Going flat on reta

[lucasj782]

Just curious if anyone else has had this problem or has any solutions. Even in a slight surplus abt 3500-4k cals a day hunger without reta is ravenous. On reta .5mg eod hunger is at bay but pumps are horrible no matter the carb amount. Could have 200g carbs pre workout get a pump for my first exercise then flat again. I need a solution. Switch to cag? Try .5mg every three days? Genuinely can’t control appetite without absuing stimulants and hating my life without a glp. Hoping for any answers or just people with similar experiences I can’t find much on the forums about reta inducing flatness or moderate hypoglycemia but it makes sense that it would in a high carb state. Fasted glucose around 70-90 a1c 4.6 if that means anything. Just can’t find an answer really. Low dose reta totally changes my life the food addiction and ED is gone mostly but these workouts and flat looking physique is almost as bad

 

[frofrank]

I'm sorry, not sure what came over me to dump all this, never really shared the entirety of this with anyone irl.

You're a real one for this man don't sweat it.

Don't mean this in a disrespectful way or because you just trauma dumped on the internet but some therapy (woah crazy word to drop in front of high testosterone men) would help I'm sure. Your brains been changed, its not your fault however it is your responsibility to fix it to help future you and your relationships. I'm sure it will also help you to make smart decisions when using the fun stuff we do.

I lost 130+ pounds and am told I look great, compliments from all over however I'm pushing 30 with no confidence to find a gf due to lifelong obesity and the inevitable emotional distraught you put yourself through while that size. Not really any answers or much of great advice in here for you just wanted to let you know you're not alone brotha!

Just to add some sort of relevant context to this thread I'm on 8mg reta, pumps are okay but nothing great; but I don't see why the need to drop something so beneficial just to feel 10% bigger for an hour of the day at the gym. Most likely goes back to something consciously for us.....

 

[Raiders789]

You're a real one for this man don't sweat it.

Don't mean this in a disrespectful way or because you just trauma dumped on the internet but some therapy (woah crazy word to drop in front of high testosterone men) would help I'm sure. Your brains been changed, its not your fault however it is your responsibility to fix it to help future you and your relationships. I'm sure it will also help you to make smart decisions when using the fun stuff we do.

I lost 130+ pounds and am told I look great, compliments from all over however I'm pushing 30 with no confidence to find a gf due to lifelong obesity and the inevitable emotional distraught you put yourself through while that size. Not really any answers or much of great advice in here for you just wanted to let you know you're not alone brotha!

Just to add some sort of relevant context to this thread I'm on 8mg reta, pumps are okay but nothing great; but I don't see why the need to drop something so beneficial just to feel 10% bigger for an hour of the day at the gym. Most likely goes back to something consciously for us.....

Appreciate it bro. Really good to hear there are more ppl out there that have gone through something similar. And I appreciate you calling me out - I've never even considered therapy but I'm going to look into it now!

 

[lucasj782]

Ngl this is incredibly relatable... The past few days I've been getting horrible cravings and pretty much ate myself sick the past two nights. Got back form bouncing at 3am yesterday and literally ate an entire fucking box of cinnamon toast crunch and 3 pints of halo top.

I grew up clinically obese as well, and essentially did the same thing you did and ED'ed myself into being underweight - and that completely messed up my hunger signaling. basically had to devote my entire daily focus to volume eating to stay under a certain amount of calories. Like this might sound retarded, but there was a period in my life where I'd refuse to go out socially because I was scared I'd overeat and get fat again. This was during my senior year of hs and I lost most of my friends and my split up with my gf because of it. Might be oversharing, but I got horribly depressed because of it and at my worst I came pretty close to roping a few times.

The past few days I felt just like I did back in 2022 and its really messing with my mental health. Reta/glp1s in general have been huge for me in blunting my ED and I thought I had recovered from it, but I guess not lmao. The mix of ED and body dysmorphia is fucking horrible. Idk some days I wake up and I hate the way I look and I don't understand it; I'm 6'1 210lbs 10%bf and I know I look better than most people, and I've come such a long way since my fatass got bullied in highschool, and sometimes I feel great about myself and I get complimented all the time now, but I still see that same fatass kid in the mirror. It motivates me to push myself harder, but I wonder all the time if I'll always feel like this. Sometimes I wish I could just be happy with how I look like normal people do, and eat what I want without having to think about it like normal people do, like I used to be before I developed an ED and this whole pipeline started. I'd trade my physique now in a heartbeat if I could go back to that life, and get a second chance with my (now long ex) gf and all my friends and get to experience being truly happy again.

I'm sorry, not sure what came over me to dump all this, never really shared the entirety of this with anyone irl. But yea lmao Im back doing 3mg/week of reta as of today to keep my appetite reasonable. On the flipside, theres def some truth to being flat on reta because I've literally gotten the best pumps of my life these past few lifts. And I feel so much more cognitively alert and motivated throughout the day its crazy. Please lmk how the low dose tirz goes - I've been considering that myself and I'll pull the trigger on it if u end up liking it more.

whenever i first stop reta and its out of my system i get the best pumps of my life probably from the fact im basically diabetic having a crazy glucose rebound then after a week it goes back to normal. when i was younger i always wanted to eat. always. just have loved food my whole life. probably have adhd ivr never had the off switch. its not even an appetite thing entirely i just saw food instinctively as “oh this tastes good why would i stop eating” even when im literally sick and cant move. always had a chubby face and was a bit chubby never obese because i played sports year round but in highschool i learned about calories and macros and started starving myself and got to 135 at 6’1. id fast all day then binge at night and have weekly cheat days at 15-16. i didnt reallt see it as an eating thing it was just how id have fun. come home on friday night and eat a bunch of food and watch tv. later in hs is when i started lifting and did a similar diet with tons of cardio and ended up getting to 160 super lean. would eat tubs of spinach and plain cottage cheese etc etc. the crazy bulk i did was really just me be comfortable with getting a bit chubby since i had a gf and the gym was somewhat an excuse to just finally be able to stuff my face after years of dieting constantly(didnt realize this at the time but now i do). once i lost all the weight those cheat days happened and totally fucked my perception of food even more. idk ive always had problems eating even if i wasnt overweight. glps dont even help me since my problem isnt appetite that much it just helps to keep my from ever being hungry which can help me be distracted enough not to eat. lately all i want to do is eat. not even junk food or unhealthy food just want to fill the void with something and everytime i get hungry which now is 24/7 im just overwhelmed with this panic followed by having to calm myself down to not eat. constantly watching the clock for my next meal. incredibly irritable just nit myself. its like my whole life is how you’d feel at the end of a hard cut. i know i cant go back on reta because of how horrible it makes me feel so im really praying tirz does enough for me because id genuinely agree to die at 40 if it meant i wouldnt have to think about food again its that controlling and detrimental to my quality of life. im in the same boat with how i look especially since being so fat left me with nipples completely disconnected with my chest, loose skin, jowls, etc etc i pretty much cant ever fix what it did to me. maybe enough gear will help but it will likely just help me cope until i cant bear it anymore

 

[lucasj782]

You're a real one for this man don't sweat it.

Don't mean this in a disrespectful way or because you just trauma dumped on the internet but some therapy (woah crazy word to drop in front of high testosterone men) would help I'm sure. Your brains been changed, its not your fault however it is your responsibility to fix it to help future you and your relationships. I'm sure it will also help you to make smart decisions when using the fun stuff we do.

I lost 130+ pounds and am told I look great, compliments from all over however I'm pushing 30 with no confidence to find a gf due to lifelong obesity and the inevitable emotional distraught you put yourself through while that size. Not really any answers or much of great advice in here for you just wanted to let you know you're not alone brotha!

Just to add some sort of relevant context to this thread I'm on 8mg reta, pumps are okay but nothing great; but I don't see why the need to drop something so beneficial just to feel 10% bigger for an hour of the day at the gym. Most likely goes back to something consciously for us.....

for me its not just pumps thats just a biproduct of glucose problems where i have zero energy and am completely tired 24/7