Mrhairyman
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Just curious, how many of us 40 + y/o are running HGH.
If so, at what dose and for how long ?
If so, at what dose and for how long ?
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HGH 40 +
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Rbvasques
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not quite 40 yet, 4 more years to go.
4IU during cutting, am/pm split
6IU bulking before bed
4IU during cutting, am/pm split
6IU bulking before bed
tk_421
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46. Been doing 2-3IU/day in AM for a few months. I don't eat til 12 or 2 each weekday, so it hits during fasted cardio/workouts. I do 5 days on/2 off.
4IUs+ gave me hand and feet swelling. 3IU/day in AM seems to work best.
Goal is fat-loss and protecting against muscle wasting whilst cutting and using light Reta (0.8mg/week -- any more and I cannot eat much at all). Last bloodwork had my IGF at 300+ a day after dosing 3IUs.
Results: Have lost about 5-10lbs of fat. I reckon if I stopped the HGH and finished with a diuretic for a week a bunch of water would come out also.
Also: 200mg/week T Cyp
4IUs+ gave me hand and feet swelling. 3IU/day in AM seems to work best.
Goal is fat-loss and protecting against muscle wasting whilst cutting and using light Reta (0.8mg/week -- any more and I cannot eat much at all). Last bloodwork had my IGF at 300+ a day after dosing 3IUs.
Results: Have lost about 5-10lbs of fat. I reckon if I stopped the HGH and finished with a diuretic for a week a bunch of water would come out also.
Also: 200mg/week T Cyp
51. Ran 2-3 IU daily for a few months when in a weight loss phase. It was great, no side effects that I could notice, and the weight came off faster in what effectively turned into a muscle-gaining recomp. I can't swear it didn't raise my RHR a little, but Reta had already done that so much the HGH contribution didn't even register.
Ateam2023
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50+ using hgh for @3 ish years currently @5 ius daily,,
OldGHGuy
Member
50+ using 2.4 ius daily, 5/2, subq, PM currently. On and off (mostly on) for years. Tried various protocols and none seem to stand out so I stay with this protocol, although AM/PM split does seem to aid fat loss a little more (I just don't like being sleepy all day).
IGF-1 of 395 on a baseline of 263 per latest test results.
IGF-1 of 395 on a baseline of 263 per latest test results.
Currently using 8iu Serostim daily. Along with Primo, Mast and Test. Also currently at 1mg of Reta per week and dieting hard. Best results I have ever had. Been doing this for 3 months and will continue for at least 2 more. Will go up to 2mg of Reta and probably 10iu of Serostim. Only side is some pretty good lethargy from the Serostim, but Modafinil takes care of that when I need it.
RockyP
Member
Mid 40's - currently 4 iu at bedtime, will likely add 2 iu in the AM. Currently in fat loss phase. Highly recommend HGH though the mantra of "run as much as you can afford" should also come with the caveat of what you can tolerate. Watch that fasting blood sugar as you titrate up.
GH is one thing that the more is better saying definitely applies to. Things just get so much better as the dose goes up, especially from 6iu upward. Reta is great for keeping BG in check.
Do you not get the water retention / carpal tunnel sides? Or do you manage those with something else?
RockyP
Member
If found that those come mostly when initiating it or increasing dosage. I had bad CTS when I first started omnitrope 1.5 IU. Went away and only came back slightly when I increased the dosage but now gone. I do think that would change as the dosages got higher (in terms of the sides sticking around longer).
RockyP
Member
Absolutely. I use Tirz but am still on a low dosage. Once I stabilize on the GLP I will start ramping the GH to see how much I can tolerate while keeping sugars and other sides in check.
It’s funny when I was blasting in my 20’s all the vets told me not to waste time / money on GH. Now in my 40’s i find it’s the opposite. We can use minimal gear but we need all the GH we can get.
I can start right off at 4iu of Serostim and not get any sides. When I increase to 6iu I will get slight water retention that goes away within a week, then when I increase after that nothing for sides. I only get a bit of lethargy with it at times. I take my full dose before bed. I eat very clean though so I think that has a lot to do with it.
GH is the one thing that will change how your body looks like nothing else. Especially when the doses get up around 8-10iu or more.
RockyP
Member
+1
Clean diet, GLP-1 / berberine / plenty of LISS for insulin sensitivity, and adequate hydration / electrolyte balance are key in avoiding the water retention associated with HGH use. And of course, genetics, but can’t do much about that…
If you slam HGH and have a shit diet you will look and feel terrible.
RockyP
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I’d agree though those dosages take time to acclimate / build up to and often do come with some side effects whether it be CTS / water retention, insulin resistance, lethargy, etc.
Also, I believe it was readalot who posted an article studying the impact of supraphysiological HGH doses, and 0.03 mg / kg was the upper limit where cardiac changes did not occur. That translates into 9 iu a day for a 100 kg person. So if you’re under 220 lbs and taking more than 9 iu daily you’re playing with fire in that regard.
Chase Irons likes to talk about how he had a cardiac MRI after his 18 iu / day Serostim experiment and per his report there were no changes. I’d like to see a repeat study in 5-10 years along with an echocardiogram. It reminds me of the man who jumped from a 100 story building and when he got past the 30th floor he yelled out “so far so good!”
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