EU and UK - Best Sources For Test, Var and Primo

[TRT_Training_Hard]

Hi All,

I am new here and could use some helpful advice please.

I am ordering for my first blast. I am on TRT daily micro doses HCG and Test Cyp (100mg) along with 6.25mg (1/4 pill) Exemestane every 3 days. I am looking at adding on top of my TRT:
1) 300mg of test cyp/enanthate
2) 50mg Anavar or possibly Primo for the last 6 weeks.

I am hoping to avoid excess bloating and puffiness which is why I am considering Anavar or primo halfway through the 12 week blast.

My goal is to try and gain 10 to 15lbs of solid muscle while dropping from around 17%BF down to around 12/13%. I know this is ambitious.

I have been doing research here and I have read a large amount of the Hilma Biocare and Pharmacom and both seem to be good options. Any other EU or UK sources that have been proven to be highly reliable and verified by testing?

To give back to the community, I will be testing each item ordered with Janoshik and sharing the results.

Thank you

 

[wildfuchs]

I recommend Hilma for injectables since they lab test all their gear and the sesame oil is the smoothest I've tried, no PIP from anything.

For 50mg Anavar I'd go with PharmasourceEU once they have their shipping sorted out, quality & price of their orals are the best.

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

I recommend Hilma for injectables since they lab test all their gear and the sesame oil is the smoothest I've tried, no PIP from anything.

For 50mg Anavar I'd go with PharmasourceEU once they have their shipping sorted out, quality & price of their orals are the best.

Thanks for chiming in Bud.

May I ask what PIP is please? What is the benefit of sesame oil?

Is their the 10mg Var good quality? I wouldn’t mind buying that if it high quality.

Thanks again

 

[wildfuchs]

Thanks for chiming in Bud.

May I ask what PIP is please? What is the benefit of sesame oil?

Is their the 10mg Var good quality? I wouldn’t mind buying that if it high quality.

Thanks again

post injection pain, can be from certain compounds, concentration or carrier oils.

if by quality you mean correctly dosed, yes, Hilma's thread contains labwork for most if not all products. there's no really any other "quality" than raws and thus product being properly dosed when it comes to orals.

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

post injection pain, can be from certain compounds, concentration or carrier oils.

if by quality you mean correctly dosed, yes, Hilma's thread contains labwork for most if not all products. there's no really any other "quality" than raws and thus product being properly dosed when it comes to orals.

Thanks

 

[Juris93]

I recommend Hilma for injectables since they lab test all their gear and the sesame oil is the smoothest I've tried, no PIP from anything.

For 50mg Anavar I'd go with PharmasourceEU once they have their shipping sorted out, quality & price of their orals are the best.

i used 50mg var of pharmasource daily for 1 week , then stopped my 5 weeks plan due to quarantine .... was my first time with var but i got something for sure , price is awesome ( 25x 100 tabs )
was using 375mg tren e and 250mg test e from hilma and they are legit for sure , got bloodworks 2 times on hilma and always as expected , same for tbol and aromasin

i tried hilma , pharmasource and ashop ... g2g

 

[little]

First advise to stop micro whoring the hcg

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

First advise to stop micro whoring the hcg

This is my docs protocol. He believes in microdosing and is a top specialist in the UK. Is this bad when blasting?

 

[little]

This is my docs protocol. He believes in microdosing and is a top specialist in the UK. Is this bad when blasting?

Has he been experimenting with PED’s for decades? If so I’ll eat my words. If he got this from the latest studies then he can eat his words

 

[fofo]

i have been on ironanabolics testosterone and aromasin for a few months now, did get bloods done and they came back good
i did post them in the thread
havent tried anything else from them atm

i was on the verge of ordering some more test and possibly primo but think i'll wait until the gym is back open

 

[wildfuchs]

This is my docs protocol. He believes in microdosing and is a top specialist in the UK. Is this bad when blasting?

I'm curious, has he written papers on this or do you know authors/papers/research he bases his beliefs on? Input from the medical community on gear use is always appreciated.

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

I'm curious, has he written papers on this or do you know authors/papers/research he bases his beliefs on? Input from the medical community on gear use is always appreciated.

I will ask him next time I go see him and will gladly report back.

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

Guys,
When blasting on test Cyp or enanthate how long from the first shot does it take to be in effect? Haven’t felt much of anything so far and tomorrow is my 3rd blast shot (day 7) My test C is 100% pharmaceutical grade.

I am blasting with 125mg of test Cyp every 3 days, which is on top of 100mg TRT dose. That comes to 400mg a week once things are in full effect.

also do you count the start of the blast from the first shot or when things are in full effect?

thanks

 

[wildfuchs]

Guys,
When blasting on test Cyp or enanthate how long from the first shot does it take to be in effect? Haven’t felt much of anything so far and tomorrow is my 3rd blast shot (day 7) My test C is 100% pharmaceutical grade.

I am blasting with 125mg of test Cyp every 3 days, which is on top of 100mg TRT dose. That comes to 400mg a week once things are in full effect.

also do you count the start of the blast from the first shot or when things are in full effect?

thanks

effects won't hit like the clock hitting midnight and then it's your birthday, they gradually rise with saturation, which would roughly be 4 weeks for test c. and count what, cycle length? from day of first injection. I'm a bit worried about you asking these extremely basic questions at this point...

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

effects won't hit like the clock hitting midnight and then it's your birthday, they gradually rise with saturation, which would roughly be 4 weeks for test c. and count what, cycle length? from day of first injection. I'm a bit worried about you asking these extremely basic questions at this point...

@wildfuchs Thanks for the concern bud.

I assumed a 12 week cycle was from the day of the first injection but taking around 4 weeks to build up takes serious patience and eats into 1/3 of the cycle which is a bit of a bummer.

I was expecting to turn green with muscles tearing through my clothes by the end of week 2. In all seriousness, I was hoping that by the end of week 1 I would be noticing some serious strength gains. At the moment I am just feeling a bit less lean from likely some water weight and upping my calories to 3,000 from 2,400.

 

[wildfuchs]

@wildfuchs Thanks for the concern bud.

I assumed a 12 week cycle was from the day of the first injection but taking around 4 weeks to build up takes serious patience and eats into 1/3 of the cycle which is a bit of a bummer.

I was expecting to turn green with muscles tearing through my clothes by the end of week 2. In all seriousness, I was hoping that by the end of week 1 I would be noticing some serious strength gains. At the moment I am just feeling a bit less lean from likely some water weight and upping my calories to 3,000 from 2,400.

you don't get it I feel - of course you will gradually get stronger/bigger during saturation as well once your test level surpasses ~1200-1500ng/dl - you can check how long this takes for any esther with any roidcalculator website and your genetic multiplier which you can estimate from your trt dosage and resulting test level.

expecting immediate gains from such a long esther once again suggests you've no idea what you're doing, and 2400-3000 calories sounds you're nowhere near requiring gear to make fast progress.

take this as constructive advice please; take an honest look at your diet, workout structure and work ethic and work on those a lot rather than hoping gear will fix your shortcomings.

 

[TRT_Training_Hard]

you don't get it I feel - of course you will gradually get stronger/bigger during saturation as well once your test level surpasses ~1200-1500ng/dl - you can check how long this takes for any esther with any roidcalculator website and your genetic multiplier which you can estimate from your trt dosage and resulting test level.

expecting immediate gains from such a long esther once again suggests you've no idea what you're doing, and 2400-3000 calories sounds you're nowhere near requiring gear to make fast progress.

take this as constructive advice please; take an honest look at your diet, workout structure and work ethic and work on those a lot rather than hoping gear will fix your shortcomings.

@wildfuchs
Thank you for taking the time to write and give me what I honestly believe to be friendly advice.

My journey has been 5 years long. I was obese at 300lbs. I cut weight through diet and weight lifting and was down to 178lbs in 2 years (tracking all my calories and macros consuming 1800 calories a day). I then dirty bulked for 2 years and went back up to 240lbs (stupid I know) and was decently strong for a guy in his mid/late thirties. I spend the last 12/14 months training harder than I ever have in my life with 4 days a week of weight training (primarily the compound lifts followed by accessory work) and doing BJJ 4/5 times a week and got to 195lbs at around 18%BF at just shy of 40 years old, eating 2,200 calories a day.

I have been spinning my wheels making little strength progress and having been on TRT for a little under a year and having my protocol all ironed out now, I thought why not enjoy a blast and make some solid gains while in isolation, able to eat as much as I would like and lift as much as I like.

One thing I can assure you is my work ethic and diet discipline is very solid. I just want to minimise fat gain while gaining good solid muscle on my blast. If 3,000 calories isn’t enough or if I should be increasing it during the blast, please advise me.

I know I don’t know nearly as much as many of you guys on here and welcome the chance to absorb your knowledge.

I appreciate your advice and any other advice you can give is certainly welcome.

Thanks again man and keep it coming.

 

[Toni72]

@TRT_Training_Hard,
Hello, you have chosen the correct testo dosage. I advise you to educate yourself a little more to better understand saa, and how to use them for your objectives. If you do e3d injections, sustanon was better or testo p with testo cyp. For a faster start you have 3 solutions, inject quick ester, do a frontload, take an oral "dianabol .... '. I hope I have been useful. Read and ask

 

[wildfuchs]

Thanks again man and keep it coming.

I'll get back to this later but I want to urgently let you know that Toni is legitimately mentally retarded and gives advice worse than Trump, so just put him on ignore like everyone else already has.

 

[Toni72]

@wildfuchs,
You are a psychiatrist, well done. What are my mistakes? To start a sustanon or testo p or oral tabs or frontload cycle faster? Say what's wrong? Thank you