Ghoul banned

[AlexDavis43]

How is it that I allow minors to do anything on this forum? They have ALWAYS been consistently banned, and their threads have been deleted in most cases. If any have been missed, please let me know. Fortunately, the MESO community does a great job of catching and reporting these instances as far as I know.

I honestly don't think many guys actually know what harm reduction is. One thing it is not is ad hominem attacks. There is no shortage of questionable advice on this forum. You guys need to meticulously attack the merits of the bad advice.

MESO is a platform that gives its members unprecedented freedom with minimal restrictions in promoting harm reduction particularly when it comes to criticizing, calling out, and otherwise holding sources accountable. It is disappointing to see this freedom being used to harass, stalk, and bully other members with ad hominem attacks. The fact that threads are populated with hundreds of ad homimen attacks, and high percentages of some members' posts are merely ad hominem attack is not what harm reduction is about.

MESO will always ban and prohibit minors from participating in this forum. It's ironic that even the chronological adults are acting like children. Grow up. Stop acting like children. The childish bickering is exhausting.

Do better.

Most of the time when some 16-year old joins and makes a post on their first day about planning their first cycle or using GH to grow taller, they're banned pretty quickly.

Appreciated.

Teenagers are retarded. Everyone telling them not to do something would likely just encourage them further.

 

[ComancheChief]

Most of the time when some 16-year old joins and makes a post on their first day about planning their first cycle or using GH to grow taller, they're banned pretty quickly.

Appreciated.

Teenagers are retarded. Everyone telling them not to do something would likely just encourage them further.

Well they all learn the hard way 5 years later with all the side effects. Plus priorities change drastically as you get older. I use to think AAS was the magic potion to life and I’d look like a Greek god. But ironically I’d say roids has made me look worse. Sure I’m bigger and stronger but that doesn’t always equate to looking better. I’ve come to accept that my body just isn’t meant for blasting these compounds.

 

[dinfar1337]

Any idea why Ghoul was banned ?

the sun is back

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

I understand your point of not banning people when they direct their racial response to Chinese sources when they’re not satisfied with their services, however, this particular case isn’t.

Who else here is a repeat offender? Getting banned for the same infractions over and over again?

So, how many racists remarks can we get away with before one is permanently banned? Or we just get a temporary account suspensions for each episode?

Nobody is going to learn shit at this point.

Like how he redid the same offense a few hours after being unbanned?

Guess he "learned" his lesson. Now he is saying I am acting woke as a counter argument? Lol

I am all down for racial based jokes. Just using it as a way to insult people is a different tone.

Now he is crying victim lol. He brought this upon himself.

 

[Ateam2023]

How is it that I allow minors to do anything on this forum? They have ALWAYS been consistently banned, and their threads have been deleted in most cases. If any have been missed, please let me know. Fortunately, the MESO community does a great job of catching and reporting these instances as far as I know.

I honestly don't think many guys actually know what harm reduction is. One thing it is not is ad hominem attacks. There is no shortage of questionable advice on this forum. You guys need to meticulously attack the merits of the bad advice.

MESO is a platform that gives its members unprecedented freedom with minimal restrictions in promoting harm reduction particularly when it comes to criticizing, calling out, and otherwise holding sources accountable. It is disappointing to see this freedom being used to harass, stalk, and bully other members with ad hominem attacks. The fact that threads are populated with hundreds of ad homimen attacks, and high percentages of some members' posts are merely ad hominem attack is not what harm reduction is about.

MESO will always ban and prohibit minors from participating in this forum. It's ironic that even the chronological adults are acting like children. Grow up. Stop acting like children. The childish bickering is exhausting.

Do better.

thanks for clarification, it just strikes me odd how these minors get away with 6-7-+ pages of bs posts before "the ban" gets dropped, i do appreciate the fact that you " eventually" get around to banning these kids,,

 

[Stealth500]

Teenagers are retarded. Everyone telling them not to do something would likely just encourage them further.

I know many middle aged people still like that.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Most of the time when some 16-year old joins and makes a post on their first day about planning their first cycle or using GH to grow taller, they're banned pretty quickly.

Appreciated.

Teenagers are retarded. Everyone telling them not to do something would likely just encourage them further.

"But I did extensive research "

 

[AlexDavis43]

thanks for clarification, it just strikes me odd how these minors get away with 6-7-+ pages of bs posts before "the ban" gets dropped, i do appreciate the fact that you " eventually" get around to banning these kids,,

Otherwise it would be a full time job (or 2, another for the night shift).

Millard would need a team to catch shit like this around the clock.

Sometimes the threads get long pretty quickly.

 

[DECLAN]

Like how he redid the same offense a few hours after being unbanned?

Guess he "learned" his lesson. Now he is saying I am acting woke as a counter argument? Lol

I am all down for racial based jokes. Just using it as a way to insult people is a different tone.

Now he is crying victim lol. He brought this upon himself.

Exactly, doing the same thing after you’ve been banned is just stupid or flaunting that you’re untouchable.

Oh well, let’s just keep on calling out racist behaviors just to make it clear that we don’t want to be associated with racists or tolerate such acts.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Otherwise it would be a full time job (or 2, another for the night shift).

Millard would need a team to catch shit like this around the clock.

Sometimes the threads get long pretty quickly.

too bad the around-the-clock team here are the people that have been banned.

@readalot is still here liking/disliking shit in the background lol

 

[Millard]

To be clear, Meso tolerates racism so as to not discourage criticism of sources

To be clear, MESO bans people for racism. Sometimes after a warning. Sometimes not. Depends on the context.

So I disagree with you assertion that "MESO tolerates racism". MESO doesn't tolerate this. There are consequences usually in the form of a temporary ban. I guess it wouldn't be characterized as zero tolerance since that would probably mean a permanent ban.

I agree that racism breeds hate. But there's enough hate (harassment, bullying, stalking, and ad hominem attacks) on the forum without the racism. How much censorship should we have on this forum? Should MESO rely on temporary bans? Or start issuing permanent bans for all of the hate?

I understand your point of not banning people when they direct their racial response to Chinese sources when they’re not satisfied with their services, however, this particular case isn’t.

Who else here is a repeat offender? Getting banned for the same infractions over and over again?

So, how many racists remarks can we get away with before one is permanently banned? Or we just get a temporary account suspensions for each episode?

Nobody is going to learn shit at this point.

MESO bans people for racism. It may be a temporary ban. But they are still banned.

There are more than a few members, even highly-regarded members who by all accounts have gone above and beyond to hold sources accountable, that have repeatedly used racist/ethnic slurs even after being warned or temporarily banned. They eventually stop. But not always after the first warning/ban. I think many members would agree that a temporary ban was appropriate in their cases. MESO for consistency in its approach to this with all members.

 

[Millard]

thanks for clarification, it just strikes me odd how these minors get away with 6-7-+ pages of bs posts before "the ban" gets dropped, i do appreciate the fact that you " eventually" get around to banning these kids,,

You and me both. I can't believe how some members are interacting with these kids for 6-7+ pages without reporting it to moderation.

Thank you to the ones that do. I am shaking my head at all the members who don't but proceed to give them attention.

So yeah @Ateam2023 , try reporting them next time a minor shows up rather than responding to them.

 

[Millard]

I am all down for racial based jokes. Just using it as a way to insult people is a different tone.

All racial/ethnic slurs/jokes are insulting to people. Just because you may find humor in them doesn't change the fact.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

All racial/ethnic slurs/jokes are insulting to people. Just because you may find humor in them doesn't change the fact.

Yea I guess... If a friend says it to me, it never bothers me. I keep my mouth shut about the jokes because it would offend some people. If someone made some jokes about my background, it wouldn't affect me.


Reminds me of the controversy of Dave Chappelle and how things have changed.

 

[DECLAN]

To be clear, MESO bans people for racism. Sometimes after a warning. Sometimes not. Depends on the context.

So I disagree with you assertion that "MESO tolerates racism". MESO doesn't tolerate this. There are consequences usually in the form of a temporary ban. I guess it wouldn't be characterized as zero tolerance since that would probably mean a permanent ban.

I agree that racism breeds hate. But there's enough hate (harassment, bullying, stalking, and ad hominem attacks) on the forum without the racism. How much censorship should we have on this forum? Should MESO rely on temporary bans? Or start issuing permanent bans for all of the hate?

MESO bans people for racism. It may be a temporary ban. But they are still banned.

There are more than a few members, even highly-regarded members who by all accounts have gone above and beyond to hold sources accountable, that have repeatedly used racist/ethnic slurs even after being warned or temporarily banned. They eventually stop. But not always after the first warning/ban. I think many members would agree that a temporary ban was appropriate in their cases. MESO for consistency in its approach to this with all members.

So how many times can one be racist then? Temporary ban doesn’t work as we’ve seen in Ghoul’s case, he immediately threw a racist remark as soon as he gets unbanned, does that seem like he learned something?

In the eyes of the members, what do you think that looks like? A slap on the wrist doesn’t do anything for the forum, it just enables such behavior. Soon, members are going to follow through knowing they’re just going to be have a few weeks vacation and can come back to sow racial hate once again.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

So how many times can one be racist then? Temporary ban doesn’t work as we’ve seen in Ghoul’s case, he immediately threw a racist remark as soon as he gets unbanned, does that seem like he learned something?

In the eyes of the members, what do you think that looks like? A slap on the wrist doesn’t do anything for the forum, it just enables such behavior. Soon, members are going to follow through knowing they’re just going to be have a few weeks vacation and can come back to sow racial hate once again.

The only real resolution is to have a sit down with his parents to discuss his behavior on the forums.

"Dear Mr and Mrs ghoul, your child has had racial insulting outbursts with the other children. Is there a problem at home?"

 

[BigDadd7]

The only real resolution is to have a sit down with his parents to discuss his behavior on the forums.

"Dear Mr and Mrs ghoul, your child has had racial insulting outbursts with the other children. Is there a problem at home?"

No more meat loaf for ghoul!

 

[Millard]

So how many times can one be racist then? Temporary ban doesn’t work as we’ve seen in Ghoul’s case, he immediately threw a racist remark as soon as he gets unbanned, does that seem like he learned something?

In the eyes of the members, what do you think that looks like? A slap on the wrist doesn’t do anything for the forum, it just enables such behavior. Soon, members are going to follow through knowing they’re just going to be have a few weeks vacation and can come back to sow racial hate once again.

I think you are right. I am sick of giving people multiple chances. I am glad that so many of you feel so strongly against hate. MESO will have a zero tolerance policy for all forms of racism, anti-semitism, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia. Y'all ok with that?

Zero Tolerance Policy on Hate Speech​

Effective Immediately

MESO now enforces a zero tolerance policy for the following:

• Racism
• Anti-Semitism
• Misogyny
• Homophobia
• Transphobia

Violations will result in an immediate and permanent ban.

No warnings. No appeals. No exceptions.

This applies to all forum activity — posts, messages, usernames, avatars, and shared content.

Help us keep MESO respectful, inclusive, and focused on informed discussion.

Report violations to the moderation team.

 

[dinfar1337]

I think you are right. I am sick of giving people multiple chances. I am glad that so many of you feel so strongly against hate. MESO will have a zero tolerance policy for all forms of racism, anti-semitism, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia. Y'all ok with that?

Zero Tolerance Policy on Hate Speech​

Effective Immediately

MESO now enforces a zero tolerance policy for the following:

• Racism
• Anti-Semitism
• Misogyny
• Homophobia
• Transphobia

Violations will result in an immediate and permanent ban.

No warnings. No appeals. No exceptions.

This applies to all forum activity — posts, messages, usernames, avatars, and shared content.

Help us keep MESO respectful, inclusive, and focused on informed discussion.

Report violations to the moderation team.

can we remove the anti semitism

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

racial hate once again.

IDK what race you are but I already hate it.