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Getting into gear as a lifelong commitment

FrenchToastKing said:
The main reason I want to hop on is the quality-of-life improvements people often talk about—stronger erections, higher libido, consistent morning wood, more confidence, etc.
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At 23 none of these things should really be an issue, except maybe the confidence thing.

If these are your main reasons then I would look into ways to self-improve that don’t involve needles in ur butt
 
FrenchToastKing said:
Hey guys,

I’m 23 and have been lifting since I was 17. I started out as a really skinny, undernourished kid at around 100 lbs, but after years of training and a dirty bulk, I hit 253 lbs at my peak. I’ve since cut down a lot of the fat, though I still have some stubborn lower back fat left that I’m working on this year.

Right now I’m 173 cm (5’8”) and 189 lbs.

I’ve been looking into Chase Irons’ approach to getting on gear. The plan I had in mind is starting with 200 mg/week of Test E, then reassessing every 8 weeks to decide whether to increase the dose, and eventually adding in a DHT derivative.

The main reason I want to hop on is the quality-of-life improvements people often talk about—stronger erections, higher libido, consistent morning wood, more confidence, etc.—in addition to the obvious training benefits.
  • Would 200 mg/week be a solid starting point to build from?
  • I already have anastrozole and letrozole on hand, both dissolved in vodka for even dosing. How should I best approach AI use as a first-timer?
  • My biggest concern is gyno, since it can throw off your entire look. As a newbie, I’m also aware that the other side effects are no joke, so I want to be cautious.
Any advice, suggestions, or experiences you can share would mean a lot.

Thanks in advance
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Before you start. Get your bodyfat under control. You have erection problems because you’re out of shape and you don't do enough cardio. Do 30 minutes of fasted cardio every single day. If you do not have a serious training and nutrition program in place, the test won’t do anything for you. The test will be a complete waste.

Before you do anything, get your blood work done. There could be something else going on.
 
FrenchToastKing said:
Wdym mean by shitty nutrition? Just getting in enough protein and then free-balling carbs and fats?
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I would eat 5k calories one day with horrible macros and the next day not eat all. Progress was still made. I'm mainly just advocating that steroids work even if they're "low" dosages when you're new.
 
FrenchToastKing said:
quality-of-life improvements
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imo quality of life is not a good enough excuse to ever jump on but some people will welcome 40 year olds jumping on trt vs someone nearing mid 20's they are not welcomed. where i will only welcome anyone if they need it to compete and not just want improvement in their dick.

going back in forth just about the availbility system everyones been complaining about, free choice, free testosterone for everyone, only your responbility.

when you realise 60 year olds and todays 20 year olds have same testosterone levels. its up to yourself as long as you're over 18 and a adult.

just know like every other fucker in here they shouldn't be on if they are not "true bodybuilders" and i dont think you should get on either for quality of life
 
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Aww, looks like I angered one of Chase's sycophantic nut gobblers. The thumbs down reaction is for little pussy bitches. Don't like something I said? Man the fuck up and refute it with facts or move along, faggot. @professionaldyel
 
adrenalytic said:
One more thing. Chase Irons is a drug addict. His doses are unreasonable for a normal person (seriously, who runs 700 mg tren year round?).

Do not follow his advice as a beginner or even as a seasoned vet.
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I know a lot of ppl who do that seriously and not only that they may be running 2g test 1g deca then 1g test 700 tren orals all year round
I for a fact know a guy who specifically uses 2g test 100mg dbol 500deca 200-700tren year round no jokes! He’s not impressive or really bug neither ! Also do the jabs only in the glutes that’s going in for more than 5-7 years now.
You may not believe me but it’s true and I know a lot of guys who do that.
And I was thinking I was reckless cause I did some mediocre cycles back in the days compare to those guys or run 500mg of test as a “TRT” for 2 years. But I mostly do real TRT 175mg.
 
Quality of life and libido problems at 23 seem out of pocket. Bro see a doctor or change your lifestyle if you have these problems. You’re not a middle aged man and a steroid forum is not going to give you the green light on the magic pill because it isn’t that. Steroids dont do shit for “confidence, energy, feeling good” if you’re like 23. Stop buying what the trt grifters online are putting out.
I started at 26, and had more energy etc when I was natural because I don’t need steroids for well-being because most people in their 20s straight up dont .
 
adrenalytic said:
Aww, looks like I angered one of Chase's sycophantic nut gobblers. The thumbs down reaction is for little pussy bitches. Don't like something I said? Man the fuck up and refute it with facts or move along, faggot. @professionaldyel
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angered? lmao. Sycpphantic nut globbers? Chase has a habbit of doing very shady fad garbage to get people to buy into his membership/peptide company/affiliate codes .You're spreading misinformation when hes one of the most open guys in the scene when it comes to his personal use. Rage harder you fucking dork lol.
 
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professionaldyel said:
angered? lmao. Sycpphantic nut globbers? Chase has a habbit of doing very shady fad garbage to get people to buy into his membership/peptide company/affiliate codes .You're spreading misinformation when hes one of the most open guys in the scene when it comes to his personal use. Rage harder you fucking dork lol.
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*Whoosh* That's the sound of the point sliding right past your smooth brain. Take your thumbs down garbage back to reddit. What misinformation did I spread? Idgaf if he's honest about being a drug addict. That doesn't make him someone to aspire to be like which is what I was cautioning OP against. Gobble his nuts more.

And just because I called you a fitting pejorative and told you to man up doesn't mean I'm angry but it does say something about what a delicate flower you are. This is the internet, the angriest I'll get is eye-roll levels of disgust. You pulled the internet equivalent of a pussy ass drive-by insult. All I said was "pull the fuck over so I can educate you". Little did I know you were a dumbfuck incapable of staying on point.

Scurry along now. Chase has another open and honest retatrutide shill video for you to watch lol.
 
Scruf said:
Before you start. Get your bodyfat under control. You have erection problems because you’re out of shape and you don't do enough cardio. Do 30 minutes of fasted cardio every single day. If you do not have a serious training and nutrition program in place, the test won’t do anything for you. The test will be a complete waste.

Before you do anything, get your blood work done. There could be something else going on.
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He probably eats all the shit food full of food coloring, soy additives, and HFCS. Add zero cardio and too much fat. I'll bet he's real good at video games though. "Why do I have ED and no libido?" It's a mystery.
 
dinfar1337 said:
i've seen it happen

bloodwork if he is for real and if theres no issue he can get out
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Oh sure, definitely could happen. If the blood work shows it, then of course treat as needed, but I kind of doubt it in this case just based on what’s written. I’ve seen lots of guys IRL convinced they need trt but are totally fine when they get blood work. Same thing with thyroid and metabolism— they think they have a problem because they can’t gain or lose weight, but after pulling bloods it’s just a lifestyle thing.

This is why I suggested going to the doctor. If he’s got a real medical issue, it’s probably most prudent to take blood work, and analyze steps forward with a professional. & if he wants to juice to fuckin juice, more power to him but he definitely didn’t frame it like that
 
Slowww said:
but I kind of doubt it in this case just based on what’s written
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100%, guys ive spoken with that had it happen was basically ungrown ups sitting with test levels below 20-30ng basically 0 production because of a autoimmune issue or they have no idea why but their body isnt producing testosterone.

they had a serious glow ups once getting on testosterone. there will 100% be signs other than some libido issues. being 180lbs lean is a big sign his balls is working as they're supposed to!
 
adrenalytic said:
What misinformation did I spread?

And just because I called you a fitting pejorative and told you to man up doesn't mean I'm angry but it does say something about what a delicate flower you are. This is the internet, the angriest I'll get is eye-roll levels of disgust. You pulled the internet equivalent of a pussy ass drive-by insult. All I said was "pull the fuck over so I can educate you". Little did I know you were a dumbfuck incapable of staying on point.

Scurry along now. Chase has another open and honest retatrutide shill video for you to watch lol.
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That hes been on 700mg of tren year round recently? lmao. He's said that hes done retarded shit in the past and doesn't want other people to make the same mistakes when it comes to gear.

taking an internet forum reaction emoji (would have chosen the clown one if it was there) personal just shows how much of "man" you aren't lol.


You have no point and are being an emotional lunatic. You cant even realize that I said he does shady shilling. Did he bend you over in his comment section or something?
 
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