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HCG really worth it during BnC?
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Slowww
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Do you want to have kids? If yes, then worth it lmao.
definitely no real “feel good” stuff. Not sure why something that signals production of fsh and lh would make you feel good but ok
definitely no real “feel good” stuff. Not sure why something that signals production of fsh and lh would make you feel good but ok
ganciodestro
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Dont know why but honestly when I use hcg my libido is very high , i dont blast for 7 years but looks that hcg gives me a better libido then i blasted
Neurosteroid synthesis and higher libido.
They don't signal the production of FSH and LH it acts as a pretty much full LH agonist and a very weak FSH agonist.
ganciodestro
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Unfortunately, I’ve never checked my DHEA levels — not before a cycle, not during one, and not even while on TRT. I definitely should have.
If I could achieve the same mood just by taking DHEA, that would be fantastic.
However, HCG maintains my sperm production and keeps my testicles at a normal size.
None of this has anything to do with health, but I feel embarrassed about it in front of another woman.
That said, if I could find something that doesn’t cause these estrogen-related and mood swings (since these HCG mood fluctuations are sometimes unpleasant), I’d definitely replace this compound.
And I can also say for sure that my erections are stronger, almost as if I were taking Viagra, and my orgasm control and orgasm quality are excellent.
I’ve done tests using only testosterone (doses below 205 mg) and with HCG, and as soon as I start the HCG, these effects appear right away.
My mood, however, becomes very unstable, so I don’t take it for that reason — only for libido and to maintain my testicles.
Eddie.
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For me it’s useless, waste of money and extra hassle pinning another compound eod. Didn’t felt any difference, the only thing it did was raising my e2 to the friggin sky.
I just supplement with 25mg DHEA per day and my levels are middle-top of the range.
I would only suggest it for those who want to do a 12-16 week cycle and then PCT and not particularly from the start.
I just supplement with 25mg DHEA per day and my levels are middle-top of the range.
I would only suggest it for those who want to do a 12-16 week cycle and then PCT and not particularly from the start.
ganciodestro
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Does DHEA help with testicular atrophy and sperm production?
If not, doesn’t that bother you? (I mean intimately, with women.)
Eddie.
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No it doesn’t
And no it doesn’t bother me at all, nor me or my girlfriend. They’re smaller now but not like raisins. Also, I’m 37 and don’t want kids so even if I lose permanent the ability to make kids, so be it.
There are many cases who blast and cruise without hcg and when they did fertility protocol they manage to have kids, so I’m a little skeptical about the percentage of individuals who might lose permanently their fertility from peds.
niqTM
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500iu 2x/week HCG keeps my testicles normal size (sometimes they feel a little bigger than I remember) and I get a libido bump when I take it too. Not trying to have kids but the bigger loads and bigger testies are well worth it for me.
ganciodestro
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I see that many people, like me, experience a noticeable boost in libido when using hCG together with low doses of testosterone.
I’m wondering — if you increase the dosage of AAS (for example by adding Masteron or Proviron, which are known for their strong libido effects), do you get the same results in terms of libido?
Or do you keep using hCG even during a blast?
I’m wondering — if you increase the dosage of AAS (for example by adding Masteron or Proviron, which are known for their strong libido effects), do you get the same results in terms of libido?
Or do you keep using hCG even during a blast?
ganciodestro
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you inject it every 3.5 days?
JPMOTM
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I used to take HCG but dont bother now, pushed e2 too high and is a faff, never felt like it enhanced my mood. If i want to have a child I will run a fertility protocol. IMO HCG isnt even the best option for sperm production. HCG is an LH agonist (similar enough structure that it acts like LH in the body). But LH stimulates the leydig cells in the testes to produce testosterone. It doesn't directly stimulate the sertoli cells that are responsible for sperm production. It stimulates the sertoli cells somewhat, but this is due to the intra testicular testosterone being produced causing that stimulation.
If you want to stimulate sertoli cells directly to increase sperm production and quality, you need FSH. So taking either rFSH or HMG is a better option. Its probably worth adding HCG too for the intra testicular testosterone to really cover all bases. Although if you are on a high enough test dose it is possible that this will permeate the testes and provide that stimulation. Although this is sketchy logic and HCG is a far more direct approach. It can take 10-12 weeks for new sperm to mature, your sperm metrics wont improve overnight.
Also, maybe a load of rubbish, but apparently being on anabolics improves your chances of having a girl. You have higher oxidative stress in the body and the XX chromasomes are more resiliant, so if you are on a blast (and not slamming a tonne of glutathione, vit C, vit A etc) you are possibly limiting the number of XY male sperm being produced. This is definitely not studied or proven hah.
So if you come fully off anabolics, then yeah definitely take HCG so you have some testosterone and don't feel aweful. Probably worth adding in the fertility protocol even if you stay on test, to ensure the ITT production. If you are taking the HCG purely for testicular volume then I guess there isn't a better alternative.
If you want to stimulate sertoli cells directly to increase sperm production and quality, you need FSH. So taking either rFSH or HMG is a better option. Its probably worth adding HCG too for the intra testicular testosterone to really cover all bases. Although if you are on a high enough test dose it is possible that this will permeate the testes and provide that stimulation. Although this is sketchy logic and HCG is a far more direct approach. It can take 10-12 weeks for new sperm to mature, your sperm metrics wont improve overnight.
Also, maybe a load of rubbish, but apparently being on anabolics improves your chances of having a girl. You have higher oxidative stress in the body and the XX chromasomes are more resiliant, so if you are on a blast (and not slamming a tonne of glutathione, vit C, vit A etc) you are possibly limiting the number of XY male sperm being produced. This is definitely not studied or proven hah.
So if you come fully off anabolics, then yeah definitely take HCG so you have some testosterone and don't feel aweful. Probably worth adding in the fertility protocol even if you stay on test, to ensure the ITT production. If you are taking the HCG purely for testicular volume then I guess there isn't a better alternative.
niqTM
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Yup. Monday morning, Thursday night. I tried every other day and I didn't seem to get the same results.
ganciodestro
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Same result about size or libido?
ganciodestro
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used HMG together with Gonasi as a “test” at a ridiculously low dose, and my girlfriend actually got pregnant with a girl (it had been at least 9 years that, between one thing and another, I was on TRT — almost always using Gonasi).
I would use only HMG if it weren’t for the fact that the standard dose is 75 IU every other day, and the cost would be more than a month of GH.
niqTM
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My libido and size is much better with a bigger dose then microdose. My e2 might be higher too after that 500iu vs a few 250's but I, personally, like it better.
Rogal69
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Anytime anyone talks about their balls getting bigger on HCG I think of the legend, Rich Piana’s “dick to ball ratio”. They get smaller and IT looks bigger lol
ganciodestro
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My best libido was when I did 500 ui eod but lot of bloating and mood swing
I world like to know if with a big blast of testosterone (400+ mg) libido will be same
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