First cycle-Any advice, suggestions?

[SSorm]

Base(First 10 weeks):
Testosterone (400-600mg/week, cruise on TRT dose between blasts)

Blast options (20 weeks):
400mg Test + 50mg Anadrol daily + 25-50mg Tren (±200mg Mast)
600mg Test + 50mg Anadrol daily
Cutting: 250mg Test + 100mg Tren + 25mg Anadrol

Health on cycle (daily):
Telmisartan 180mg
Cialis 5-10mg
Ezetimibe 5mg
Bempedoic acid 180mg
Pitavastatin 2mg (if lipids bad)
Eplerenone 25mg
Nebivolol 5mg
Pentoxifylline 400mg
HCG 200 IU EOD

Peptides:
Epitalon 500mcg, Pinealon 500mcg, Cerebrolysin 5ml EOD IM, MOTS-C 500mcg, Cartalax, Bonothyrk

Nootropics:
TAK-653 2-4mg, BPN-14770 2-5mg, Bromantane 25-75mg, ACD-856 5-10mg, Memantine 10mg (if Tren)

Skin:
Accutane 10mg EOD, TUDCA 500mg, Azelaic acid topical EOD, Tretinoin EOD

General health supps:
Urolithin A 500mg, Astaxanthin 12mg, Mg bisglycinate 1g, Taurine 5g, Sulforaphane 150mg, NAC 600mg

 

[dinfaralt]

i dont even wanna give advice, how do you go this wrong?

 

[newguy2]

Bro that's a ton of stuff. Wow. Keep it simple.

 

[SSorm]

Bro that's a ton of stuff. Wow. Keep it simple.

Yes this is an extreme stack im doing it high risk also with the stuff after 10 weeks.

 

[Sera]

If this is your first cycle you don’t even know what steroids do yet, so how do you know how many of them you want to take?

 

[SSorm]

If this is your first cycle you don’t even know what steroids do yet, so how do you know how many of them you want to take?

Research, im just looking for advice i might've missed something.

 

[PiscesMoon]

Hey @SSorm Please make a New Member Introduction thread for yourself here:

New Member Introduction

Introduce yourself.

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Sharing some information about your current stats, experience level, fitness goals, etc will be helpful for other members to understand where you are coming from & maybe proceed with any advice and suggestions for your cycle.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Research, im just looking for advice i might've missed something.

->Make a intro of yourself in the 'new member' section/subforum, what's your goal, age etc ?

A lot of it is Totally overkill, that's just my opinion.... First run Just Test, it is powerful and see how you react to it, so you learn how to deal with it's effects and side effects.

Maybe I overlooked it - but I would definitely have a AI + a SERM on hand

 

[thejumpingsheep]

Never mind the roids for a second... Do you actually have experience with all those peptides and drugs? To me, there is too much going on unless you are experienced with them.

For any peptide, drug or roid, one at a time is sound advice. Give each one time to saturate, then pull appropriate bloods to see what they did. Then add more if everything is ok.

 

[Sustanon]

I’m going to be straight with you: this is an extremely heavy plan for a first cycle, and way beyond what anyone should be running without years of experience. Not trying to judge, just giving you the perspective you’d get from people who have been doing this long-term.

A first cycle should not include Anadrol, Tren, Mast, or a whole list of peptides and experimental nootropics. Most guys start with nothing more than 300–500 mg/week of Test for 10-12 weeks so they can actually learn how their body responds before stacking multiple harsh compounds. You’re jumping straight into some of the strongest hepatotoxic and neurotoxic drugs in existence.
Most experienced users avoid Tren entirely until much later, and even then they respect it. Adding Anadrol on top of high Test and Tren is also guaranteed to annihilate your lipids and spike your blood pressure. No supplement list fixes that.

Not trying to gatekeep! just trying to stop you from nuking your health before you’ve even learned the basics.

 

[SSorm]

I’m going to be straight with you: this is an extremely heavy plan for a first cycle, and way beyond what anyone should be running without years of experience. Not trying to judge, just giving you the perspective you’d get from people who have been doing this long-term.

A first cycle should not include Anadrol, Tren, Mast, or a whole list of peptides and experimental nootropics. Most guys start with nothing more than 300–500 mg/week of Test for 10-12 weeks so they can actually learn how their body responds before stacking multiple harsh compounds. You’re jumping straight into some of the strongest hepatotoxic and neurotoxic drugs in existence.
Most experienced users avoid Tren entirely until much later, and even then they respect it. Adding Anadrol on top of high Test and Tren is also guaranteed to annihilate your lipids and spike your blood pressure. No supplement list fixes that.

Not trying to gatekeep! just trying to stop you from nuking your health before you’ve even learned the basics.

Yeah it has test for 10 weeks, the other stuff is for week 20 and over, examples of what i should take. Im going very extreme because i want to do it. I was just wondering whether i was missing important ancillaries or something to help here.

 

[SSorm]

That's quite the list for a first cycle! Maybe start with just the test and see how you react before adding everything else. It's easier to adjust when you know what's causing what.

Yes the first 10 weeks is test only

 

[IndividualMan]

Cerebrolysin 5ml EOD IM

are you repeatedly getting hit in the head? Boxer?

Telmisartan 180mg
Cialis 5-10mg
Ezetimibe 5mg
Bempedoic acid 180mg
Pitavastatin 2mg (if lipids bad)
Eplerenone 25mg
Nebivolol 5mg
Pentoxifylline 400mg
HCG 200 IU EOD

what is you Blood pressure?
180mgs telmisartan is heavy. thats 2&1/4 tabs a day.
rethink this stuff.

Urolithin A 500mg, Astaxanthin 12mg, Mg bisglycinate 1g, Taurine 5g, Sulforaphane 150mg, NAC 600mg

good stuff. triple the NAC.

Base(First 10 weeks):
Testosterone (400-600mg/week, cruise on TRT dose between blasts)

Blast options (20 weeks):
400mg Test + 50mg Anadrol daily + 25-50mg Tren (±200mg Mast)
600mg Test + 50mg Anadrol daily
Cutting: 250mg Test + 100mg Tren + 25mg Anadrol

absolute dogpiss.
just slowly up the test throughout the 20 weeks.
go from 250 up to the 600 is you really want to.
Run the anadrol for the last 4-6 weeks, but only on training days.
Either leave the tren, or run it low dose besides the Adrol during the last 4-6 weeks (pin every day if using ace)

use a quick ester (E, Cyp, Isocap, whatever) for the test.


also, get yourself some exemestane.


Or, redo your entire stack and just use test+ an AI. Probably the thing that does most of the heavy lifting early on.

 

[Sustanon]

Yeah it has test for 10 weeks, the other stuff is for week 20 and over, examples of what i should take. Im going very extreme because i want to do it. I was just wondering whether i was missing important ancillaries or something to help here.

I get what you’re saying, but the issue isn’t when you’re planning to add the extreme stuff, it’s that you’re structuring your whole long-term plan around compounds that most people don’t even touch until they have a few cycles under their belt. Even if you only run Test for the first 10 weeks, you’re still setting yourself up to jump straight from “beginner” to “multiple harsh orals + Tren + peptides + nootropics” with zero transition.

If you want to go extreme, that’s your choice, but going extreme safely still requires understanding how you react to the basics first. Without that, you won’t know what’s causing what when side effects hit, and that makes fixing problems way harder.

As far as ancillaries
Your list is already massive. If anything, you’re over-stacking drugs that overlap in function. The bigger issue isn’t that you’re missing something, it’s that you’re trying to outrun the side effects of compounds that will wreck lipids, BP, and neurochemistry no matter what you take with them.

So to answer your question directly:
You’re not missing ancillaries, you’re missing data and experience.
That’s what keeps people safe when things get heavy.

 

[IndividualMan]

I get what you’re saying, but the issue isn’t when you’re planning to add the extreme stuff, it’s that you’re structuring your whole long-term plan around compounds that most people don’t even touch until they have a few cycles under their belt. Even if you only run Test for the first 10 weeks, you’re still setting yourself up to jump straight from “beginner” to “multiple harsh orals + Tren + peptides + nootropics” with zero transition.

If you want to go extreme, that’s your choice, but going extreme safely still requires understanding how you react to the basics first. Without that, you won’t know what’s causing what when side effects hit, and that makes fixing problems way harder.

As far as ancillaries
Your list is already massive. If anything, you’re over-stacking drugs that overlap in function. The bigger issue isn’t that you’re missing something, it’s that you’re trying to outrun the side effects of compounds that will wreck lipids, BP, and neurochemistry no matter what you take with them.

So to answer your question directly:
You’re not missing ancillaries, you’re missing data and experience.
That’s what keeps people safe when things get heavy.

THIS.