Hi, checking in have questions.

[x11]

Started lifting by accident really. Was doing therapy after a knee op and got bored with exercises. Some PL dudes started training in the gym and I was impressed.

Learned the basic lifts and have kept going, stats on 1rm;

bench 120kg
Squat 120kg for 4 reps, haven't tried max
DL 120kg
Overhead press 70kg

One leg is slowly shrinking due to OP. The lifting has halted the shrinkage and actually reduced pain, I ditched painkillers since lifting.

I am researching what I think tes might do to target leg muscle wastage. I am early 50's and tbh feel entitled to use tes if it works cos why the hell not. But that is for future.

I think I have 5 years left if improvement and then its just slowing down body decay until death.

Have just started a Layne Norton PL program downloaded from net.

Feel free to scrutinise my thinking/plan.

 

[RodgerThat]

Started lifting by accident really. Was doing therapy after a knee op and got bored with exercises. Some PL dudes started training in the gym and I was impressed.

Learned the basic lifts and have kept going, stats on 1rm;

bench 120kg
Squat 120kg for 4 reps, haven't tried max
DL 120kg
Overhead press 70kg

One leg is slowly shrinking due to OP. The lifting has halted the shrinkage and actually reduced pain, I ditched painkillers since lifting.

I am researching what I think tes might do to target leg muscle wastage. I am early 50's and tbh feel entitled to use tes if it works cos why the hell not. But that is for future.

I think I have 5 years left if improvement and then its just slowing down body decay until death.

Have just started a Layne Norton PL program downloaded from net.

Feel free to scrutinise my thinking/plan.

There isn't really a plan or thinking here to be scrutinised just facts, what are you looking for us to contribute with? Gotta ask a question or propose something for us to have an opinion.

 

[x11]

Gotcha, prolly more of a current status post. Here is a specific question.

Pointing feet and knees out in deadlift and width of stance and grip. Watched some clips but they were not clear. How much angle, conventional DL.

Also my grip fails after few reps at max DL, straps good or improve grip strength?

Gonna get to 4 plates (180kg, 396lbs) on DL this year, no compromise.

 

[RodgerThat]

Gotcha, prolly more of a current status post. Here is a specific question.

Pointing feet and knees out in deadlift and width of stance and grip. Watched some clips but they were not clear. How much angle, conventional DL.

Also my grip fails after few reps at max DL, straps good or improve grip strength?

Gonna get to 4 plates (180kg, 396lbs) on DL this year, no compromise.

If you're pulling conventional this is the best way to set up your feet for a beginner. You want to use maximal power so utilize your body mechanics and from a stand still jump as high as your can 3x in a row. Look how your feet are when you jump, how far apart are they? Are they ducked out slightly or straight forward? I'd bet they are slightly ducked out 2-10 degrees and directly under or slightly wider then your hips. From there you can fine tune what works best for you.

For the grip train double over hand until your grip fails you then either mixed grip or hook grip, mixed is easier to learn but hook is more solid and allows for easier lay contraction if you can get through the thumb pain. I personally pull hook grip for my heavy sets and when my thumbs feel like Swiss cheese I use straps after but never use straps if your body can't actually hold that weight. Got grip is linked to your brain and if it's failing your body tells you to let go to avoid injury, if you have straps on your body isn't getting that initial signal that the weight is possibly too much for your body to handle.

 

[x11]

Wow, thanks. I have never seen a hook grip. Will try it.

 

[x11]

What are the issues when PL's say the hips should not go up too fast in a deadlift, I thought that how you get the bar travelling up??

Something about shoulders should go up faster than hips, they are connected by your spine, how can they travel at different speeds??

 

[RodgerThat]

What are the issues when PL's say the hips should not go up too fast in a deadlift, I thought that how you get the bar travelling up??

Something about shoulders should go up faster than hips, they are connected by your spine, how can they travel at different speeds??

If your hips shoot up before your shoulders begin to raise you'll have a more horizontal plain in your back and be using more lumbar strength to stand up as opposed to hamstring strength which is significantly stronger, your back should start on roughly a 45 degree plain (this is different person to person due to femur and torso length but give or take) then you should be straightening out from that point once the pull begins. Imagine pushing the floor away instead of lifting the bar off of the floor this is good for trying to prevent early hip rise

 

[Gobuckeyes0122]

If you're pulling conventional this is the best way to set up your feet for a beginner. You want to use maximal power so utilize your body mechanics and from a stand still jump as high as your can 3x in a row. Look how your feet are when you jump, how far apart are they? Are they ducked out slightly or straight forward? I'd bet they are slightly ducked out 2-10 degrees and directly under or slightly wider then your hips. From there you can fine tune what works best for you.

For the grip train double over hand until your grip fails you then either mixed grip or hook grip, mixed is easier to learn but hook is more solid and allows for easier lay contraction if you can get through the thumb pain. I personally pull hook grip for my heavy sets and when my thumbs feel like Swiss cheese I use straps after but never use straps if your body can't actually hold that weight. Got grip is linked to your brain and if it's failing your body tells you to let go to avoid injury, if you have straps on your body isn't getting that initial signal that the weight is possibly too much for your body to handle.

I tried hook grip Friday and couldn't do it. It's hurts like a fucker lol

 

[RodgerThat]

I tried hook grip Friday and couldn't do it. It's hurts like a fucker lol

It ain't for everyone but it is the most solid hold of you can tolerate the pain of 600lbs pressing down on your thumbs

 

[jaymaximus]

OP, if you wanna shoot some videos you might get more help with form. You can post here or PM a few folks. If you need any help getting a video up, let us know.

 

[x11]

Rest day today then training tomorrow morning. Will take a camera. Did my max DL in a session yesterday so wasn't planning DL again so soon. Be great to get comment tho. If not too sore will do it. Thanks.