regain some muscle. Likely with a dose of 8-1200mg of injectables. I can process carbs pretty well, can eat around 800g at 90kg, if my training is dialed in and won't gain weight. Will even then become hyperglycemic rather quickly if I am not careful. Never tried slin so far.

0.5 mg is a good dose in general.

Would you mind to elaborate on this? I see it sometimes (rarely) being mentioned to take .5mg but there seems to be little (at least anecdotal) evidence for it to then actually work.
While I am tempted to try LR3, for .5mg LR3 I can get around 15iu of China HGH. So I am thinking of just taking double/triple my "HRT" GH dose (currently around 3.5iu) and be done with it.
Pumps are nice, but if LR3's pumps doesn't translate to actual growth I don't wanna spend that much money on it.
Do you feel LR3+GH work complimentary, what about insulin sensitivity - does/could it work complimentary with Slin, Metformin or maybe even Retatrutide (1mg/week)?

Could LR3, Retatrutide and/or Metformin even replace the Slin in such protocol, or at least greatly reduce the need for it - while still being able to digest and shuttle large amounts of liquid carbs periworkout?

TIA

 

[AlexDavis43]

Precursor (if I ever get my injuries fixed...):
I am thinking of trying a Milos Sarcev style carb and insulin protocol, to regain some muscle. Likely with a dose of 8-1200mg of injectables. I can process carbs pretty well, can eat around 800g at 90kg, if my training is dialed in and won't gain weight. Will even then become hyperglycemic rather quickly if I am not careful. Never tried slin so far.


Would you mind to elaborate on this? I see it sometimes (rarely) being mentioned to take .5mg but there seems to be little (at least anecdotal) evidence for it to then actually work.
While I am tempted to try LR3, for .5mg LR3 I can get around 15iu of China HGH. So I am thinking of just taking double/triple my "HRT" GH dose (currently around 3.5iu) and be done with it.
Pumps are nice, but if LR3's pumps doesn't translate to actual growth I don't wanna spend that much money on it.
Do you feel LR3+GH work complimentary, what about insulin sensitivity - does/could it work complimentary with Slin, Metformin or maybe even Retatrutide (1mg/week)?

Could LR3, Retatrutide and/or Metformin even replace the Slin in such protocol, or at least greatly reduce the need for it - while still being able to digest and shuttle large amounts of liquid carbs periworkout?

TIA

Pumps are nice, but if LR3's pumps doesn't translate to actual growth I don't wanna spend that much money on it.

LR3 hasn't been tested in bodybuilders on gear tmk but this review covers some examples where it causes or doesn't cause muscle hypertrophy & the mechanisms

Fwiw I like the muscle fullness from 0.5 mg/d that I didn't get from 0.1-0.25 mg/d or GH at 10 IU

Whether it's worth the money is 100% up to you

 

[bossetti]

Buona sera,volevo chiedervi se usavate IGF1-RL3 e se vi trovate bene e se inserito con testosterone enantato sia un buon approccio. Grazie mille.

Secondo te bossetti e innocente?

 

[Banana Joe]

LR3 hasn't been tested in bodybuilders on gear tmk but this review covers some examples where it causes or doesn't cause muscle hypertrophy & the mechanisms

Fwiw I like the muscle fullness from 0.5 mg/d that I didn't get from 0.1-0.25 mg/d or GH at 10 IU

Whether it's worth the money is 100% up to you

Thanks. Will take some time to get through that paper.

Assuming I am gonna try LR3 - how much time should I give it to asses if it works for me, or not? 8 weeks, 12 weeks?
Asking to know how much it would cost me to give it a try.

What is your observations on its effects on insulin sensitivity? At such a "high" dose of .5mg

Do you actually insist on needing no less than .5mg?
I respond rather well to gear, and like to take the lowest effective dose - and even if I miss out on the last 20% of desired effect, but rather combine a few drugs - hoping to reduce side effects that way, but still getting a good anabolic outcome.
Could I get away with .25mg for such a case, or would you say it is total waste of money then?

 

[AlexDavis43]

Thanks. Will take some time to get through that paper.

Assuming I am gonna try LR3 - how much time should I give it to asses if it works for me, or not? 8 weeks, 12 weeks?
Asking to know how much it would cost me to give it a try.

What is your observations on its effects on insulin sensitivity? At such a "high" dose of .5mg

Do you actually insist on needing no less than .5mg?
I respond rather well to gear, and like to take the lowest effective dose - and even if I miss out on the last 20% of desired effect, but rather combine a few drugs - hoping to reduce side effects that way, but still getting a good anabolic outcome.
Could I get away with .25mg for such a case, or would you say it is total waste of money then?

You'll know much sooner than 8 weeks, more like a week or 2

0.5 mg is just what works for me -- I was gonna give up after trying 0.1 & 0.25 mg/d for a couple weeks but had a bunch left so ramped it to 0.5 mg

Never got any symptoms of hypo but maybe bc also running GH, many confounders

Probably unpopular opinion: if I only had room in my budget for one or the other, I'd pick LR3 over GH -- LR3 gives me the main thing I like from GH which is muscle fullness all day, seems more potent with LR3 too

 

[Banana Joe]

You'll know much sooner than 8 weeks, more like a week or 2

But will that be enough to assess anything else than just fullness? Like I said, I would not want to spend the money on fullness, if it doesn't net in some kind of actual growth. That is why I asked about a window 8-12 weeks. Not that you could surely evaluate on that, I know.

Never got any symptoms of hypo but maybe bc also running GH, many confounders

If I ever try LR3, I'd run with with a Milos Sarvec kind of carb protocol. I assume I would just need a bit less Slin, but would not risk going hypo at 2-300g of carbs periworkout.
Like mentioned, probably also with Metformin and maybe Reta. I am just trying the former for the first time and have ordered the latter.

Probably unpopular opinion: if I only had room in my budget for one or the other, I'd pick LR3 over GH -- LR3 gives me the main thing I like from GH which is muscle fullness all day, seems more potent with LR3 too

I take my GH mainly for (hopefully) permanent muscle gain and recovery. ATM 4iu, and I don't see myself going over 10iu for such a Slin blast protocol. Not sure if LR3 alone would be more beneficial in that case, pricewise GH wins anyway.