GHRP+GHRH= 50.0mcg/L serum?!?!

[hotdog23]

Been doing a lot of research on Growth and peptides lately, specifically trying to find an iu equivalent for the pulses created by GHRP-2/6 and cjc w/o dac, mod grf 1-29... So I understand that after a 10iu dose of hgh, a serum test result of 25-30ng/ml or mcg/L is a great result showing you used legit growth - dosed properly. OK so these two studies both show a GH serum peak after 100mcg ghrp6/100mcg ghrh (unspecified) administration of 50mcg/l ... Almost TWICE as high as 10iu hgh serum results, although the peak from GH administration isn't known since most users are dosing at a guess as to when levels will peak.

At the cost why isn't everyone dosing GHRP/GHRH 3x daily for better results than synthetic somatropin?? Or are the peptides available to us just that low quality?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11030292/?i=2&from=/17609397/related

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/11980622/?i=3&from=/11030292/related

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Peptides peak high but the pulse is short lived when compared to GH.

 

[brutus79]

Here is my take based on my own research and personal experience.
1. Pinning 3-5x a day with peptides is a pain in the ass.
2. You can't have any carb intake for about an hour before or after peptide injections. Also a pain in the ass.
3. I personally have never gotten or known anyone who has gotten serum testing with peptides and do not know when or how to find out when the peak is
4. A quality peptide is as difficult to find (sometimes) as gh. Supplier quality fluctuates wildly.
5. Pharm gh is very expensive considering peptides do the same thing.
6. People flock to gh because pros don't do peptides. I believe this is because they run upwards of 20iu and you cannot get that from a peptide. For someone using 2-6iu a day peptides are a good choice assuming they are real.
7. Your body figures out what you are doing with peptides faorly quickly and you have to hop off for a few weeks every two months. Gh you can run indefinitely.

I will probably be doing peptides from now on... because I believe they are effective and I cannot afford (or at least rationalize spending) gh money. If I won the lottery I would run 8iu serostim a day for the rest of my life. This hasn't happened so I prefer to spend 1400 bucks a month on other shit.

 

[hotdog23]

I agree the diet finagling and constant pinning is not ideal. But at $60/month for ghrp/cjc really can't be beat if your doubling natty GH, which I'd think is completely possible. I guess peptides have more limitations than I previously thought... Still I thought those blood results were pretty fuckin impressive. I really really doubt the ghrp6 I got in the fridge is anything close to quality they used tho. I've only ever used Purchasepeps but was looking at pepbridge? Who do you all recommend?

Wait... Wouldn't GH natural or synthetic half the same half life? Once it secreted it seems like that amount would be active just as long as the exogenous synthetic? Maybe I'm missing something

 

[arbitrage]

I think I am going go run GHRP-2/GHRH at 100/100 2 or 3x per day along with my 3iu of GH. Someone stop me if this is crazy.

 

[brutus79]

I think I am going go run GHRP-2/GHRH at 100/100 2 or 3x per day along with my 3iu of GH. Someone stop me if this is crazy.

hmmmmmmm- seems kinda like sniffing caffeine pills in between sniffing the world's finest cocaine.

 

[dper726]

GHRP has a relatively short half life, thats why all that constant pinning is required. Brutus is pretty much spot on that list he accumulated for you. Also blood levels fluctuate too much with GHRP. It is a very inconsistent addition for what you want to get out of it. Thats why GH is the easy way out if you could afford it above all of ofcourse.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

I think I am going go run GHRP-2/GHRH at 100/100 2 or 3x per day along with my 3iu of GH. Someone stop me if this is crazy.

I've never personally done it but a lot of anecdotal experiences report that they stack well together.

 

[hotdog23]

Thanks DPer726. As much as I'd love too, I can't imagine spending the money. And I wouldn't unless I could do it right with 8-10iu daily. Like Brutus said... Keep playin lotto lol..

@arbitrage I think you would do it like this: 3 iu in am, 100/100 in afternoon evening, 100/100 before bed. Def before bed with the peptides. This way you can make the most out of your natural pulses and keep a semi-constant level all day. I'm not a 100% how exogenous GH effects the negative feedback loop, but this is how I've seen others run peptides with GH.

 

[brutus79]

I also switch up the ghrp I use- imaporelin during day pins and ghrp2 for night pins... good ghrp makes you tired, dizzy and hungry.

 

[arbitrage]

Cool, thanks. Part of the reason I want to work in ghrp-2 is to get a dose at night to help me sleep. I will probably try the afternoon and evening dosing schedule, alternating the ghrp used.

 

[hotdog23]

Brutus, who do u like for your peps?

 

[brutus79]

Hardcore peptides were recommended to me and were excellent last run.

 

[hotdog23]

Thx. Taken with 'a grain', seems like quality can vary one week to the next. Lookin to restart my peps when I start pct

 

[brutus79]

Thx. Taken with 'a grain', seems like quality can vary one week to the next. Lookin to restart my peps when I start pct

I def can't say how they are today but good as of a few months ago fo sho

 

[pmac928]

I'm actually thinking about giving the ghrp 2 Cjc wo dac a shot for a lil while. Can you guys give me a quick dosing guide? Do I mix with bac water only? Sub-q? And can I mix together in 1 pin?

 

[hotdog23]

** I use BAC water with ghrp-6 200mcg 3x daily, 1.5 hours after eating and then wait 30 min before eating. Sub q in the belly.
**ive read/heard to dose cjc and ghrp at 100/100 x3 daily. Yes you can mix in same pen but it was recommended to me to draw cjc first as to not contaminate the more fragile cjc with ghrp. Maybe on 6 weeks off 3 or on 2 month off 1? No clear guidelines on that but I agree with Brutus that they lose effect over time.