For Nattokinase users - you may not be taking enough...

RockyP

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Not sure if ya'll have seen this but it seems we may have all been taking not nearly enough Natto to get the desired benefits. Seems that 3,600 FU and below is useless, and the best effects are at 10,800 FU daily.

 
I'm glad you posted this as, even though it is just one relatively small study, addresses the possibility of many people underdosing, especially considering how much may, or may not, pass the gastric acidity intact.



When I came across this study, I started buying nattokinase in bulk powder form from this company. Nattokinase -

I requested testing certificates, which they provided, and was told 1 Tsp of their product is approximately 11,000FUs.
 

Abstract​

This study was based on in vitro observations that naringin isolated from grapefruit induced red cell aggregation and evidence that clumped red cells are removed from the circulation by phagocytosis. The effect on hematocrits of adding grapefruit to the daily diet was determined using 36 human subjects (12 F, 24 M) over a 42-day study. The hematocrits ranged from 36.5 to 55.8% at the start and 38.8% to 49.2% at the end of the study. There was a differential effect on the hematocrit. The largest decreases occurred at the highest hematocrits and the effect decreased on the intermediate hematocrits; however, the low hematocrits increased. There was no significant difference between ingesting 1/2 or 1 grapefruit per day but a decrease in hematocrit due to ingestion of grapefruit was statistically significant at the p less than 0.01 level.


This is from pubmed. Very inexpensive and easy protocol to follow. I juice 1 grapefruit a day. Costs me about 6-8 usd a week for a bag of them. I tried HemoFlow for 6 months straight and it had absolutely no effect on my H&H. Skipping my bi annual blood donation and just using the pills had me at 54.3:hematocrit whilst fully hydrated. Pissed some good coin down the toilet on that nonsense.
 

Abstract​

This study was based on in vitro observations that naringin isolated from grapefruit induced red cell aggregation and evidence that clumped red cells are removed from the circulation by phagocytosis. The effect on hematocrits of adding grapefruit to the daily diet was determined using 36 human subjects (12 F, 24 M) over a 42-day study. The hematocrits ranged from 36.5 to 55.8% at the start and 38.8% to 49.2% at the end of the study. There was a differential effect on the hematocrit. The largest decreases occurred at the highest hematocrits and the effect decreased on the intermediate hematocrits; however, the low hematocrits increased. There was no significant difference between ingesting 1/2 or 1 grapefruit per day but a decrease in hematocrit due to ingestion of grapefruit was statistically significant at the p less than 0.01 level.


This is from pubmed. Very inexpensive and easy protocol to follow. I juice 1 grapefruit a day. Costs me about 6-8 usd a week for a bag of them. I tried HemoFlow for 6 months straight and it had absolutely no effect on my H&H. Skipping my bi annual blood donation and just using the pills had me at 54.3:hematocrit whilst fully hydrated. Pissed some good coin down the toilet on that nonsense.
Out of curiousity, are you using a handheld press or an actual juicer? I've been trying to eat a grapefruit a day and it's so damn messy and will gladly switch over as I already own both of those items.
 
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