I was thinking 60mg test c/day, 200mg primo e/2x per week, 5iu hgh/day, 500iu hcg 2x/week, 20mg diana/day, 0.25mg arimidex eod, pct 2 days after last test cycle nolva & clomid, opinions? Age 16, 6ft1 64kg 12%bf maybe less, current stack is cjc dac, ipamorelin, bpc 157, retatrutide
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
First cycle
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First off it's very dumb to run gear at such a young age. Second it's dumb to run so many compounds on your first cycle.
You are going to lose most of the gains once you PCT any way. And then you'll have suppressed testosterone and be even weaker than before you started. Also can get horrible acne so bad you won't want to take your shirt off.
^Thats exactly what happened to me on my first cycle but luckily I waited till I was 25 to not fuck up my developing endocrine system.
If you're going to do it any way it should be a test only cycle and ai only if need after getting labs. Still a bad idea though.
You are going to lose most of the gains once you PCT any way. And then you'll have suppressed testosterone and be even weaker than before you started. Also can get horrible acne so bad you won't want to take your shirt off.
^Thats exactly what happened to me on my first cycle but luckily I waited till I was 25 to not fuck up my developing endocrine system.
If you're going to do it any way it should be a test only cycle and ai only if need after getting labs. Still a bad idea though.
BALLISTIC
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You're 16 kid, nobody here is going to assist.
I assure you the general consensus will be "NO". Nobody with solid ethics is going to bring forward any information assisting this endeavor.
It's actually ridiculous that you're even entertaining a life altering decision of this magnitude.
Go back to school. Get a great education. Get a great career. Stay focused in the gym. Get a wife and life. Have kids. Let nature take its course. Come back later in life. This is the most solid advice you'll get. You may not like it but 20 years from now you'll be thankful you listened.
I assure you the general consensus will be "NO". Nobody with solid ethics is going to bring forward any information assisting this endeavor.
It's actually ridiculous that you're even entertaining a life altering decision of this magnitude.
Go back to school. Get a great education. Get a great career. Stay focused in the gym. Get a wife and life. Have kids. Let nature take its course. Come back later in life. This is the most solid advice you'll get. You may not like it but 20 years from now you'll be thankful you listened.
Hgh is already ordered anyways i will do blood tests, ive got the money, and yeah i jusz wanna not be a stick, im already on compounds i might aswell try that, been on hexarelin, seramorelim and so much more, mk677 obv, yeah i just dont see how i wouldnt profit, 4 month cycle
BALLISTIC
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Why not dbol and test and primo? Primos clean ill leave that anyway, i thought of anavar but i dont think it helps build mass, i will do the cycle with lab tests; money is not an issue, thanks for the reply but realistically i will still do it, and i see for myself how i respond, infact i do know i have high androgen sensitivity, 9 cag so
I dont see a point, id rather be 70kg lean at 17, i want presence i am indeed severly insecure
Steroids are going to make you more insecure because you're going to fuck up your body. Bad acne, gyno, hair loss, hypogonadism, ED, etc.
If you weren't going to listen to advice, then why'd you post here? This forum is for harm reduction and you're about to cause a lot of harm to your body. Any one experienced with AAS knows what you are doing is a terrible idea and would never condone it.
tweek
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What's up with all the young children coming on here lol.
Just focus on your diet and training till your in your 20s. You have lots of room for natural growth.
Taking test now will just mess you up, youll gain some weight but lose everything and crash your testosterone coming off. Practically leaving you worse off
Just focus on your diet and training till your in your 20s. You have lots of room for natural growth.
Taking test now will just mess you up, youll gain some weight but lose everything and crash your testosterone coming off. Practically leaving you worse off
adrenalytic
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Elektrobot
Member
Drugs won't fix that
Go get a coach
Learn how to train properly
Learn how to program nutrition
If you can't figure out how to gain muscle right now without drugs, then this isn't the sport for you.
Elektrobot
Member
Why
All you're going to do is shut down your natural production to replace it with the same amount... or less.
Stop being foolish kid.
RandallFlagg
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Dude - if you have parents that care, talk to them.
If not, older siblings? Uncle? Grandparents?
Still no? Coach? Counselor? Clergy? Someone??
I'm not sure what you are hoping to do with this "stack." I don't have a clue what possessed you to start all this shit...but has any of the stuff you have already used made a difference?
I assume you don't really have anyone in your life paying attention. I can't fathom how you have access to all this shit and no one to question it?
If you NEED this stuff then you need to
1.) START with a comprehensive medical evaluation
2.) and ask them to add on a psychological evaluation.
3.) Comprehensive baseline lab work - you can't order it on your own based on your age. Honestly, no doctor is going to add on the things we routinely check here to get an idea of what cycles are doing to our system.
4.) DIET: hell,.see if you can meet with a nutritionist?
5.) Trainer?? Do you have a coach or someone? I security probably keeping you from seeking out these resources but at least where I am there are even medical referrals to work with a trainer for like 10 sessions. If you have the cash for all this dope then you must have cash for other ancillary things
There are far better ways to deal with anxiety and insecurity..I'm sympathetic to your plight. I mean shit, I have a kid your age and the catty bullshit he doesn't want to deal with from teenagers on sports teams and in the gym is just sad...no idea what your situation is but these compounds are not "safe",."clean", or "harmless."
You are going to be far more prone to the psychological side effects of gear, your endocrine system is going through plenty at your age...not to mention horrible acne, hair loss, and Lord knows what facial transfigurations with HGH.
Your stack is just throwing darts at a board. I'm not making fun of you. You have zero idea what you are doing....and zero medical supervision to track the harm you are doing. I'm not just grandpa shaking his fist at the clouds.
Ultimately you are going to do what you are going to do. But Jesus dude...take a step back. Brainstorm some better ideas for your life...I mean shit,.even ChatGPT may help you with this aspect of things. There has got to be another way for you.
Good luck.
I'm not a puritan. As a compromise, try dropping all the other shit and just starting with Test C? To be honest I don't have a fucking clue what dose to tell you to start at because your natural levels are probably already at 1000 anyway...adding 200 mg is probably just gonna shut your natural production down.
Slowww
Member
Use the money and buy food, join your school football team or do a sport. Come on kid. That will do much more for your confidence than becoming a drug user before you get a gf. You’re wasting time with things like mk677. If you can’t feed and develop a 60kg body without hunger drugs it’s not gonna work with gear. Also mk677 will ruin insulin sensitivity and effects wear off anyways. Youre using PEDS poorly to boot.
As a parent these kind of posts make me pretty sad. I really hope you can feel better about yourself kid, and stop buying into all the junk the internet is trying to sell you.
As a parent these kind of posts make me pretty sad. I really hope you can feel better about yourself kid, and stop buying into all the junk the internet is trying to sell you.
RandallFlagg
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Also - maybe I'm dense,.but you have your face blocked out in 1 photo but not the other one..at least ask the mods to fix that (though they will presumably torch this whole thread given your age)
Edit: also make sure you have been evaluated for pectus excavatum. At minimum chest X-rays but probably full spine would be a great idea.
tweek
Member
If your already on a bunch of shit and still 141lbs then you seriously need a diet overhaul.
My 16 year old kid is that weight at 5' 9" and hes never stepped foot in a gym before
Track what you eat and keep bumping up calories until you see weight gain, when you stall out bump it up etc.
If you have issues eating alot then make some mass gain shakes like oats, protein powder, peanut butter, bananas, Greek yogurt etc etc and drink it.
More drugs won't make you grow if you cant grow now. The issue here is food and thats it
Adi18
New Member
Go see a therapist
trtbuilder
Member
Pro tip: Gear doesn't fix your mental health, in fact it's likely just going to make it worse. You'll get the gains but it will never be enough and you'll do enough gear by 30 to fuck your health for life. Good luck.
You already look better than the vast majority of 16 year olds, wtf do you have to be insecure about?
You already look better than the vast majority of 16 year olds, wtf do you have to be insecure about?
BALLISTIC
Member
Same man, I like to think I'm an insensitive ass at times, but some how these kids today going through trials of daily life put me in my place. Dad Life.
@Arvidzh hit me up in DMs kid, let's talk more in depth. I'm not going to condone nor promote anything related to AAS. So if that's your goal don't ask. But if you don't have anyone as stated above family wise, reach out and let's get down to how things are going in life. Insecure is no way to live and I'm on here at least once a day or every few days. Like you I was 16 once, 6'2" and 145lbs, I don't sugar coat things.
