Feel nothing on 6ius

Do a hgh blood test, here cost 5 dollars, you will pin 10 ui intramuscular and 2, 3 hrs later go to lab to do the bloodwork.. Will cost much less than janos
Trying to find one in the uk cant seem to find one i have posted my recent blood results on hgh in the blood serum part if u could check it out pls :)
 
I know you guys will berate me for being dumb but im already diabetic :) i've hopped off it anyways will do more testing and get my blood sugar in tact
You would be far from the first diabetic I’ve met to fuck with hgh. I hope you manage your bg seriously while rolling on this. Hop on a glp1 too if you haven’t.
 
Fuck man your story is more interesting by the post. That‘a pretty crappy igf1 for your age and the exact opposite of what I would have expected you to answer. I really hope you report back with your igf1. Seems like you rolled the genetic lotto with handling drugs if you’re processing all that gh well.
Yes i will report back as soon as i do the bloodtest, i am cutting calories so that may lowered my igf1 too, idk
 
You would be far from the first diabetic I’ve met to fuck with hgh. I hope you manage your bg seriously while rolling on this. Hop on a glp1 too if you haven’t.
Yeah im already on reta bit of a low dose tho ibr i might up it to 5mg or even more, i already take 2g of metformin might add more stuff in
 
What was your starting igf1? Are you younger? Interesting if you’re not having sides if it’s processing well in your liver. Very lucky.

Younger people have such high endogenous pulses of GH release and an abundance of receptors, they seem to be able to absorb a ton of GH without sides. Ironically, with fewer receptors, you become more sensitive to GH with age, and therefore it’s easier to end up with sides.

This also makes the benefit of GH in your 20s a lot less significant than at older ages. It’s mostly just replacing what they already had,
 
Younger people have such high endogenous pulses of GH release and an abundance of receptors, they seem to be able to absorb a ton of GH without sides. Ironically, with fewer receptors, you become more sensitive to GH with age, and therefore it’s easier to end up with sides.

This also makes the benefit of GH in your 20s a lot less significant than at older ages. It’s mostly just replacing what they already had,
wait couldnt you offset this by simply taking more? e.g 4iu would be equivalent to 12ius for ppl in their 20's
 
wait couldnt you offset this by simply taking more? e.g 4iu would be equivalent to 12ius for ppl in their 20's

Sure, though you still have to limit IGF-1 to under Z score 3 or face the risks that presents. You could likely max out safe IGF and not experience any sides, which is cool, but the thing is, as a younger person, all you really have to gain are the modest anabolic effects of GH. The other stuff, skin turnover, fast healing etc, are likely already present and won’t improve from where they are. You’ll have to decide if it’s worth it.

Baseline IGF-1, and how much GH it takes to get to Z 2-3 should help make that decision.

At that point, 6+ IUs, you’ve also got to start thinking about testing IGF binding proteins levels too, because huge doses of exogenous GH, even if you’re keeping IGF-1 physiological (Z 2) or modestly supraphysiological (Z 3), is going to ramp up those IGFBPs and could result in lower bioavailable IGF than you started with,

It’s a lot to manage, and the higher the dose goes, the more complicated it gets.

Certainly more complicated for a 22 year old to figure out if 10ius to get to Z 2.5 is worth the trouble and expense vs a 45 year old using 3ius to get to Z 2.5 who sees and feels all kinds of improvements the young guy won’t, doesn’t have to worry about IGFBPs at that relatively low rHGH dose, and gets 3x as many doses out of the same kit the 22 year old is using.
 
Sure, though you still have to limit IGF-1 to under Z score 3 or face the risks that presents. You could likely max out safe IGF and not experience any sides, which is cool, but the thing is, as a younger person, all you really have to gain are the modest anabolic effects of GH. The other stuff, skin turnover, fast healing etc, are likely already present and won’t improve from where they are. You’ll have to decide if it’s worth it.

Baseline IGF-1, and how much GH it takes to get to Z 2-3 should help make that decision.

At that point, 6+ IUs, you’ve also got to start thinking about testing IGF binding proteins levels too, because huge doses of exogenous GH, even if you’re keeping IGF-1 physiological (Z 2) or modestly supraphysiological (Z 3), is going to ramp up those IGFBPs and could result in lower bioavailable IGF than you started with,

It’s a lot to manage, and the higher the dose goes, the more complicated it gets.

Certainly more complicated for a 22 year old to figure out if 10ius to get to Z 2.5 is worth the trouble and expense vs a 45 year old using 3ius to get to Z 2.5 who sees and feels all kinds of improvements the young guy won’t, doesn’t have to worry about IGFBPs at that relatively low rHGH dose, and gets 3x as many doses out of the same kit the 22 year old is using.
if i continue reading these forums can i hope to one day have the amount of knowledge you have, or should i be doing extra stuff like taking classes and getting a specific degree?

basically, why r u like this?! (in a respectful way)
 
Sure, though you still have to limit IGF-1 to under Z score 3 or face the risks that presents. You could likely max out safe IGF and not experience any sides, which is cool, but the thing is, as a younger person, all you really have to gain are the modest anabolic effects of GH. The other stuff, skin turnover, fast healing etc, are likely already present and won’t improve from where they are. You’ll have to decide if it’s worth it.

Baseline IGF-1, and how much GH it takes to get to Z 2-3 should help make that decision.

At that point, 6+ IUs, you’ve also got to start thinking about testing IGF binding proteins levels too, because huge doses of exogenous GH, even if you’re keeping IGF-1 physiological (Z 2) or modestly supraphysiological (Z 3), is going to ramp up those IGFBPs and could result in lower bioavailable IGF than you started with,

It’s a lot to manage, and the higher the dose goes, the more complicated it gets.

Certainly more complicated for a 22 year old to figure out if 10ius to get to Z 2.5 is worth the trouble and expense vs a 45 year old using 3ius to get to Z 2.5 who sees and feels all kinds of improvements the young guy won’t, doesn’t have to worry about IGFBPs at that relatively low rHGH dose, and gets 3x as many doses out of the same kit the 22 year old is using.
I see very interesting a lot of things i didn't know, Thanks man ig ill try to weight out the positives from the negatives and go from there
 
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