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Did you send a vial of GH for testing? Because what you wrote doesn’t mean anything at all. Pure feelz and anecdotal evidence.
Ever did a blood test on hgh? No idea what you must expect when on gh?? Or ever tested on influence on blood sugar right after inject? You seem to be very naive if you have never tested these things...

When I was on real pharma hgh my blood serum hgh was at 34ng/ml. So I know how to compare and what to expect from hgh...
 
Ever did a blood test on hgh? No idea what you must expect when on gh?? Or ever tested on influence on blood sugar right after inject? You seem to be very naive if you have never tested these things...
The blood test is just a signal that it should be sent in for HPLC testing, not proof of anything. IGF levels can be low for many reasons other than hgh quality. It’s not 2010 anymore blood tests don’t mean shit except store credit from some vendors.
 
The blood test is just a signal that it should be sent in for HPLC testing, not proof of anything. IGF levels can be low for many reasons other than hgh quality. It’s not 2010 anymore blood tests don’t mean shit except store credit from some vendors.
You mix IGF level with immediate hgh blood serum! I was never talking about that. You have to read correctly.

But I can ask the other way around, is there anyone here who is satisfied with HYB hgh or even did an analysis at Janoshik?
 
You mix IGF level with immediate hgh blood serum! I was never talking about that. You have to read correctly.

But I can ask the other way around, is there anyone here who is satisfied with HYB hgh or even did an analysis at Janoshik?
How about you send a vial for testing and quit posting stupid shit. You are the one with doubts but zero proof of your accusations. As others have said your blood levels could be low for many reasons but your feelz aren’t proof of shit.
 
Do you think it is a good idea to spend 420usd for testing with a high risk of no refund from a pretty new supplier with no mature reputation?

I do not see any reason why hgh serum should be that low 3hrs after inject. Please tell me possible reasons!?
I did this test so many times with different vendors and always comparable results, ... and by the way it is a lil bit strange when after inject of 2iu nothing happens with your blood sugar, isn't it??
You seem to be a verry naive and uneducated person that cannot talk on a serious level without any insults..
 
Do you think it is a good idea to spend 420usd for testing with a high risk of no refund from a pretty new supplier with no mature reputation?

I do not see any reason why hgh serum should be that low 3hrs after inject. Please tell me possible reasons!?
I did this test so many times with different vendors and always comparable results, ... and by the way it is a lil bit strange when after inject of 2iu nothing happens with your blood sugar, isn't it??
You seem to be a verry naive and uneducated person that cannot talk on a serious level without any insults..

You will find that your bloodwork results have very little value here other than to spin up and worry new members who think your results mean the product they purchased is bunk. Until you post GH test results my education is still intact and yours is lacking.
 
Do you think it is a good idea to spend 420usd for testing with a high risk of no refund from a pretty new supplier with no mature reputation?

I do not see any reason why hgh serum should be that low 3hrs after inject. Please tell me possible reasons!?
I did this test so many times with different vendors and always comparable results, ... and by the way it is a lil bit strange when after inject of 2iu nothing happens with your blood sugar, isn't it??
You seem to be a verry naive and uneducated person that cannot talk on a serious level without any insults..
You're naive!

All you have to do is spend $10 at LabCorp for a serum GH test... that will be enough to show the ng/dl bullshit you're spewing.

Stick the remaining $410 under your mattress so you can save for college.

Edit: Can you post your serum GH lab result? How was the analysis measured? Post please. Or spend €15 at Le Lab Corpe or whatever, wherever in Europe and then come back and post it.
 
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You're naive!

All you have to do is spend $10 at LabCorp for a serum GH test... that will be enough to show the ng/dl bullshit you're spewing.

Stick the remaining $410 under your mattress so you can save for college.
So what does LabCorp test differently to my serum GH test?? I also tested serum hgh level. Maybe in Europe everything is different...
 
Do you think it is a good idea to spend 420usd for testing with a high risk of no refund from a pretty new supplier with no mature reputation?

I do not see any reason why hgh serum should be that low 3hrs after inject. Please tell me possible reasons!?
I did this test so many times with different vendors and always comparable results, ... and by the way it is a lil bit strange when after inject of 2iu nothing happens with your blood sugar, isn't it??
You seem to be a verry naive and uneducated person that cannot talk on a serious level without any insults..
Yep keep calling the people who advocate third party testing naive while you remain in the dark about your situation because you don’t want to pay for testing.
 
Yep keep calling the people who advocate third party testing naive while you remain in the dark about your situation because you don’t want to pay for testing.
I Agree and never denied analyzing a vial is best thing to trust. But i do not understand this uncritical behaviour on my (in my opinion) valid aspects to question a hgh product. Real hgh definitely has influence on serum hgh and blood sugar, and this product has the lowest influence on these I have ever had.
 
You're naive!

All you have to do is spend $10 at LabCorp for a serum GH test... that will be enough to show the ng/dl bullshit you're spewing.

Stick the remaining $410 under your mattress so you can save for college.

Edit: Can you post your serum GH lab result? How was the analysis measured? Post please. Or spend €15 at Le Lab Corpe or whatever, wherever in Europe and then come back and post it.
Results 3hrs after 10iu, in the morning with empty stomach. Measurement method was CLIA
 

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Results 3hrs after 10iu, in the morning with empty stomach. Measurement method was CLIA
It's definitely low but wouldn't say it's catastrophically low.
I do agree serum testing is a very valid way of getting an indication of quality.

My serum level was 15.
(Injected sub q approx 2hrs prior to blood drawn)

I would expect to be over 20 based on prior testing with pharma and Tracey's stuff.
 
Results 3hrs after 10iu, in the morning with empty stomach. Measurement method was CLIA
That's is bro. Thank you!
10ng/ml serum blood result after 3 hrs... yes, I think you're correct, it's a low response.

Although the serum GH result you posted is a good indicator, it's not as definitive as a Jano test. But, it brings credibility to what you're suggesting.

At this point, it would be prudent for anyone who bought 24iU kits from HYB to consider sending a vial to Jano for confirmation.

The problem is, this vendor has a shit testing credit. So... BUYER BEWARE!
 
It's definitely low but wouldn't say it's catastrophically low.
I do agree serum testing is a very valid way of getting an indication of quality.

My serum level was 15.
(Injected sub q approx 2hrs prior to blood drawn)

I would expect to be over 20 based on prior testing with pharma and Tracey's stuff.
You mean quality not quantity?
 
That's is bro. Thank you!
10ng/ml serum blood result after 3 hrs... yes, I think you're correct, it's a low response.

Although the serum GH result you posted is a good indicator, it's not as definitive as a Jano test. But, it brings credibility to what you're suggesting.

At this point, it would be prudent for anyone who bought 24iU kits from HYB to consider sending a vial to Jano for confirmation.

The problem is, this vendor has a shit testing credit. So... BUYER BEWARE!
Thank you for answering in good manners this time. But 410 dollars will not pay back my M.Sc. from then...

Hope @Yura(HYB) will participate in this discussion and find a solution to gain reputation and trust again.
 
Thank you for answering in good manners this time. But 410 dollars will not pay back my M.Sc. from then...

Hope @Yura(HYB) will participate in this discussion and find a solution to gain reputation and trust again.
The solution is you pay for testing and if the results are unfavorable HYB refunds you the cost of the GH (and maybe the testing cost). But if the results are favorable you get nothing. HYB (nor any other source) will refund you based on only bloodwork. I hope you know this already.
 
Thank you for answering in good manners this time. But 410 dollars will not pay back my M.Sc. from then...

Hope @Yura(HYB) will participate in this discussion and find a solution to gain reputation and trust again.
Its not about "manners," but I can appreciate your sentiment. If I offended you, I do apologize. You also should look back at what you've said to the other member.

Anyway, if we're going to hold the sources accountable, sometimes we need to have irrefutable proof. In this case, you provided a serum GH test, and that's enough to raise concerns for other potential buyers. The next step—to obtain refunds and have the product completely "flagged"—HPLC testing through Jano.

If anyone wants to test the 24iU kits, maybe we can get a few together to pay as a group. I'll pitch-in too, even though I don't have any hGH from this vendor.

edit: By the way, there are other sources in the underground who sell high quality, regularly tested hGH internationally. Those looking for a more reputable and reliable hGH source should look through, and fully research, the underground. Veteran members will not make recommendations... everyone has to make their own decisions. But, there are great hGH sources out there.
 
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