Has raw powders like Tren become illegal in china?

How do you separate the estrogen from the Tren?

I don't know anything about estrogen esters but I would have thought they would be affected by the same solvents thus commingled to the point they couldn't be separated out. I'd love to learn more! I live in agricultural heavy area so I can probably get the pellets a couple miles from my house at the co-op.
You most definitely can pull it out, I read about it the other day, It's just another step in the process you have to use another solvent, just basic chemistry once you have the process outlined, anybody can do it with a little time and effort.
 
If you can please sell me a few. I'm interested just for the experience.
Called the local one Test P is $220 plus tax a case and the Tren is $440 a case none in stock and only sell by the case there. I told him I only have a couple of cows on a small hobby farm and don't need a whole case. He recommended I check with a couple other smaller feed stores that might break up the cases. I'll holler at them when I get a chance. 1133512.webp2543785.webp
 
Called another, I sounded stupid... They're not a case. It's a box of cartridges and they won't sell the cartridges individually. Sorry...
I'll check with a neighbor if he has some but he only has calves and it looks like a totally different product for them.
 
Yeah you found it, The website I was on actually had every single kind, there was a drop down menu, and the letter at the end changes like the one up above has an H on it, and there was so many different kinds, they make it for bulls, steers, heifers, there was a lot of different f****** kinds, but it explains exactly what the content was of each one. Obviously you're not giving tren to a female cow, so that's the propionate usually
 
Yeah I don't know much about cattle LoL. What the guy said was there are different types for different stages of cattle. I told him I was looking for the pellets that make them big LoL. Guess I should have looked a bit more before calling.
 
Yes it depends if the cow is a female, If it's pregnant, If it's a bull and has balls, or a steer that has his nuts cut off, whether it has propinate, tren, estrogen, or progesterone, That's why there's so many different formulations you have to read up on it a little bit
 
Yes it depends if the cow is a female, If it's pregnant, If it's a bull and has balls, or a steer that has his nuts cut off, whether it has propinate, tren, estrogen, or progesterone, That's why there's so many different formulations you have to read up on it a little bit
Found one with 200mg tren in it
 
Yes it depends if the cow is a female, If it's pregnant, If it's a bull and has balls, or a steer that has his nuts cut off, whether it has propinate, tren, estrogen, or progesterone, That's why there's so many different formulations you have to read up on it a little bit
This def is not the most price effective however it is an option when our supplies run dry lol
 
Extracting it is already well established and to retrieve higher purity too.
absolutely love that you brought attention to recrystallisation, it is a great practice, i did so on my raws (92% purity test) a while back (on the recommendation of one of my buddies who is studying chemistry rn) it worked wonders (however the yield was a bit more than what you said in your post)
 
absolutely love that you brought attention to recrystallisation, it is a great practice, i did so on my raws (92% purity test) a while back (on the recommendation of one of my buddies who is studying chemistry rn) it worked wonders (however the yield was a bit more than what you said in your post)
Yeah I'm about to try it on 30 grams of tren, It's actually pretty fascinating and I like doing s*** like this and I don't find it to be a hassle. I want to actually weigh and analyze the cut or adulterants that they use
 
absolutely love that you brought attention to recrystallisation, it is a great practice, i did so on my raws (92% purity test) a while back (on the recommendation of one of my buddies who is studying chemistry rn) it worked wonders (however the yield was a bit more than what you said in your post)
Yeah man, recrystallization’s honestly a game-changer, but the yield can take a hit if you don’t dial it in just right. I ran into the same issue before, so here’s what I’ve figured out through trial and error.

So first off, you gotta make sure your acetone is clean and dry — like really dry. I dried mine with Epsom salt I baked in the oven, then let it sit with the acetone in a sealed jar for a few hours. That part alone helped a lot with consistency. And don’t just dump a bunch of acetone in — you want to use the smallest amount possible to dissolve everything. I heat it just under the boiling point, around 50 to 55°C, and I keep it moving while it’s dissolving the tren. You’ll notice the color change, usually dark amber if it's tren, and once it’s fully clear with no floaters, that’s when I know it’s ready to filter.

Then I run it hot through my vacuum filter setup — it makes a huge difference. Even if you’re just using coffee filters for now, make sure everything’s pre-heated or at least not freezing cold. Once filtered, I move the liquid to a clean beaker and just let it sit at room temp for a few hours. No fridge yet, just let it do its thing. After that, I chill it in the fridge, not the freezer, for maybe six hours or more.

Now here’s the part I think a lot of people miss: after it’s sat in the fridge and you start seeing crystals form, I’ll pour in a little bit of ice-cold distilled water. Like 5 to 10 ml max. Not a ton. I chill the water in the freezer before using it. Pour it in gently, don’t stir like crazy. If I do stir, it’s only the liquid part, slowly with a glass rod. Once that goes in, I let it sit in the fridge again and then finish it off in the freezer overnight.

By the next morning, I’ll usually have a thick layer of crystals stuck to the bottom of the beaker. At that point, I filter again, using ice-cold acetone to wash the top of the cake — only a little bit, just enough to get off any residue or surface impurities. You don’t want to redissolve anything.

And don’t toss the leftover acetone. It still holds a lot of tren. I run it through the same exact process again — chill it, crash it, freeze it — and I usually pull out another 20–30% that way.

Last thing: if your yield’s still low, it’s probably either too much solvent, too fast of a cool-down, or your acetone’s picking up water. Any of those will kill your crystals. Took me a few rounds to figure that out.

But do you expect a loss of product.... I mean, if you're starting with something impure, you're going to lose a lot anyways.... But as long as you do what I just said and you rinse until you get as much as you can out of it, you can be certain you're gonna have a much better product.
 
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