First cycle - test only

[bigboy420]

Do not be a pussy

bro you need to stop typing imbecil.

 

[IndividualMan]

Did you perhaps notice frame changes, like wider clavicles (not delt growth)? Did the dht make you loose hair, get oily skin, acne etc.?

yes, a bit of extra width/ presence in photos in comparison to my peers was noticeable after ~6 months, growth probably happened earlier.
While i do have people in my family who have pretty severe hair loss ( 3 people bald before 30 on my dads side, 3 generations of male baldness on my moms side) i had no symptoms of shrinking hair follicles, or anything of that sort.

Body hair growth, penile growth ( minimal, ~0.5 inch extra circumference) slightly oily skin, mild shoulder acne, and overall more ingrown hairs were noticeable as well.

If you dont mind, can you share the sources for raw test and especially dht powder?

if there would have been a good DHT source, it would have been QSC, but i do believe PPL carries Test base powder.
If you can get your hands on 5-alpha-reductase enzyme you can make a bit of DHT yourself (it seems to be a bit of a hassle though).

 

[IndividualMan]

bro you need to stop typing imbecil.

yeah, i agree. it was a bit aggressive.
My core message should have benn something like: Use the right tool for the job, don't try to cause the effects of DHT/HGH with some basic test and get confused when it doesn't do what you want it to do.

 

[bigboy420]

yeah, i agree. it was a bit aggressive.

No i mean you dont know shit. Not the aggresive part.

 

[IndividualMan]

No i mean you dont know shit. Not the aggresive part.

? in regard to the DHT i do know my (personal) experience, plus the statement that 250 test/wk will never cause the same amount of androgenic signaling as an unnamed amount of DHT powder is correct.

The nice young man who made this post specifically said he wanted facial bone growth.

then he said he wanted to use a tool (test, enclo & Hcg) for a certain amount of time (however long, he does not sound like someone who would stick with it long enough for it to matter) which I believe does not cause the desired effect (with the right training and diet it could get him some noticeable gains though).

So I suggested the approach I used (albeit for different reasons), which caused me to experience some, if not all, of the changes the person who started this thread desires.

I do agree that my knowledge is limited (I dont know squat about GH for example, have definitely used it too sparsely to form an opinion on it), but in this case I believe myself to be at least a bit qualified. Your messages are quite short and seem very unproductive. not fun

 

[bigboy420]

Your messages are quite short and seem very unproductive. not fun

Ur the clown of the thread. You make it fun