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Why are we stuck on what’s legal or not? Why aren’t we focused on winning, saving our families? Worry about the lawyer shit after you and your family are alive.
I dont feel the need to have to have the last word or anything like that. But your advice is polar opposite anything LE practices and trains for. A rifle has a MASSIVE disadvantage of over penetration. The vast majority of ppl may take your advice and buy FMJ rounds in bulk because thats whats cheapest and most economical. Most arent going to pony up for soft tips and load 2 to 3 magazines worth. They simply are not going to do it because of cost. That IS the drawback of a rifle used as home defense. The shotgun is and has always been considered the GREATEST anti personnel gun in history. Funny enough their cheap. Can get 2 or 3 self defense riot guns for the cost of a single rifle. It also happens to SIGNIFICANTLY lessen the chance of over penetration. And get this ammo is cheap! When LE and para military forces train they train to A. Immobilize a target as quickly as possible. B. Reduce collateral damage as much as possible. Your argument supports winning at all costs consequences come what may. That is a major breach of your civic duty and also one that is at odds with the professionals you seek to impersonate.
I don’t feel the need to get the last word either and I sure in the hell don’t want to fight with another 2A supporter/practitioner. I don’t care what LE does or how they train, the vast majority of them are incompetent at best. I Have a civic duty in public, I have no civic duty in the defense of those I love, I will win or be dead. I spent 20 years in the Military training to close with and destroy the enemy, I’ve cleared 100s of rooms in combat and training. I’ve been on the 2 way range dozens of times, I have even been hit. Not once have I ever trained to immobilize any enemy and make no mistake an armed intruder is your enemy. I still train in retirement to destroy what I am aiming at. Winning is the only acceptable outcome, living with my family hurt or worse is not acceptable. Mind set is crucial.
I’ll leave you with some gun porn, enjoy.
That’s all that matters at the end. Protecting what you love. If I have to sit in a cell for the rest of my life and my children are alive I’ll be ok with that, I won’t be happy but I firmly believe a father is the first and last line of defense for his child/children.
Post it up when your ready. I love exchanging ideas on builds.
Look brother i dont want to argue. I think weve both made our points. The difference is i know full well military style training is not fit for civilian defense. I mean the actual skill is good but not the mindset. More specifically the mindset that you are displaying. LE is infintely more experienced in this field than military because there is a difference between clearing buildings in a hostile zone and protecting life and property. One exercises extreme hostility and the other exercises due diligence. In the civilian world you have a civic duty to know your rights, exercise them and keep others out of the equation. That is our civic duty as armed sheep dogs. And i would further add if one does want to take up concealed carry to train accordingly. Firearm retention, weapon scramble drills, managing space during conflict, practice effective draw technique, practice under duress and most importantly train the skill set that is non lethal. Because that is the one you will encounter 9/10 over a gun fight. Jiu jitsu, boxing is ok. Lots of martial arts out there but bjj stands out i think above the rest. Because if you dont know it your fucked. It doesnt come natural to anybody. Not like throwing a punch er some thing. Because if it comes right down to it and you had to absolutely use your gun both parties already lost. One will end up dead and the other in a host of legal issues.
Ill agree with you on boxing/BJJ/wrestling. I will not ever agree with you on LE, they are laurel and hardy at best. The worst example of how to handle a firearm and or tactics. Listen use your shotgun and hesitate while thinking about your civic duty, I simply will not.
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nah, pistols or carbine length rifle. More maneuverable, higher capacity
15 .36 cal balls will still punch through walls. Most of us here can literally punch through a wall with their fist and completely wreck the interior of a house with a hammer inside an hour. Im not trying to work the pump on a shotty and take 2 sec to get back on target either
Thats subjective man. But a basic Remington 870 tactical will only run you $400 or so. A Benelli will run higher up on the budget.
A couple of you in this thread know what your talking about the rest of you
A good semi automatic rifle with detachable magazines is the preferred weapon for any fight, be it a firefight or home defense. A pistol is a weapon used for concealed carry or your primary has gone down for whatever reason, your primary weapon is a rifle.
Shotguns are for blowing locks and trench clearing. Infirior in every way to a rifle.
Revolvers are a novelty gun at this point, the myth that they are more reliable then a semiautomatic is just that a myth.
Capacity is king
Also keep in mind if you wanna stay on a budget and get a standard pump like a mossberg or a remington 870 you can run mini shells which basically doubles your capacity. A standard mini shell only works in pumps basically so it wont cycle properly in most semi autos. But a mini shell carries more kinetic energy that a .223 round and thats in its mini form! Also has far more projectile weight than any standard handgun round. Honestly there near perfect for home defense.
Did you spill RED loctite on your table
You are fucking insane.
