Gay Marriage (The True Conservative View)

fuck all this gay shit marriage rights crap

point is if they start allowing fucking same sex people to marry then that will spawn off fucking retarded legislation

like hey i want to marry two other guys...lets all three get married..soon youll see two girls and one guy getting married

its fucking stupid you dont need to formality of someone announcing you as married to feel that way IMO

so if your gay and want to be married do the fucking ceremony by yourself on your own time...but dont expect the law in most places to respect those vows
 
Again, an example of the law at work. At one time, polygamy was the norm. As to why we have come to despise it, I can't comment with certainty. I suspect the evil influence of the Church, but that's just me.

My point is, at some point, the mass of people decided that it should be ONE man and ONE woman who could be considered married. They out voted, out powered, out whichever method, those of the polygamist persuasion.

The result is now marriage being considered one man and one woman. The push for gay marriage would only be another metamorphosis in the changing landscape of the law.
 
| have discussed this with Cub who I have been partners with for some time and would like to settle down with. I want equality in tax breaks etc and of title. The law is malleable as said, and my love for a woman is no more valid than that for a man
 
That is quite true! Or in my basement where I grow my dope....not that I actually do that, but it's the point of the matter I'm stressing.
 
greyowl said:
I think we're all missing something here.

The State has no business in the bedrooms of the nation.


No it doesn't. But it does when it comes to married couples receiving job benefits, tax breaks, etc. They can do whatever the hell they want in their bedroom, but they don't have to be married for that.
 
Grizzly said:
That is quite true! Or in my basement where I grow my dope....not that I actually do that, but it's the point of the matter I'm stressing.

This is the second time in one week that we've agreed with one another. Where is this heading? A same-sex marriage between Grey and Griz!

Not tonight dear, I have a headache.
 
My position is quite different from most.

I believe the State has no business issuing marriage licenses - to any couple.

Don't most people agree that "marriage" is a religious institution?

Why does anyone need the State to legitimize a marriage?

Doesn't marriage gain its legitimacy from a divine authority?

The state should only issue "civil union licenses" period if they must regulate it.
Of course, if you don't believe in the separation of church and state (and I take it most americans don't), then you will surely disagree.

But for those who believe in the separation of church and state, do you disagree and why?
 
greyowl said:
This is the second time in one week that we've agreed with one another. Where is this heading? A same-sex marriage between Grey and Griz!

Not tonight dear, I have a headache.

Hey Grey....if you are a good little boy, Grizz will let you ride on his handlebars. :D
 
greyowl said:
It's not his handlebars I'm worried about, it's his joystick.

Nah..don't worry about that little albino pickle....he has to stick his finger up his ass to get the little guy to poke his head out. :D
 
administrator said:
My position is quite different from most.

I believe the State has no business issuing marriage licenses - to any couple.

Don't most people agree that "marriage" is a religious institution?

Why does anyone need the State to legitimize a marriage?

Doesn't marriage gain its legitimacy from a divine authority?

The state should only issue "civil union licenses" period if they must regulate it.
Of course, if you don't believe in the separation of church and state (and I take it most americans don't), then you will surely disagree.

But for those who believe in the separation of church and state, do you disagree and why?

yes marriage is a religious institution

therefore if you extract that concept and study what GWs religion says about homos you will see he denounces them

i have respect for his convictions because they are just that...he stands by his beliefs....

to be honest i could care less what others think that i may be narrow minded or a right winged religious freak....so what....atleast i believe in something...just like some of you believe homsexuality is morally ok...

problem is most people either have no morals or they have a way different view of what morals are than christianity does

Sodom and Gomorrah anyone?
 
Kayz said:
Nah..don't worry about that little albino pickle....he has to stick his finger up his ass to get the little guy to poke his head out. :D

LMMFAO!!! Ahahahaha! That was pretty funny, Kayz. You've got it wrong, though. My dick works fine. I stick my finger up my ass for fun. :D
 
Gentlestrength said:
| have discussed this with Cub who I have been partners with for some time and would like to settle down with. I want equality in tax breaks etc and of title. The law is malleable as said, and my love for a woman is no more valid than that for a man

What a wonderful way to start the day, Bear I cried at my desk when i read that :) Guys Bear sent me an amazing eCard today, i just hope you all have partners like mine :) :)
 
Grizzly said:
LMMFAO!!! Ahahahaha! That was pretty funny, Kayz. You've got it wrong, though. My dick works fine. I stick my finger up my ass for fun. :D

...whew...and I thought I was the only who did that. :D
 
Grizzly said:
Holy shit that was a terrible bunch of arguments! I'm not trying to put you down, I'm just pointing out that those arguments are horrendous.

Dude, don't know if you're aware of this, but the drinking age has changed NUMEROUS times in the history of this country. On top of that, the legality of drinking itself has changed.

That's sort of way laws are designed, bro. They are malleable and subject to change. Roe v. Wade, anyone? No Ultimate fighting this week, but next week it's fine.

And definitions of a word? Do you know how many changes the language has gone through in its history? Go to England and ask them to define "fag". It's a cigarette. Or maybe it was up until 20 years ago.

Dude, just say it. "I hate homos and I don't think they're real people" because that's the essence of your "arguments".

Good God.. what a bunch of bigots. You are trying to disguise your hate in logic. That's terrible, I hope you feel good about yourselves. Don't you people see? This is the same type of thinking that went on for segregation. God, if you can't see that, then you should cut off your dick so that you can't contaiminate the rest of the world. What a bunch of spoon-feed sheep. Such hatred for the fellow man. Get a life people. You might as well hate handicaped people while you are at it. WE ARE ALL THE SAME CREATURES! OUR HEART'S BEAT FOR THE SAME REASON THEIR'S DOES! Yeah, and I dont give a shit if you flame me, at least I'm not a goddamn homophobe and somehow think I'm better than someone else I don't even know. Oh yeah! Sodom and Gomorrah you said?! Here's a fucking newsflash: CHRISIANITY IS NOT THE ONLY RELIGION! Why would anyone give a fuck what the christian bible has to say about gays if they don't even believe in it?! Open your eyes! Not everyone believes like you! Wow, I know I'm prolly the first person to ever tell you that, but guess what, it's reality. The gov't has no right to tell me how to/should live my life; including putting regulations on my own personal feelings. Another news flash: NOT letting gay ppl get married will NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY. God.. Flame away sheep!
 
Kayz said:
I got another question regarding health insurance. As an employer, I provide health insurance to my employees and their immediate family if they choose to accept it. Now, I pay premiums based on the number of people on the plan.

The fact that homosexuals are at a MUCH higher rate to contract AIDS...would that infect health insurance rates??? 60% of all cases of AIDS in males is contracted via homosexual intercourse.

Would a gay couple automatically be placed in a "high risk" category for insurance??

Oh my fucking god.. he's serious..
 
Deca said:
Good God.. what a bunch of bigots. You are trying to disguise your hate in logic. That's terrible, I hope you feel good about yourselves. Don't you people see? This is the same type of thinking that went on for segregation. God, if you can't see that, then you should cut off your dick so that you can't contaiminate the rest of the world. What a bunch of spoon-feed sheep. Such hatred for the fellow man. Get a life people. You might as well hate handicaped people while you are at it. WE ARE ALL THE SAME CREATURES! OUR HEART'S BEAT FOR THE SAME REASON THEIR'S DOES! Yeah, and I dont give a shit if you flame me, at least I'm not a goddamn homophobe and somehow think I'm better than someone else I don't even know. Oh yeah! Sodom and Gomorrah you said?! Here's a fucking newsflash: CHRISIANITY IS NOT THE ONLY RELIGION! Why would anyone give a fuck what the christian bible has to say about gays if they don't even believe in it?! Open your eyes! Not everyone believes like you! Wow, I know I'm prolly the first person to ever tell you that, but guess what, it's reality. The gov't has no right to tell me how to/should live my life; including putting regulations on my own personal feelings. Another news flash: NOT letting gay ppl get married will NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY. God.. Flame away sheep!

queer :D
 
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