Elektrobot
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These are truths
There seems to be a distinct lack of critical thinking, and a lazy approach to learning.
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These are truths
There seems to be a distinct lack of critical thinking, and a lazy approach to learning.
BabaJagga
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i just dont care much about what others do. its weird that people care.
Banana Joe
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While I think that is a noble cause, I cannot see that burden falling onto me.
I always despised people unable to think critically and for themselves, or that are lazy and have a dozen excuses why they can't.
How do you teach someone online to go all in in the gym? We both know that almost all, of those who claim to train hard, just don't.
When I started working out, I went to the biggest guy in the gym and LISTENED. And even though I was critical of a few things he had told me, I didn't tell him how wrong he is, because of this and that, citing sources I have never really read, let alone understood. Or being offended if he told me I can do a lot better, and that so far my effort at something in particular is more than just a bit weak.
Did I then follow all his advice? At the beginning pretty much yes, so I put my head down and started grinding. Of course he didn't take me serious at the beginning, but a few months later he saw the results of it, and that I didn't make up excuses like so many others, that surely had asked him before me.
And following his, admittedly sometimes flawed, advice still helped me tremendously, to understand what this sport is about. At this point we hadn't even talked about drugs, which took probably another two years or so.
Eventually I learned more, and came up with my own ideas, how good or bad they may have been at the time.
While you can argue, that BB always has been and always will be a vain sport, we never had an entire generation groomed to be narcissistic, petulent, entitled children, that never learned that one needs to put in at least SOME effort to get anywhere.
I will not claim to have had or have a great physique, nor that I achieved great things in other aspects of life. nor will I claim to not have been an idiot, when I was younger, because I have been guilty of that surely more than most.
But I very rarely fell for what the masses fall for all the time. Even as a child you will have had a hard time convincing me with some bullshit. I never had a personal social media account, because I realised from the get-go that Facebook and alike are all tools to further control and influence on the uneducated masses. And I think I had an idea where all this will lead us to.
But I was using bulletin boards for all kinds of topics even as a teenager, probably even when I was still on dial up. No matter what had just peeked my curiosity, I went out and searched for the best, and for me still comprehensible, information. Of course I wasn't really able to understand academic literature at that time, even though some of it was already available back them.
Why should I now have any sympathy for the next generation equally, or arguably more unable, to think for themselves?
That is not just anecdotally, Universities are complaining that new students lack the knowledge that former students all had, and which is NECESSARY to successfully study whatever they have picked. They now have classes teaching them things they should have learned in school to at least somewhat prepare them for their studies. Companies claim the same about their trainees left and right.
A friend of mine is an engineer at a premium car manufacturer, and even back in his studies, they had professors tell them, that the course have been cut down and don't contain as much math anymore.
I just read that we now have 20% functionally illiterate people where I live.
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yea, idk what OP is rambling about, gear was just as accessible 20 years ago as it is now. There are countless guys with good physiques that never make it in social media
Banana Joe
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It is not about being a contrarian, and believe it or not, to make a point you sometimes gotta write a bit more. But I will try to keep this as short as I can:
You fail to the bigger issue here, this is a simple numbers game.
When that new generation of trt-bros, fat people, looksmaxxers, or morons with no training or nutrition knowledge but wanting to take tren in their first cycle, has outnumbered the previous kind of user, that was pretty homogenous over the past 20 years, by orders of magnitudes, you will realise what I was talking about.
In fact, you could already see it, if you were looking just a bit harder for it.
Gyms culture has already been totally destroyed by these people (and corporate greed), now forums like this one are next in line.
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bossetti
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The problem is people my age are too lazy to do eveything and they think a good body with some doping they gonna chieve their goals, but its not only people my age, look at how many middle aged amateurs train 10h a week and dope, the juice should arrive when u dont have much more left in ur natural catridge, sleeping good good diet dont drink dont party train like crazy ecc
Then you can think of something
People love the easy way, but its always the wrong one if u didnt optimezed the other harder ways lol
And i think i have the right to say it because when the others were partyng i was going to sleep to go ride at 4AM dark,rain,hard fog,extreme heat, i was always there to do fucking kilojoules on the bike always alone, i enjoy it but its not the easiest thing to do
Then you can think of something
People love the easy way, but its always the wrong one if u didnt optimezed the other harder ways lol
And i think i have the right to say it because when the others were partyng i was going to sleep to go ride at 4AM dark,rain,hard fog,extreme heat, i was always there to do fucking kilojoules on the bike always alone, i enjoy it but its not the easiest thing to do
Bandern
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ZOOMER guys don’t want WOMEN they wanna do TREN to look good on TIKTOK so they can do SEX to the SNORLAX POKÉMON
Banana Joe
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Who being jealous of what?
AllbrandNew
Member
Yes
Banana Joe
Member
This.
And I want to see anyone make the claim, that such a drastic change in behaviour has recently (as in the last couple centuries) happened in prior generations, from one to the next one.
Of course you can ask who is to blame for, and I surely would not blame Gen Z for all of that, but it doesn't change the fact, that I/we have to deal with this now on almost every level.
explodingHeart
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Teens have been using steroids since the 60s. Difference being compared to teens now, back then they actually looked good.
This guy was 19 in this pic.
dinfar1337
New Member
Constantinople was utterly defeated and conquered by a 21 year old.
great men will be great men no matter the age and time.
theres a difference in abusing for passion and greatness.
and then having people abusing anabolic steroids because its trendy on tiktok and they think they'll grow from nothing to 6 arms on it.
some people will have insane genetics and go from zero to hero but ultimately we're only praising the winners. the losers will always be trampled on. their life, their decision, their winnings, their mistakes. future mr olympia, attainable naturally.
you can keep fighting, and fighting, and fighting and everywhere you end up is losing. we can only praise the guys who made a insane physique of it and everyone else shouldn't be on anything at all.
including people at any age. and any amount of time on steroids
my point is no one should shame themselves. keep claiming natty until you're a monster. fake natty with that mindset for life.
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IndividualMan
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tbf the guy this thread is about has 2 looks. when he is loocked in he looks good but has small arms, when he lets his diet slip a bit he bloatmaxxes harder than kapoulak. A video of his came across my Instagram thread of him doing a physique check after a city trip, and he looked as if he stuck his face & gut into a beehive.
what he is doing is essentially "debloating" aka shitmaxxing and lowkey doing a halfassed prep at all times. he rarely takes pictures/ videos after eating, and when he does, he looks noticeably worse.
I do think what he did is inspirational tho. Truly shows that with enough drug use you too can have great shoulders and still have small arms
what he is doing is essentially "debloating" aka shitmaxxing and lowkey doing a halfassed prep at all times. he rarely takes pictures/ videos after eating, and when he does, he looks noticeably worse.
I do think what he did is inspirational tho. Truly shows that with enough drug use you too can have great shoulders and still have small arms
adrenalytic
Member
And all the anabolics in the world won't increase his dick size, which is really what this is all about.
Elektrobot
Member
Is it true that shoulders have more androgen receptors and are therefore possibly more responsive to steroid use than arms? I wonder if that's why the low effort guys always have built shoulders and nothing else.
AllbrandNew
Member
I always thought it was traps, and then shoulders. Never have I seen someone on gear without yuge traps, even when the rest of them is not that built.
IndividualMan
Member
call me crazy, I got about an extra inch in ~1 year from using gear (Test, DHT, tbol and Var). even accounting for the Peenor gains I got from getting leaner.
adrenalytic
Member
Ya my dick looks huge since I got lean. But I feel like any actual growth is either greatly exaggerated or imagined.
That being said, there are studies on adolescent boys diagnosed with Idiopathic Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism (IHH) and micropenis. They administered the boys hCG over a period of 24 weeks and there was measured growth.
Outside of being an adolescent diagnosed with micropenis, there are no studies showing testosterone to have any impact on normal (ie., no IHH, micropenis) adult penis size.
Some sources note a temporary increase in penile size during AAS use due to increased blood flow, but this is not true growth and does not persist after cessation of steroids. You lose your dick gains.
IndividualMan
Member
NOOOOO I FINALLY BEAT THE 1 STANDARD DEVIATION noooo
but yeah, increased blood flow porbably explains it.
However, I was rather young when I started, so I will keep the cope/hope of it maybe being actual growth lmao
