dizzleskiiiii
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Anavar is for cutting and dbol for bulking correct?
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Anabolic Steroids
First cycle advice for a leaner look with muscle growth
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dizzleskiiiii
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Since this is my first cycle, I’m sure there might be some trail and error, and I want to minimize those possibilities as much as possible by asking a lot of “what you guys call dumb” questions here
I want to do a lower dose first cycle
Would it be more viable to go
Week 1-12 250m/week test e
And if I’m feeling good, no sides,
Then add
Week 6/8-12 50mg Anavar daily for cutting
I want to do a lower dose first cycle
Would it be more viable to go
Week 1-12 250m/week test e
And if I’m feeling good, no sides,
Then add
Week 6/8-12 50mg Anavar daily for cutting
Steroids are for growing. Dbol will give a softer more watery look, anavar will give a harder leaner look
dizzleskiiiii
New Member
Perfect, that’s what I’m looking for, a leaner look. As well as strength increase
Will go with var then
Legit var gives insane strength gains!
dizzleskiiiii
New Member
Fucking stoked to get this started
barbell001
Member
Personally I would just go for 12 weeks of Test E at 500mg/wk pinned twice a week. Get use to that first and any sides that you experience on Test and how to deal with them. You will get huge strength on this compared to being natty - think about it, on natty levels you are doing well to get 49mg Test per week assuming 7mg a day, you are now hitting that 10 fold!!
Take this from me - Doing Dbol only with no Test will be great for about 3 to 4 weeks then you will begin to feel like shit as your stomach lining and liver begin to get pissed off with you. I did exactly this as my first ever cycle and then like a dickhead I didn't do any PCT as I never knew you had to!!! I ended up weaker than I was before I started the Dbol in no time at all. Do the Test only cycle first then Test and Dbol or Test and NPP as your second cycle.
I love Dbol as much as the next person, but all that size and strength literally disappears as soon as you stop it - with long acting Test it lingers for much longer on you once you are off gear.
Take this from me - Doing Dbol only with no Test will be great for about 3 to 4 weeks then you will begin to feel like shit as your stomach lining and liver begin to get pissed off with you. I did exactly this as my first ever cycle and then like a dickhead I didn't do any PCT as I never knew you had to!!! I ended up weaker than I was before I started the Dbol in no time at all. Do the Test only cycle first then Test and Dbol or Test and NPP as your second cycle.
I love Dbol as much as the next person, but all that size and strength literally disappears as soon as you stop it - with long acting Test it lingers for much longer on you once you are off gear.
dizzleskiiiii
New Member
Thank you! Will definitely take this tip to heart. I appreciate this
“low dose” first cycle would be the 250 test only. My first cycle was 280 test only and it was awesome! After your first cycle you will probably be looking to add more compounds or at least up to trying new things. There’s zero need to rush this game. Take your time and enjoy the journey.
dizzleskiiiii
New Member
perfect, this is exactly what I want to hear!
I'll start with test e first and see how my body reacts, and see how I like this cycle.
Its a little intimidating doing research and seeing other bros doing crazy cycles, and their cycle lists are 2 pages long ( exaggerating here)
I just want something very simple, yet effective.
I appreciate these suggestions guys
dizzleskiiiii
New Member
Will I need a PCT for this 12 week test e only cycle?
PCT for Week 12-16?
Or just see how my body is after the cycle?
PCT for Week 12-16?
Or just see how my body is after the cycle?
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TheLittleShop
Subscriber
Forget what everyone else says, if you wanna oral only cycle to begin with - get your hands on methenolone acetate (Primo Ace orally available). Take advantage of a source here with high quality of said hormone. Can be very easy to find
Get ahold of the raws and cap or make your own solution.
50mg to begin with and can slowly ramp up to even 200mg per day. You’ll LOVE it. And thank me later when your body isn’t experiencing such sides from Anavar dbol Anadrol tbol etc
You won’t have to had shitty bloodwork to deal with or much of a PCT either if anything. Won’t bloat you, won’t make your joints ache. Just make you strong and grow muscle
Get ahold of the raws and cap or make your own solution.
50mg to begin with and can slowly ramp up to even 200mg per day. You’ll LOVE it. And thank me later when your body isn’t experiencing such sides from Anavar dbol Anadrol tbol etc
You won’t have to had shitty bloodwork to deal with or much of a PCT either if anything. Won’t bloat you, won’t make your joints ache. Just make you strong and grow muscle
Unless you plan on pinning for life and doing a blast and cruise schedule then yes, PCT after every cycle.
Rido
Subscriber
I personally wouldnt do 500mg a week at all for a beginner. he says he is at 15-17% bodyfat. Everytime I hear someone state their BF. I add 3-5% on top of that.
Shit, I dont even wanna run 500mg a week and I went as high as 600.
Also OP. What is your training history? how long have you been lifting?
lukiss96
Member
Come on man, dht oral only cycle?
Besides primo ace is one of the most expensive shit to take...
dizzleskiiiii
New Member
Im going to stick with 250mg a week for 12 weeks!
my bf % was from a year go.
Im 195lbs, been training very regularly for 1.5 years, around 3-4 days a week. These past 6 months, been doing a very consistent 6 days a week
hudson98
Banned
lukuss is spot on, how you train and eat are 10x more important than this little cycle. plus your coming off so your at a disadvantage vs people that stay on. for someone thats coming off training and diet are your most powerful tools not 12 weeks of puffing up
TheLittleShop
Subscriber
Not really if you have a decent job and know where to look.
You can run 1,000mg primo e every week for over a year for under $400
Primo a is the same $, so 10g primo a $110
You take 200mg per day that’s 12.5 weeks straight of 200mg every day. And yes it’s amazing.
Primo is safe for female just doesn’t mean it’s weak for make. 1,400mg primo a oral with test and gh is a wonderful time.
So OP? Can you afford to eat $2.20usd per day worth of primo a? The safest most bang for your buck hormone there is other than test or Tren (Tren toxic, test is advised but if you only want oral okay okay)
If you have ANY side effects it will be bald, you can have bloodwork and get prescribed finasteride. This is absolutely a first timer oral only hormone - Methenolone Acetate
That’s all
Rido
Subscriber
They actually talk quite a bit about some dht only. 6 weeks of anavar is actually a popular one I believe. not that I would endorse it, I find it kind of lame.
acetate jake
Member
Idk why people still consider PCT when stepping into the realm of AAS
but if u insist,
Test 300-500mg a week for no less than 12 weeks. Make it 16 tbh.
Then at week 16 and your done thinking like a fruitcake (due to high Test lolol)
you then commit to Blast n Cruise lifestyle
Most importantly, USE THIS CYCLE TO DIAL IN YOUR A.I. USAGE
P.S. Anavar thrown in the last 4-6 weeks if your feeling good/healthy
but if u insist,
Test 300-500mg a week for no less than 12 weeks. Make it 16 tbh.
Then at week 16 and your done thinking like a fruitcake (due to high Test lolol)
you then commit to Blast n Cruise lifestyle
Most importantly, USE THIS CYCLE TO DIAL IN YOUR A.I. USAGE
P.S. Anavar thrown in the last 4-6 weeks if your feeling good/healthy
