How long should I wait?

[Flounder]

you could get blood drawn 48 hours after the first pin of test e ever in your life and it should come back 10x, it just doesn't stay there very long until you've had more injections and it stabilizes, so getting bloods done after a few weeks is recommended as its slightly more accurate. i think 7x is a little under dosed personally

Please stop sharing your "wisdom" since you have no idea what you are talking about. You are so wrong with what you just said, so stop spreading misinformation that inexperienced users may believe. Try looking on steroidplot website for some real information. Sorry to keep riding your ass, but you need to stop talking about things you have no knowledge of.

 

[The Roman]

Please stop sharing your "wisdom" since you have no idea what you are talking about. You are so wrong with what you just said, so stop spreading misinformation that inexperienced users may believe. Try looking on steroidplot website for some real information. Sorry to keep riding your ass, but you need to stop talking about things you have no knowledge of.

thats a very useful site thanks for sharing this looks cool

 

[Millard]

you could get blood drawn 48 hours after the first pin of test e ever in your life and it should come back 10x

You misquoted Dr. Scally by falsely added extra text with alleged results from various UGLs. Why? (I removed the added text to avoid misleading readers.)

Where did the following text come from? It's certainly not something Dr. Scally wrote in his original post!

6 weeks on 110mg pharm grade TT 1279
6 months on 100mg pharm grade TT 973
6 weeks 500mg test e (max growth) TT 3753
8 weeks back on TRT (superior test e) TT 1113
6 weeks 500mg (superior test e) TT 4560
8 weeks TRT (astro test c) TT 1093

 

[The Roman]

I accidentally misquoted, two posts got mashed together. but those are in fact Scallys words

 

[Millard]

I accidentally misquoted, two posts got mashed together. but those are in fact Scallys words

Ok, thanks.

 

[Dr JIM]

So based on all of the comments above................
one should wait about 3 weeks after first pin ( Cyp or E) before blood test and Expect to see 7x - 10x a peak in Test score.................
RIGHT ??

I'm wondering have you even read this thread, or are you unaware the half lives of T-c and T-p are different!

That of T-c OR T-e being TWICE as long as T-p, at ONE WEEK vs 2-3 DAYS respectively.

Thus the STEADY STATE waiting interval for EITHER T-c OR T-e is 5-6 WEEKS while that of T-p is 2-3 WEEKS.

Jim

 

[The Roman]

I'm wondering have you even read this thread, or are you unaware the half lives of T-c and T-p are different!

That of T-c OR T-e being TWICE as long as T-p, at ONE WEEK vs 2-3 DAYS respectively.

Thus the STEADY STATE waiting interval for EITHER T-c OR T-e is 5-6 WEEKS while that of T-p is 2-3 WEEKS.

Jim

reading is hard

 

[Dr JIM]

reading is hard

So is LEARNING for many who prance onto Meso, believing others are here awaiting the requests from Noobs to be spoon fed!

It's unfortunate really bc these same lazy "members" are often the first to request assistance or intercession on behalf of Meso vets.

Yet in many instances the UGL responsible for "scamming" them
had already been vetted with multiple warnings to STAY AWAY.

All that was required was a little reading or an effort to educate oneself!

Bottom line; ya "reap what you sow"

Jim

 

[Bigup7]

I understand, i read the comments.
Just made a general statement since OP was referencing tesp-P and C

I am very aware Test-E is the longer Ester and also d difference in half life cycles.
I dont mind learning and I dont mind asking questions.
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days

Thanks again, its always cool to learn from your mistakes or better some1 else's.

 

[Dr JIM]

you could get blood drawn 48 hours after the first pin of test e ever in your life and it should come back 10x, it just doesn't stay there very long until you've had more injections and it stabilizes, so getting bloods done after a few weeks is recommended as its slightly more accurate

Could one obtain peak levels after the first PIN?

Sure but if you look at that data in the literature, and there is a considerable amount, those values are ALL OVER THE PLACE and simply do NOT correlate with the dosage used with any degree of certainly.

It doesn't stay where very long?

The duration of a peak level plateau bears little correlation with when it was obtained relative to an injection schedule; such as after the first or fifth dose.

Slightly more accurate!

Now that's just NOT true.

Bc the fact is that's the very reason PEAK value lab studies are obtained AFTER Steady State are achieved. Again once 5-6 half lives of the AAS used has passed the level most certainly should CORRELATE with 10X the dose used (+ or -) 10-20%.

 

[Burrr]

a visual aid for you
http://steroidplot.com/share/?l=12&...terone&c0_f=cypionate&c0_s=3&c0_fr=1&c0_to=12

 

[Dr JIM]

Congrats Burr your posts are so absolutely worthless your one of the few to make it to "Dr Jim's" ignore list!

Oh but wait a minute who else is on that list?

Why what a surprise it consists almost exclusively of your UGL friends such as Northern Nut, Whacks Himself Off, No's Nothing, Italian Meathead! Your a rocking "bro" LMAO!

 

[Burrr]

Fuck off Jimmy