iFit Test Cyp + Deca Cycle

[Roger rabbit]

Not to barge in, but I keep seeing everyone say control estrogen before it gets bad, but no one here checks their blood pre cycle or mid cycle to even see what the dosages they are taking are affecting their estrogen.

@Thegreek, how do you know the gear is underdosed? You didn't get blood to show otherwise. So many factors to not get growth or symptoms of estrogen related gyno.

I would strongly recommend for everyone to start getting some blood and learn how the different compounds affect you, because taking the AI to just take is adding something to your body that may not be needed, and remember AI affect your lipids. If you don't need it, don't take it.

 

[Thegreek]

Not to barge in, but I keep seeing everyone say control estrogen before it gets bad, but no one here checks their blood pre cycle or mid cycle to even see what the dosages they are taking are affecting their estrogen.

@Thegreek, how do you know the gear is underdosed? You didn't get blood to show otherwise. So many factors to not get growth or symptoms of estrogen related gyno.

I would strongly recommend for everyone to start getting some blood and learn how the different compounds affect you, because taking the AI to just take is adding something to your body that may not be needed, and remember AI affect your lipids. If you don't need it, don't take it.

Barge in all you want. That's why I'm here. Lots of people with lots to offer. I know the importance of bloods but it's such a pain in the ass here and my Dr gave me some shit about it so I'm kinda stuck right now but I'm trying to figure something out. I've mentioned before in another thread that locally this community is even smaller so it's hard to find people to talk to. You're right I don't know if it's underdosed especially without blood work but that has now lead me to see about how the mast E helps control estrogen. Like I mentioned before if things change with the new lab or stay the same and I get bloods at the end I might have a good idea of what has been going on. It may not be the best but it's the best I got right now.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Do you have a quest or lab corps near by? You can always order the blood work online then drive to a lab corp. no need for your doctor.

 

[Thegreek]

I looked into that but from the info that I came across it sounded like that it wasn't available in New York. I didn't go much further because nothing fun is legal in NY.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Damn you are in New York.... yup that sucks. Heard many times they don't exist up there.

 

[Thegreek]

We have labcorp and quest they just won't let you request your own blood work.

 

[ddp7]

@SuperMaroid

tell me,exemestane proviron and some hcg could be a good recovery protocol after test cyp only? and its bad to the health run 100mg test cyp only ed for a year?

 

[ddp7]

week, no ed course

 

[SuperMaroid]

@SuperMaroid

tell me,exemestane proviron and some hcg could be a good recovery protocol after test cyp only? and its bad to the health run 100mg test cyp only ed for a year?

Do you blast and cruise? Or just running a year long cycle? Or TRT?

If I'm on my cruise I take:
250mg test cyp monday
250iu hcg tuesday and thursday
6.25mg aromasin ed

 

[ddp7]

Do you blast and cruise? Or just running a year long cycle? Or TRT?

If I'm on my cruise I take:
250mg test cyp monday
250iu hcg tuesday and thursday
6.25mg aromasin ed

whats the difference in practice terms?

250mg of testcyp are better than 150?in what sense?

 

[SuperMaroid]

whats the difference in practice terms?

250mg of testcyp are better than 150?in what sense?

I need to know why your cruising on 100mg. Is it doctors orders? Or because you want to?

 

[ddp7]

I need to know why your cruising on 100mg. Is it doctors orders? Or because you want to?

no doctor order,is bc I want.

but with perfect recovery dose is enough to me

 

[ddp7]

however I get the order,is very easy bc in my country the only choice is gel or caps

 

[SuperMaroid]

no doctor order,is bc I want.

but with perfect recovery dose is enough to me

however I get the order,is very easy bc in my country the only choice is gel or caps

For perfect recovery at 14 week cycle of only test is your best bet. It would look like:

250mg test monday and thursday
500iu hcg tuesday and friday
12.5mg aromasin ed
PCT nolva and clomid

Your can produce 100mg of test a week, whats the point of doing that. You will shut yourself down and he at natty levels. Really not a smart idea unless it was TRT.

What do you mean its only gel or caps? Testosterone is an injectable and Orals should be tabs.

 

[ddp7]

For perfect recovery at 14 week cycle of only test is your best bet. It would look like:

250mg test monday and thursday
500iu hcg tuesday and friday
12.5mg aromasin ed
PCT nolva and clomid

Your can produce 100mg of test a week, whats the point of doing that. You will shut yourself down and he at natty levels. Really not a smart idea unless it was TRT.

What do you mean its only gel or caps? Testosterone is an injectable and Orals should be tabs.

For perfect recovery at 14 week cycle of only test is your best bet. It would look like:

250mg test monday and thursday
500iu hcg tuesday and friday
12.5mg aromasin ed
PCT nolva and clomid

Your can produce 100mg of test a week, whats the point of doing that. You will shut yourself down and he at natty levels. Really not a smart idea unless it was TRT.

What do you mean its only gel or caps? Testosterone is an injectable and Orals should be tabs.

thanks brother, i just mean i can get an order with order to buy test gel or oral test,but dont like that stuff.

i can get too,an order that allowed foreigner buy,ie,importation.

about biological points,your right,is just i like 5x5 all the way,dont like weider style,so this is reason why I did reference to recovery.

 

[SuperMaroid]

thanks brother, i just mean i can get an order with order to buy test gel or oral test,but dont like that stuff.

i can get too,an order that allowed foreigner buy,ie,importation.

about biological points,your right,is just i like 5x5 all the way,dont like weider style,so this is reason why I did reference to recovery.

Get injectable test. And do a real cycle with 500mg for 14 weeks. Dont cruise for a year and mess up your body. Just make sure you follow the steps I gave you with HCG, AI and PCT and you will recover fine.

 

[ddp7]

Get injectable test. And do a real cycle with 500mg for 14 weeks. Dont cruise for a year and mess up your body. Just make sure you follow the steps I gave you with HCG, AI and PCT and you will recover fine.

Fine,ok no long term cycle;but one more thing,500mg week of test cyp will change my mood a lot?250mg will be a better choice?Thanks

 

[SuperMaroid]

Fine,ok no long term cycle;but one more thing,500mg week of test cyp will change my mood a lot?250mg will be a better choice?Thanks

Why would you want to do a cruising dose. I dont understand. Sounds like you need to do a lot more research before you begin.

What are your stats?

 

[Roger rabbit]

For perfect recovery at 14 week cycle of only test is your best bet. It would look like:

250mg test monday and thursday
500iu hcg tuesday and friday
12.5mg aromasin ed
PCT nolva and clomid

Your can produce 100mg of test a week, whats the point of doing that. You will shut yourself down and he at natty levels. Really not a smart idea unless it was TRT.

What do you mean its only gel or caps? Testosterone is an injectable and Orals should be tabs.

Why do you keep suggesting for everyone to take AI? To be honest this is sloppy. You don't know how his body reacts to testosterone and how it will aromitize anything. So what you stated isn't the perfect way. And 12.5mg everyday at that? On 500mg per week of test?

If you recommended that to me, my e2 would be crashed after the third day.

 

[Roger rabbit]

Fine,ok no long term cycle;but one more thing,500mg week of test cyp will change my mood a lot?250mg will be a better choice?Thanks

Here is the information we need my man.

1. How many cycles have you done?

2. Are you planning on getting ore cycle blood work? If not... you need to.

3. When on cycle DO NOT take any AI until about 3-4 weeks in, get blood work, see where your e2 is at. If you need the AI, take a small dosage, run that for 2 weeks and then get more blood and see how the AI affected your blood. Adjust accordingly based off your pre cycle blood work.

4. Get post cycle blood after pct to see if everything has returned to normal if not, then you need to continue pct

5. I am assuming this is your first or second cycle, but THIS is the correct way to do. If you want to cruise fine, but if you want to come off and recover, that's fine too.

But to listen to a protocol parroted off every forum is NOT the way to do. You need to be getting blood to see exactly what you put in your OWN body is reacting to whatever you put in.