High Responder: T >15ng/dL, E2 90, Hct 51.8% | Crashing on Taper | Need Protocol Advice

What was your blasting mg?

Would you be willing to do the following tests on the same day?
- cystain c
- creatinine
- urine ACR

If you do we can plug it into a proper kidney calculator and see what's going on.

What's your training look like? Are you doing the main compound movements?
Drifted away from some compounds and am pretty much following Milo Wolf Myoadapt app. I sure would be happy to do the test on the same day and share. btw I am still waiting (next few days) for results of:
  • IGF-1 (Somatomedin C)
  • Zinc
  • Homocysteine
  • Free Testosterone
  • SHBG
 
Drifted away from some compounds and am pretty much following Milo Wolf Myoadapt app. I sure would be happy to do the test on the same day and share. btw I am still waiting (next few days) for results of:
  • IGF-1 (Somatomedin C)
  • Zinc
  • Homocysteine
  • Free Testosterone
  • SHBG
First ever dose was 250mg/week for 10 weeks. After a 2-month break, I blasted 500mg Test/500mg Deca for 5 weeks, then cruise/and nothing for 6 months then followed by a 6-week run of 250mg Test, 200mg Primo, and 10mg Anavar.and now pretty much 187mg test C for last 6 months.
 
First ever dose was 250mg/week for 10 weeks. After a 2-month break, I blasted 500mg Test/500mg Deca for 5 weeks, then cruise/and nothing for 6 months then followed by a 6-week run of 250mg Test, 200mg Primo, and 10mg Anavar.and now pretty much 187mg test C for last 6 months.
In 5 weeks you didn't even reach peak concentration.

2 month break was only a few weeks off because the compounds were still active after 6 weeks. No wonder why you feel crappy.

You need to fix up your vitamin D3 and folate.

Learn how to train and eat. Are you taking any ancillaries? Like blood pressure meds etc
 
I recommend reading through some workout logs:

Thread 'My journey from permabulk to get jacked'

Thread 'Daily Log to 2019 Show Season'

Thread 'Long Off-Season to Classic D Class Weight Cap'

There are others but these are the ones I remember.
 
In 5 weeks you didn't even reach peak concentration.

2 month break was only a few weeks off because the compounds were still active after 6 weeks. No wonder why you feel crappy.

You need to fix up your vitamin D3 and folate.

Learn how to train and eat. Are you taking any ancillaries? Like blood pressure meds etc

You can tell I don’t really know where to start in terms of getting the right information. Apart from omega-3, magnesium, creatine and ashwagandha, I’ve only just started taking vitamin D. I’m not taking anything for blood pressure.
 
You can tell I don’t really know where to start in terms of getting the right information. Apart from omega-3, magnesium, creatine and ashwagandha, I’ve only just started taking vitamin D. I’m not taking anything for blood pressure.
Telmisartan is the gold standard for kidney protection .

There is lots of good info here.

You only need 125-150mg per week and a good training program like starting strength.

You can build a good base of strength first then the steroids will work better.

There is a book called "the barbell prescription" by Mark Rippetoe. It's programming for older gentleman.
 
I recommend reading through some workout logs:

Thread 'My journey from permabulk to get jacked'

Thread 'Daily Log to 2019 Show Season'

Thread 'Long Off-Season to Classic D Class Weight Cap'

There are others but these are the ones I remember.
Fantastic.
 
Telmisartan is the gold standard for kidney protection .

There is lots of good info here.

You only need 125-150mg per week and a good training program like starting strength.

You can build a good base of strength first then the steroids will work better.

There is a book called "the barbell prescription" by Mark Rippetoe. It's programming for older gentleman.

Telmisartan is the gold standard for kidney protection .

There is lots of good info here.

You only need 125-150mg per week and a good training program like starting strength.

You can build a good base of strength first then the steroids will work better.

There is a book called "the barbell prescription" by Mark Rippetoe. It's programming for older gentleman.
Thanks — really appreciate it. Great forum, and people like you make it easy for newcomers like me.
 
I appreciate the input, and I agree. Just to clarify: I started at a low 2.50 ng/mL baseline, which led to 250mg/week for 10 weeks. After a 2-month break, I blasted 500mg Test/500mg Deca for 5 weeks, followed by a 6-week run of 250mg Test, 200mg Primo, and 10mg Anavar.

I’m chasing an athletic build, not a bodybuilder's stage weight. My training is focused on circuits and resistance, and I’ll be the first to admit my diet discipline hasn't been 100% 'ripped' status yet.

The bottom line: I want to move to a standard TRT dose without the crash. What’s the move? Is 100–120mg cold turkey the right call, or is there a way to do it while being able to get some gains?
I'd guess 19-20. No vascularity, no visible abs or striations anywhere really. I'm not sure where you started but you definitely don't have much to show for someone who has been "blasting and cruising" for 2 years. Stay at TRT until you get your training and diet figured out as something is clearly off there. If I saw you in the gym I would never guess you were on anything.

You're only screwing yourself harder with PEDs. The trade off is supposed to be that you get some bad health markers in exchange for muscularity and looking ripped. You seem to not be getting the reward portion of the deal.
 
I appreciate the input, and I agree. Just to clarify: I started at a low 2.50 ng/mL baseline, which led to 250mg/week for 10 weeks. After a 2-month break, I blasted 500mg Test/500mg Deca for 5 weeks, followed by a 6-week run of 250mg Test, 200mg Primo, and 10mg Anavar.

I’m chasing an athletic build, not a bodybuilder's stage weight. My training is focused on circuits and resistance, and I’ll be the first to admit my diet discipline hasn't been 100% 'ripped' status yet.

The bottom line: I want to move to a standard TRT dose without the crash. What’s the move? Is 100–120mg cold turkey the right call, or is there a way to do it while being able to get some gains?
You're gonna have to get strong to get big bro.

You're gonna have to practise explosive movements like the power clean to maintain Type 2 fibres. They atrophy with age. You're gonna have to lift heavy weights with compound movements.

All these things hurt and are hard. Doing circuits ain't gonna grow any muscle. Unless you're one of those guys who fart on steroids and grow muscle.

If you want to do yoga or whatever just stay on TRT. Steroids will actually make your performance worse.
 

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