Helion Labs (Canadian Domestic)

[atruse]

“Syn and Genetec went downhill fast” any proof for that claim or are you just another ignorant meat head spouting off dog shit. I use several sources and Syn is one of my go to brands and I hear nothing but good things about Genetec. You are a complete fucking nobody trash talking brands that have been around for 10+ years…give your head a shake.

Do you bozos have any clue about raw production? Do you have any fucking clue how many APIs India produces for Fortune 500 pharmaceutical companies? The ignorance and incompetence of many members here is astounding.

I can’t speak for every other “bozo” here

But I think it goes without saying that the industry is adjusting in real time, and as an educated customer base, we have every right to approach changes to products with hesitation.
The reason I switched off syn after I heard this from the rep, wasn’t that I didn’t think the raws were of high enough quality, but rather I didn’t want to be the Guinea pig before I had seen reports/tests or read some anecdotal experiences with the new brew to give me back confidence.

Injecting these compounds from black market underground labs is already sketchy enough, it took me months to build the confidence to move forward with Syn in the first place, and to this day they have been the only UGL I have ever injected from, and have nothing but good things to say.

But this doesn’t mean I will blindly follow them off a cliff into a new recipe experiment.

The customer base is to educated these days, it’s not the old days anymore.
We will start purchasing from UGLs who provide us with the most transparency and testing, and the newer smaller labs treat us like valued customers, not whiney bitches like the older big labs.

So though I agree with your sentiment and have heard from other highly intelligent and experienced home brewers that India raws are just as or even better then china, but I will still approach with the same caution I did originally

If my favourite butcher started to buy his cows from a new farm, I would do the same thing before I bbq’d up a new strip loin!

 

[atruse]

This guy's mid tren cycle for sure lol

I’m also mid tren cycle - no excuses lol

 

[atruse]

ETA 2 weeks for Test C to arrive depending if it makes it through customs.

Anyways, back to @helionlabs specific talks

Is there any anticipated price increases with the new raws coming in?

Thanks

 

[JG91]

I can’t speak for every other “bozo” here

But I think it goes without saying that the industry is adjusting in real time, and as an educated customer base, we have every right to approach changes to products with hesitation.
The reason I switched off syn after I heard this from the rep, wasn’t that I didn’t think the raws were of high enough quality, but rather I didn’t want to be the Guinea pig before I had seen reports/tests or read some anecdotal experiences with the new brew to give me back confidence.

Injecting these compounds from black market underground labs is already sketchy enough, it took me months to build the confidence to move forward with Syn in the first place, and to this day they have been the only UGL I have ever injected from, and have nothing but good things to say.

But this doesn’t mean I will blindly follow them off a cliff into a new recipe experiment.

The customer base is to educated these days, it’s not the old days anymore.
We will start purchasing from UGLs who provide us with the most transparency and testing, and the newer smaller labs treat us like valued customers, not whiney bitches like the older big labs.

So though I agree with your sentiment and have heard from other highly intelligent and experienced home brewers that India raws are just as or even better then china, but I will still approach with the same caution I did originally

If my favourite butcher started to buy his cows from a new farm, I would do the same thing before I bbq’d up a new strip

I’d like to know how growth is looking for the legacy Canadian UGLs. New labs are posting testing and offering to pay back jano costs if customers send samples. The old school labs are not adjusting to the new expectations.

 

[atruse]

I’d like to know how growth is looking for the legacy Canadian UGLs. New labs are posting testing and offering to pay back jano costs if customers send samples. The old school labs are not adjusting to the new expectations.

Yah, this is not something exclusive to the AAS market, but all markets.
Consumer base is evolving, and customers are more demanding then ever.

This market is just slower because it’s an illegal market lol

But we’re seeing it evolve nonetheless.

 

[JG91]

Yah, this is not something exclusive to the AAS market, but all markets.
Consumer base is evolving, and customers are more demanding then ever.

This market is just slower because it’s an illegal market lol

But we’re seeing it evolve nonetheless.

I’d like to see more Canadians posting jano results. You see it more in the international and American threads. But we passive canucks just take everyone at their word.

I have some mast e and primo from two different labs (not helion) that I just got. I think I’ll get them tested. 1) because I should given global market but 2) we just need to see more testing.

 

[helionlabs]

Anyways, back to @helionlabs specific talks

Is there any anticipated price increases with the new raws coming in?

Thanks

No

 

[FortyFiveLbs]

This guy's mid tren cycle for sure lol

Nah I’d bet that he just doesn’t know how to mitigate E2. Probably frequents CJM too.

 

[atruse]

@helionlabs do you know when Trest ace will be back in stock?

 

[helionlabs]

@helionlabs do you know when Trest ace will be back in stock?

Raws on hand. Just need to find time to brew it.

 

[verb]

Raws on hand. Just need to find time to brew it.

Pls brew yk11 first

 

[thejoker]

Well can’t say I’m surprised to see the same recycled zingers:

“he must be from CJM,” “must be on Tren,” “doesn’t have his E2 under control.”

Do you guys ever come up with anything original? It’s amusing that not one person actually addressed the questions asked…just the usual predictable, worn-out meathead comebacks…

Maybe take a moment to reflect on how ridiculous it sounds to insinuate that highly regarded Canadian brands (Syn and Genetec) suddenly become as @Axxium stated: “going down hill fast” because they’re being transparent about supplementing their out of stock Chinese sources with raws from India. Transparency and adaptation to global supply issues should be appreciated, not mocked by imbeciles who have zero understanding of this industry.

 

[justtrtbro]

“Syn and Genetec went downhill fast” any proof for that claim or are you just another ignorant meat head spouting off dog shit. I use several sources and Syn is one of my go to brands and I hear nothing but good things about Genetec. You are a complete fucking nobody trash talking brands that have been around for 10+ years…give your head a shake.

Do you bozos have any clue about raw production? Do you have any fucking clue how many APIs India produces for Fortune 500 pharmaceutical companies? The ignorance and incompetence of many members here is astounding.

I just thought it was an overreaction so I made a joke about being on a tren cycle.

I don't think anyone gives a fuck where the raws come from. Everyone's still buyin

 

[thejoker]

I just thought it was an overreaction so I made a joke about being on a tren cycle.

I don't think anyone gives a fuck where the raws come from. Everyone's still buyin

You’re right I was extra pissy that day it seems. I’ve been around the UGL world for a long time and I appreciate reading constructive reviews. But when members start trash-talking reputable and respected brands with zero evidence trying to stir up drama, I like to call that out.

 

[justtrtbro]

You’re right I was extra pissy that day it seems. I’ve been around the UGL world for a long time and I appreciate reading constructive reviews. But when members start trash-talking reputable and respected brands with zero evidence trying to stir up drama, I like to call that out.

I've never heard a bad thing about either brand.


And only heard great things about Helion, keep at it lads!

 

[Unclejuice]

I’d like to see more Canadians posting jano results. You see it more in the international and American threads. But we passive canucks just take everyone at their word.

I have some mast e and primo from two different labs (not helion) that I just got. I think I’ll get them tested. 1) because I should given global market but 2) we just need to see more testing.

One hundred percent passive, or guys made an order that arrived at their door step and now worship the source as God.

 

[shanesheenie]

Any ETA on injectable YK-11? Interested. Also curious whats the mg/ml going to be for it?

 

[verb]

Any ETA on injectable YK-11? Interested. Also curious whats the mg/ml going to be for it?

They said likely 60mg/ml

 

[helionlabs]

They said likely 60mg/ml

We will do that.

Any ETA on injectable YK-11? Interested. Also curious whats the mg/ml going to be for it?

Finishing Enclom and Asin today. Going to start working on injectables tomorrow.

 

[MaxLord]

Awesome glad to hear! Looking forward to the yk-11! Just want to say really loving the test cyp! Not as much bloating as test enanthate. And the new pills are very good! Dont shatter and easy enough to break in half. I really like the arimidex, it feels stronger than aromasin but doesnt last as long. Thank you Helion Labs!