Good ol Rehab.

[Country Club Hero]

I’ve decided to go for 3 months in my mid 40s. And I’m actually hoping it works. I really don’t know what to expect. I don’t know how most people afford rehab honestly. The place I wanted to attend is $24k a month. Just not having any income or anything coming in for 3 months is enough for me.

I’ve never been in real trouble. But I was almost always a wild man. I’ve always been expert enough to use and abuse without getting caught or in too much trouble. But I almost killed myself again somewhat recently and just finally decided enough is enough. Now or never and I really wanna be sober and useful to others. Tired of being selfish. Feels like God has something for me important because the amount of times my life has been spared when it clearly shouldn’t have been has happened enough for me to finally take it serious and get it right. Don’t know what I’m doing but staying sober after rehab sounds like a start. I leave for 3 months in 2-4 weeks.

Need to get an Enclomiphene source so I can get some test online in my system. I’m on self prescribed TRT so I can’t take my normal TRT/HRT tools. So I’m looking at Enclomiphene. I honestly think it would have worked for my low Testosterone in the beginning. They don’t let you take supps in there so no boron or DHEA. But a script for TRT/Enclomiphene should work nicely.

Any tips, tricks, help, whatever? I’m pretty serious about being sober the rest of my life. I’ve already literally wasted 25 years in my prime. And my prime was already fairly sweet. Coulda been epic. Thanks.

 

[craigdt]

Good for you man.

I have no advice, but you can do it.

Im sure a local mena clinic or trt place would hook you right up

 

[bob357sig]

Honestly it’s going to come down to how much YOU want to be and stay sober. I went through the wringer so to speak with my ex. First time she went to rehab I was naive and thought that she would come back “ all fixed up”. Over the next few years, and about 12 rehab and detoxes later she actually had the nerve to say to me that she wished she had taken the first few times seriously! To her rehab was just an escape from her real life and treated almost like a vacation from reality. She would always find a few buddies there and it was like a slumber party for her. Meanwhile I was taking care of my 3 step daughters and our daughter together, plus running the household, bills, work, exc. what im trying to get across is that you get out of it what you put into it. If you don’t take it seriously, it will not work for you. I wish you luck.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

So I've been an addict of several things in my life...

Weekend'ish user for 7-8 years, everyday user for approx.10 years....

Been to rehab 1 time, and have not touched rec. drugs or alcohol since (but that's easy for me, I hate drinking) - did I do what they/experts told me to do..... Nope, I found my own way through my own pool of shit....
Now ....my thoughts, they will maybe twist your head a bit, and this may not apply to you, but maybe some of it will, and I do not know, if you are a HEAVY user, but here goes...

You will not get better, you will get f.cking worse for a loooong time - keep telling yourself that you just want something different...
(Just your brain playing with you, and your purpose of life that needs changing re-programming over time)

If you want to survive, now is the time be bloody selfish - there is only one you can trust in this world, not God, not friends, not family and not the ppl at the rehab , you can only trust Your own boring self, it's your own fight...

The paradox here, who's not to trust - who is the most self manipulating MF'er in the room, that will do everything, and tell you lies for you to relapse, it's YOU !

And a small heads up, maybe everything turns out totally different then what you dreamed of 'being sober' and that's ok, it's just 'Different'! - maybe now there are a lot of things you wanted in life, that you definitely can not do, sorry to say it ?? (Just be aware of yourself, maaaaany ppl relapse)



Like I said, We are all different, maybe some of my sh!t does not apply to you, but it works for me....

I wish you the best <3

 

[Country Club Hero]

Honestly it’s going to come down to how much YOU want to be and stay sober. I went through the wringer so to speak with my ex. First time she went to rehab I was naive and thought that she would come back “ all fixed up”. Over the next few years, and about 12 rehab and detoxes later she actually had the nerve to say to me that she wished she had taken the first few times seriously! To her rehab was just an escape from her real life and treated almost like a vacation from reality. She would always find a few buddies there and it was like a slumber party for her. Meanwhile I was taking care of my 3 step daughters and our daughter together, plus running the household, bills, work, exc. what im trying to get across is that you get out of it what you put into it. If you don’t take it seriously, it will not work for you. I wish you luck.

Ouch. That sounds shitty. Yeah Idc who else is there, I’m going for me.
I’m seriously seeking sobriety for life.

 

[bob357sig]

Ouch. That sounds shitty. Yeah Idc who else is there, I’m going for me.
I’m seriously seeking sobriety for life.

Karma got her ass pretty good. About a year ago after everything I did to try to help her she admitted to me she was having an affair with a co worker. That ended our 20 year relationship. Shortly after she was fired from her job for drinking on the job, and the guy was also fired “ she was actually his manager “. Then she was drunk and drove off the road with a car he had just bought with her and she hit a road sign badly damaging the car, left the scene and hid from the cops for a few days. Because of that she lost her license for a year! Now they both don’t have jobs or health insurance. Best thing she did for me was to have the affair and give me freedom from her bullshit. It kind of sucks being a 55 year old single guy who’s broke, bald, hairy and far from ripped but im not really looking to be involved with anyone anytime soon anyway. Just like all she did was take from me; that is what alcohol is doing to you. It never gives anything, it only takes, only difference is it won’t leave you, you have to leave it ! Best wishes. Bob.

 

[Ghoul]

I don’t mean to sound trite, I know it’s not a cure all, but there are numerous trials across the country using GLPs as part of alcohol and drug rehab programs, showing impressive results.

May want to consider finding a tolerable dose of Sema or Tirz since they really seem improve the chances of success. Or ask if getting an off label prescription from them for anti-addiction purposes is something they’d consider. There’s a lot of strong scientific literature from addiction specialists on this, they’re probably aware of it.

Addiction has a strong biological component, it’s not all about “willpower”.

A lot of people report being stunned at how the urge to drink or get high just disappeared after a few weeks or months on it.

 

[bob357sig]

I don’t mean to sound trite, I know it’s not a cure all, but there are numerous trials across the country using GLPs as part of alcohol and drug rehab programs, showing impressive results.

May want to consider finding a tolerable dose of Sema or Tirz since they really seem improve the chances of success. Or ask if getting an off label prescription from them for anti-addiction purposes is something they’d consider. There’s a lot of strong scientific literature from addiction specialists on this, they’re probably aware of it.

Addiction has a strong biological component, it’s not all about “willpower”.

A lot of people report being stunned at how the urge to drink or get high just disappeared after a few weeks or months on it.

I have heard that the same pathways that control the urge to eat are almost the same for the urge to drink. I agree, this is definitely something he should check into after rehab.

 

[Ghoul]

Will blockbuster obesity drugs revolutionize addiction treatment?

Scientists are testing whether GLP-1 drugs can help to cut cravings for cigarettes, alcohol and opioids — as well as food.

www.nature.com

 

[Scob]

I don’t mean to sound trite, I know it’s not a cure all, but there are numerous trials across the country using GLPs as part of alcohol and drug rehab programs, showing impressive results.

May want to consider finding a tolerable dose of Sema or Tirz since they really seem improve the chances of success. Or ask if getting an off label prescription from them for anti-addiction purposes is something they’d consider. There’s a lot of strong scientific literature from addiction specialists on this, they’re probably aware of it.

Addiction has a strong biological component, it’s not all about “willpower”.

A lot of people report being stunned at how the urge to drink or get high just disappeared after a few weeks or months on it.

I feel my dopamine addictions go away when I’m on Tirzepatide or Retatrutide. I used to chase dopamine in stuff like video games and weed. Now I just can’t do it anymore. And I try sometimes to play some games but they just can’t catch me for more than 30 minutes.
And weed , well that I don’t even look at anymore . It’s sitting in a box on my desk for months.
I know that’s not close to alcohol and other serious chemical addictions but I think these glp drugs have something that rewire your dopaminergic system .

 

[Ghoul]

I feel my dopamine addictions go away when I’m on Tirzepatide or Retatrutide. I used to chase dopamine in stuff like video games and weed. Now I just can’t do it anymore. And I try sometimes to play some games but they just can’t catch me for more than 30 minutes.
And weed , well that I don’t even look at anymore . It’s sitting in a box on my desk for months.
I know that’s not close to alcohol and other serious chemical addictions but I think these glp drugs have something that rewire your dopaminergic system .

Agree 100%. I was an “early adopter” of GLPs and this was something I noticed in myself and others before anything was written about the anti addictive properties.

The first outside reference I heard years ago was a couple of CNBC hosts joking about Ozempic use by celebrities long before the general public had access, and one commented that a lot of them say it made them stop drinking too.

 

[Samwise777]

that's rough about your ex, Bob. Sounds like she took the express train to rock bottom! As for the GLP stuff, I'm hearing more and more about it. Might be worth a shot if cravings become a real monster down the road. Thanks for the heads up, Ghoul and Scob!