Heavy dumbbells shoulder presses

[kosp]

Hello,

It took a long time to build up to 50 KG (110 lbs) dumbbells shoulder presses for 5 clean reps, and when I say clean reps I mean the dumbbells are touching the shoulders in the negative, all the way down.

This is heavy for a vertical sitting press and I am suspecting the humerus could disengage at any moment without previous warning, so I am thinking about stopping this exercise and doing a classic standing military press. What do you think?

 

[cdoubleu]

That is an impressive weight, and you should be proud.

I think you should take it to 120 lbs though.

In all reality though, if you are concerned, just decrease the range of motion on the down when you are really heavy.

 

[Rido]

If you are worried. Increase reps and drop weight. Idk what your form is or what not.

 

[kosp]

That is an impressive weight, and you should be proud.

I think you should take it to 120 lbs though.

In all reality though, if you are concerned, just decrease the range of motion on the down when you are really heavy.

There is no more weight in my gym , and in spain it's very rare to find a gym with +50kg dumbbells.

I'd never reduce range of motion dude haha that's my training policy.

 

[kosp]

If you are worried. Increase reps and drop weight. Idk what your form is or what not.

I am worried because i have heard bad histories about going heavy on that exercise, like very bad injuries

 

[kosp]

If you are worried. Increase reps and drop weight. Idk what your form is or what not.

I am the strongest i have ever being even with aggressive deficit, the cycle is going great

 

[MindlessWork]

I go no more than 60lbs on db shoulder presses due to the risk of injury, but increase the reps. For a standing military press the biggest thing may be the pressure on your back.

Better to have someone as a spotter when going real heavy on db shoulder presses.

 

[Rido]

I am worried because i have heard bad histories about going heavy on that exercise, like very bad injuries

I am the strongest i have ever being even with aggressive deficit, the cycle is going great

okay. well sounds you want to keep increasing the weight? its up to you.

 

[MindlessWork]

okay. well sounds you want to keep increasing the weight? its up to you.

That would certainly be a pact with the devil to do that. I'd go with a weight that's sensible and not add too much stress to the shoulder joint as it can only handle so much weight before something gives.

 

[Rido]

That would certainly be a pact with the devil to do that. I'd go with a weight that's sensible and not add too much stress to the shoulder joint as it can only handle so much weight before something gives.

Agreed.

I am tired of injuries. I can develop plenty of size without going below 8 reps and risking injury.

 

[MindlessWork]

Agreed.

I am tired of injuries. I can develop plenty of size without going below 8 reps and risking injury.

I've had my share of injury and as I'm getting older I'd want to reduce the risk so I go with weights that I can sensibly handle and adjust the reps. Just got my right shoulder healed up because I got too damned greedy on barbell bench and paid a price for that (damaged rotator). Ego lifting is where the injuries come and that's a bad mindset especially among the younger crowd.

 

[Evom1]

Go higher reps and go slower

 

[Ambitiouslabrat]

My honest opinion the juice isn’t worth the squeeze to go heavier.

Your shoulders are needed to work almost every aesthetic muscle us guys like to have.

Hurt shoulders = no chest, no back, no arms.

If anything just go slower and add more reps.

I mostly do Arnold presses and incline press at this point, I’m in my mid thirties and last time I hurt my shoulders I was out for 3 months because they just wouldn’t heal.

We all have different goals though so the choice as always is yours, impressive weight by the way.

 

[freakyjacked29]

Possibly the worst exercise for the joint
Stick to side rear front raises and if you do press a medium high incline will hit the delts over a normal shoulder press and protect the joint from wear and tear (cartilage damage osteoarthritis)

 

[MindlessWork]

Possibly the worst exercise for the joint
Stick to side rear front raises and if you do press a medium high incline will hit the delts over a normal shoulder press and protect the joint from wear and tear (cartilage damage osteoarthritis)

I do inclines with the bench set at 15° which is a comfortable position.

 

[bornSkinny]

What’s your goal strength or hypertrophy?
Those 5 heavy reps are great for strength but I bet your shoulders would be bigger with a lot less weight for lot more reps.

At least that’s been my experience for sure.

 

[Demondosage]

Save the heavier lifts for chest presses, the risk with heavy shoulder pressing is joint impingements in your shoulders/ac joints. Moderate weight, higher reps, no lockout on shoulder presses. Your joints will thank you down the road and you can still build massive shoulders

 

[jJjburton]

Hello,

It took a long time to build up to 50 KG (110 lbs) dumbbells shoulder presses for 5 clean reps, and when I say clean reps I mean the dumbbells are touching the shoulders in the negative, all the way down.

This is heavy for a vertical sitting press and I am suspecting the humerus could disengage at any moment without previous warning, so I am thinking about stopping this exercise and doing a classic standing military press. What do you think?

Arnold presses? Those are so much more natural of a movement pattern for shoulers, i feel less likely to injure

 

[Logan44551]

There is no more weight in my gym , and in spain it's very rare to find a gym with +50kg dumbbells.

I'd never reduce range of motion dude haha that's my training policy.

Full range of motion on that particular exercise is going to trash your shoulders.

 

[Rido]

Arnold presses? Those are so much more natural of a movement pattern for shoulers, i feel less likely to injure

I heard the history of it was something he create on the spot for a photo shoot lol