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Female Bloods: 8 years of Var + Tren

ChemBB

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Wanted to show bloodwork from a female who has been using Anavar consistently for the past 8 years.
Tren E @ 30mg for the majority of the last 4-5 years, with a small number of few-months break.

There were periods of Dbol use, as well as an Sdrol experiment, but in general it was Tren + Var, or just Tren.
About 2/3rds of the time on Tren, Anavar was run @ 20-35mg.

Recently, Test E @ 25mg E5D + E2 Cyp @ 5mg E5D was added, and Tren was removed in July.
  • Test E 25mg E5D
  • E2 Cyp 5mg E5D
  • Var 25mg

You'll notice some of the usual AAS markers below are out-of-range.
Mildly high LDL, moderate erythropoiesis (RBC/Hemoglobin/Hematocrit, Iron markers)
ALT/AST/GGT are fine, no other markers are particularly alarming.

For almost a decade of near-continuous oral Var usage and 5 years of Tren, it's not too bad.

NOTE: BLOODS DRAWN 3 DAYS AFTER LAST PIN

Hormone Panel
MarkerValueReference Range
Testosterone, Total, MS2612-45 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free58.90.2-5.0 pg/mL
Testosterone, Bioavailable133.90.5-8.5 ng/dL
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin1317-124 nmol/L
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive, LC/MS436Follicular: 39-375 pg/mL
FSH<0.7Follicular: 2.5-10.2 mIU/mL
LH0.2Follicular: 1.9-12.5 mIU/mL
Progesterone<0.5Follicular: <1.0 ng/mL
Prolactin14.03.0-30.0 ng/mL
TSH0.790.40-4.50 mIU/L
T4, Free1.50.8-1.8 ng/dL
T3, Free4.12.3-4.2 pg/mL
Cortisol, Total15.34.0-22.0 mcg/dL (8 a.m.)

Lipid Panel
MarkerValueReference Range
Cholesterol, Total179<200 mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol43≥50 mg/dL
Triglycerides50<150 mg/dL
LDL-Cholesterol (calc)122<100 mg/dL
Chol/HDLC Ratio (calc)4.2<5.0
Non HDL Cholesterol (calc)136<130 mg/dL
Apolipoprotein B93<90 mg/dL
Lipoprotein (a)<10<75 nmol/L
hs-CRP0.5<1.0 mg/L (Optimal)

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP) & Liver
MarkerValueReference Range
Glucose8165-99 mg/dL
Hemoglobin A1c4.5<5.7%
Urea Nitrogen (BUN)67-25 mg/dL
Creatinine0.710.50-0.97 mg/dL
eGFR114≥60 mL/min/1.73m2
BUN/Creatinine Ratio (calc)86-22
Sodium137135-146 mmol/L
Potassium3.73.5-5.3 mmol/L
Chloride10098-110 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide2620-32 mmol/L
Calcium10.38.6-10.2 mg/dL
Protein, Total7.46.1-8.1 g/dL
Albumin5.03.6-5.1 g/dL
Globulin (calc)2.41.9-3.7 g/dL
Albumin/Globulin Ratio (calc)2.11.0-2.5
Bilirubin, Total1.10.2-1.2 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase4131-125 U/L
AST2010-30 U/L
ALT316-29 U/L
GGT113-50 U/L

Complete Blood Count (CBC)
MarkerValueReference Range
White Blood Cell Count5.33.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
Red Blood Cell Count5.303.80-5.10 Million/uL
Hemoglobin16.711.7-15.5 g/dL
Hematocrit51.135.0-45.0%
MCV96.480.0-100.0 fL
MCH31.527.0-33.0 pg
MCHC32.732.0-36.0 g/dL
RDW13.911.0-15.0%
Platelet Count221140-400 Thousand/uL
MPV10.67.5-12.5 fL
Absolute Neutrophils34031500-7800 cells/uL
Absolute Lymphocytes1267850-3900 cells/uL
Absolute Monocytes578200-950 cells/uL
Absolute Eosinophils4215-500 cells/uL
Absolute Basophils110-200 cells/uL

Iron Panel
MarkerValueReference Range
Iron, Total17740-190 mcg/dL
Iron Binding Capacity (calc)522250-450 mcg/dL
% Saturation (calc)3416-45%
Ferritin7716-154 ng/mL
Transferrin385188-341 mg/dL

Vitamins & Other Markers
MarkerValueReference Range
Insulin5.7≤18.4 uIU/mL
Magnesium, RBC4.94.0-6.4 mg/dL
Vitamin D, 25-OH, Total10030-100 ng/mL
Vitamin B12715200-1100 pg/mL
Zinc8560-130 mcg/dL
 
thanks for sharing.

have she done any brain scan prior and after? thats what ill be most worried about on tren although idk if i will ever be taking under 200mg-300mg tren
 
vegetable69 said:
25mg daily for 8 years? and 5 years of tren? female?
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Yes, 20-35mg Var daily for 8 years, with a few months break every so often
And then Tren E 30mg for the last 5 years

vegetable69 said:
post physique please
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She's very private, don't think she'll agree

Her physique is not impressive, lots of hereditary health issues and poor training/AAS response genetics.

The Tren was less for physique and more because she says that's the compound she feels the best on -- Tren + Dbol.

vapor77 said:
her libido must be wild.
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She says it was for the first few years, but chronic low E2 from no aromatizing gear killed it.

After starting E2 Cyp + Test E, she said it improved tremendously.
vapor77 said:
Any virilization?
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Yes, primarily clit growth. It's massive.

There was some deepening of the voice, but that happened in the first year and hasn't changed since.

Surprisingly, no hair growth or facial masculinization. She says she got worse bodyhair growth from hormonal birth control than AAS.
 
ChemBB said:
Wanted to show bloodwork from a female who has been using Anavar consistently for the past 8 years.
Tren E @ 30mg for the majority of the last 4-5 years, with a small number of few-months break.

There were periods of Dbol use, as well as an Sdrol experiment, but in general it was Tren + Var, or just Tren.
About 2/3rds of the time on Tren, Anavar was run @ 20-35mg.

Recently, Test E @ 25mg E5D + E2 Cyp @ 5mg E5D was added, and Tren was removed in July.
  • Test E 25mg E5D
  • E2 Cyp 5mg E5D
  • Var 25mg

You'll notice some of the usual AAS markers below are out-of-range.
Mildly high LDL, moderate erythropoiesis (RBC/Hemoglobin/Hematocrit, Iron markers)
ALT/AST/GGT are fine, no other markers are particularly alarming.

For almost a decade of near-continuous oral Var usage and 5 years of Tren, it's not too bad.

NOTE: BLOODS DRAWN 3 DAYS AFTER LAST PIN

Hormone Panel
MarkerValueReference Range
Testosterone, Total, MS2612-45 ng/dL
Testosterone, Free58.90.2-5.0 pg/mL
Testosterone, Bioavailable133.90.5-8.5 ng/dL
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin1317-124 nmol/L
Estradiol, Ultrasensitive, LC/MS436Follicular: 39-375 pg/mL
FSH<0.7Follicular: 2.5-10.2 mIU/mL
LH0.2Follicular: 1.9-12.5 mIU/mL
Progesterone<0.5Follicular: <1.0 ng/mL
Prolactin14.03.0-30.0 ng/mL
TSH0.790.40-4.50 mIU/L
T4, Free1.50.8-1.8 ng/dL
T3, Free4.12.3-4.2 pg/mL
Cortisol, Total15.34.0-22.0 mcg/dL (8 a.m.)

Lipid Panel
MarkerValueReference Range
Cholesterol, Total179<200 mg/dL
HDL Cholesterol43≥50 mg/dL
Triglycerides50<150 mg/dL
LDL-Cholesterol (calc)122<100 mg/dL
Chol/HDLC Ratio (calc)4.2<5.0
Non HDL Cholesterol (calc)136<130 mg/dL
Apolipoprotein B93<90 mg/dL
Lipoprotein (a)<10<75 nmol/L
hs-CRP0.5<1.0 mg/L (Optimal)

Comprehensive Metabolic Panel (CMP) & Liver
MarkerValueReference Range
Glucose8165-99 mg/dL
Hemoglobin A1c4.5<5.7%
Urea Nitrogen (BUN)67-25 mg/dL
Creatinine0.710.50-0.97 mg/dL
eGFR114≥60 mL/min/1.73m2
BUN/Creatinine Ratio (calc)86-22
Sodium137135-146 mmol/L
Potassium3.73.5-5.3 mmol/L
Chloride10098-110 mmol/L
Carbon Dioxide2620-32 mmol/L
Calcium10.38.6-10.2 mg/dL
Protein, Total7.46.1-8.1 g/dL
Albumin5.03.6-5.1 g/dL
Globulin (calc)2.41.9-3.7 g/dL
Albumin/Globulin Ratio (calc)2.11.0-2.5
Bilirubin, Total1.10.2-1.2 mg/dL
Alkaline Phosphatase4131-125 U/L
AST2010-30 U/L
ALT316-29 U/L
GGT113-50 U/L

Complete Blood Count (CBC)
MarkerValueReference Range
White Blood Cell Count5.33.8-10.8 Thousand/uL
Red Blood Cell Count5.303.80-5.10 Million/uL
Hemoglobin16.711.7-15.5 g/dL
Hematocrit51.135.0-45.0%
MCV96.480.0-100.0 fL
MCH31.527.0-33.0 pg
MCHC32.732.0-36.0 g/dL
RDW13.911.0-15.0%
Platelet Count221140-400 Thousand/uL
MPV10.67.5-12.5 fL
Absolute Neutrophils34031500-7800 cells/uL
Absolute Lymphocytes1267850-3900 cells/uL
Absolute Monocytes578200-950 cells/uL
Absolute Eosinophils4215-500 cells/uL
Absolute Basophils110-200 cells/uL

Iron Panel
MarkerValueReference Range
Iron, Total17740-190 mcg/dL
Iron Binding Capacity (calc)522250-450 mcg/dL
% Saturation (calc)3416-45%
Ferritin7716-154 ng/mL
Transferrin385188-341 mg/dL

Vitamins & Other Markers
MarkerValueReference Range
Insulin5.7≤18.4 uIU/mL
Magnesium, RBC4.94.0-6.4 mg/dL
Vitamin D, 25-OH, Total10030-100 ng/mL
Vitamin B12715200-1100 pg/mL
Zinc8560-130 mcg/dL
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That's not a woman anymore.
 
ChemBB said:
No, not sure what circumstances would warrant a brain scan
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again idk if such low dosages have a effect.

tren has a very profound neurotoxic effect for people who run it for longer times.

few years of tren cycles for me and atleast 12-14x that females dose ofc with small breaks inbetween have 100% made my memory kinda of bad. and i've become a little slower in my speech. part reason i stopped was because i started mumbling alot on it.

lucky the damage was like around 50%, and when i jumped off it recovered back to 95% although never the same.

tren is known to be neurotoxic but not much human studies on it if any at all on that specific subject.

running tren long term i would defiently get my organs + brain screened yearly
 
ChemBB said:
Yes, primarily clit growth. It's massive.

There was some deepening of the voice, but that happened in the first year and hasn't changed since.

Surprisingly, no hair growth or facial masculinization. She says she got worse bodyhair growth from hormonal birth control than AAS.
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What about hair loss/thinning?
 
ChemBB said:
No, not sure what circumstances would warrant a brain scan

It would be interesting data though, for sure

But even then, I'm not certain that 30mg Tren a week would be useful data, given that men don't run doses that low
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Thank you for clarifying the injectable doses were weekly and oral doses were daily.

I always enjoy the fantastic effort and detail you put into your posts. I hope you are feeling well.
 
DoubleDeez said:
What about hair loss/thinning?
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"I never experienced hair loss due to AAS. I only had hair loss when I started on birth control to try to get my estrogen up"

craigdt said:
Is she happy with her gear choices?
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"Yeah I'm happy with my gear choices. There's been no lasting negatives or anything. I actually really enjoy the clit growth, having no periods is a big thing for me since they are so debilitating so I feel like AAS gave me a lot of my life back regardless of the source. I also like the libido boost from tren in particular. Honestly a little disappointed that I won't be on tren while following my coach's regimen but whatever gets results safely. Gotta give it a shot and see how I respond."

IndividualMan said:
Man. Did she ever take a step back and think: maybe this isn't for me?
I know I would.
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Her arms are bigger than a lot of men, she's just not "huge" by female BB standards. When I said her physique is not impressive, I more meant if you were expecting an IFBB competitor.

"To answer the question: I don't really give up on things. I might have to move stuff around and just deal with things being less than ideal, but it's retarded to just straight up give up because stuff is hard. Being so busy, having a sleep disorder, problems eating, and a history of bad coaching just put me where it's kinda ass, but I do what I can with what I got and I hope with an actual coach now I will make some genuine progress. The way I see it is that the time will pass regardless so I should use that time to try to reach my goals. No reason to give up unless I'm actually paralyzed or dying lol"

She doesn't want to compete -- she just wants to be big (not lean).
Her goal body is something along the lines of Natasha Aughey in bulk mode:

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View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DE8OUnYSBgI/?hl=en
 
To each their own, I can appreciate the physique but I wouldn't want to walk around in it. The amount of compounds makes more sense now if that's the goal (although, if it's been that many years shouldn't she be at her goal?)
 
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