This guy has tried everything and had no luck. Normally I say save the Trimix until you hit 60, but since he is getting desperate, why not Trimix?
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Ghoul
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If his ED isn't caused by the usual vascular disease, he could end up with priapism.
The two times I used Trimix, The second time just 1/3 the dose I was told to use, I got priapism, The antidote didn't work. Ended up in the. emergency room having the blood drawn out of my dick with 18g needles by two doctors, for over an hour. Suck out blood. inject more antidote. suck out more blood. Black and blue cock for a month both times.
Had a hospital tell me to get back into my car (barely able to walk with an enormous erection) and go to another hospital to meet on call urologist team. Was in extreme pain after 6 hours of constant erection:
My ED was due to a combo of minor nerve damage and the resulting psychogenic ED from not being able to get hard for months.
Because the "plumbing" was fine, any amount of trimix was too much.
The second time they put me under with fentanyl thank god.
So unless he has severe "conventional" ED, priapism is not a risk worth taking,
xrayphoton13
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I didn't read the whole thing but stop taking the proviron. It's not for pct and can lower shbg which could make your ed worse if your shbg is crushed
This is why you always start with the lowest dosage possible. Usually this is in a doctors office. The first time I used it on y own I was "holy snit, this hard on isn't going away" LOL. It finally did after 2.5 hours.
I first learned of it quite a few years ago but I swore to myself I would not touch it until I hit 60.
Also, if your estrogen is too low that will definitely cause ED.
HUGE McBIGLARGE
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Did you cure your ED? If not, what treatments you doing?
Is there a proposed mechanism behind the theory that low SHBG causes sexual dysfunction?
Ghoul
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The underlying nerve problem resolved after a couple of months, but once you start thinking you may never get an erection again, you can induce psychogenic ED. I had a top urologist tell me that multiple times, told me it was common and specialized psychological therapy, a kind of "confidence building" treatment was how to overcome it. TBH I didn't believe it. I wasn't even getting morning wood. It *had* to be physical.
Anyway after the trimix horror, I found PT-141. It makes you horny, psychologically, whether you want it or not. Which resulted in major, extremely sensitive erections,
After a few sessions of that, whatever mental block that had been causing the ED disappeared, and I never had an issue again,
I keep using PT on occasion because it has a way of making orgasms as intense as your first. The pillow biting, screaming, lightning flash brief blackout type.
Unfortunately the 6'months or so without regular hard ons caused some scar tissue buildup. Keep that in mind. If you go any amount of time without at least one erection a day, scar tissue will replace erectile tissue from lack of blood flow, so don't wait. The effect on me was minor, and there are meds to dissolve the scar tissue, but it can go too far and cause serious permanent damage.
steveboomer
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I have some sublingual tablets that are 20 mg cialis, 100 iu oxytocin, 2000mcg bremalanotide acetate that work pretty good. I need to try the PT-141.
If I get erection quality or libido issues on cycle I cut out everything except test for awhile, stop taking any kind of ai, and bump up my test dosage and that seems to do the trick.
If I get erection quality or libido issues on cycle I cut out everything except test for awhile, stop taking any kind of ai, and bump up my test dosage and that seems to do the trick.
The psychological problem can be devastating. I am just lucky that after so many years of being so horny, I just don't give 2 snits, LOL.
HUGE McBIGLARGE
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Since when is bremelanotide sublingual?
And what test dose “seems to do the trick” for you?
Ghoul
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I was going to mention the bremelanotide doesn't work other than via injection, oxytocin is another "doesn't do anything in real life" compound, but neither's harmful and the cialis certainly works.
Only harm here is paying way more than the 10¢ per pill the Cialis costs from India pharma.
mikeh1998
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What’s your point here, 350 ng/dL is within range. Nothing about that level points to low T induced ED.
These results don’t make sense, what units is total testosterone in? It’s certainly not nmol/L.
HUGE McBIGLARGE
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“In range” means nothing.
T-mediated erectile function is capped when additional agonism of androgen receptors cannot stimulate further pro-erectile effects.
Androgen receptor sensitivity is more variable between individuals than total testosterone.
Ain’t there that article on this site that says that there is no upper limit of the pro-sexual effects of testosterone?
Found it. Anabolic-androgenic steroid effects on libido (Part 1: Men)
“Interestingly, the evidence strongly suggests the absence of a theoretical upper limit, or ceiling, for behavioral effects of androgen. Evidence from normal healthy men (the population for whom the prevailing medical view is addressed) suggests either no theoretical upper limit, or at least that if such a ceiling exists, it is far greater than even high-normal endogenous circulating androgen levels:”
- Proviron in PCT is an old misconception. You will just suppress your endogenous production further, as it is an AAS
- if you still taking a SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor), this could be the source of your ED
1. Look up Dr. Scully's HPTA normalization protocol.
2. How long since you have stopped Trenbolone, Nandrolone, 19-Nors? Their metabolites could still cause issues.
3. Stop taking Proviron, it has no place in PCT.
1 -You might want to read the whole chapter on PCT from p. 108 on.
William Llewellyn's Anabolics, 11th Edition ( Llewellyn, 2017) : William Llewellyn : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Llewellyn, W. (2017). William Llewellyn's Anabolics, 11th Edition. Jupiter, Florida: Molecular Nutrition. [832 pages] [ISBN-10:0999062107] [ISBN-10:0999062115]...
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I have read that years ago in an older edition and, if I remember correctly, for small amateur/beginner cycles as mentioned in this book, this is mad overkill. Llewellyn did not differentiate between hard cycles requiring strong PCT and soft cycles.
My own research back than showed, that this protocol brought people back from having a non-functional HPTA for months ("it did not come back at all naturally") to normal function.
2- To my knowledge metabolites should be cleared then.
3- Unfortunately, I only know of the immediate effects of SSRI regarding this issue.
Good luck fellow trainee.
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HUGE McBIGLARGE
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I’ve been collecting feels data and recording it based on what drugs I’m taking. I can then plug it all into ChatGPT and get it to work out which variable gives me the best or worse feels.
For the last 2 months or so I’ve been on no androgens other than 100mg per day of Testogel and HCG. And my libido has been shit. Erectile function has been poor, and I’ve had no nocturnal erections. The only time I got a nocturnal erection was when I took 80mg of tadalafil before bed. My total T on this dose is above range, but only slightly.
A few days ago I lowered the testogel dose to 40mg per day and added 90mg of TE subq EoD. This makes my total T something like 4x the reference range. Within a day my libido was improving (was looking at some ugly woman in a video game and thought to myself “ye I’d fuck that”). Sexual thoughts came back. And for the last two days I’ve had nocturnal erections that have persisted for a minute after waking.
The libido I could attribute to placebo, but not the nocturnal erections.
I am taking a fairly hefty 3mg of anastrozole per week, so the next step is to lower the dose to 1mg and see if I feel better or worse.
So my point is, maybe try making dramatic and sudden changes to the drugs you take, so you can observe dramatic and sudden changes to your symptoms. That might help point you in the right direction.
For the last 2 months or so I’ve been on no androgens other than 100mg per day of Testogel and HCG. And my libido has been shit. Erectile function has been poor, and I’ve had no nocturnal erections. The only time I got a nocturnal erection was when I took 80mg of tadalafil before bed. My total T on this dose is above range, but only slightly.
A few days ago I lowered the testogel dose to 40mg per day and added 90mg of TE subq EoD. This makes my total T something like 4x the reference range. Within a day my libido was improving (was looking at some ugly woman in a video game and thought to myself “ye I’d fuck that”). Sexual thoughts came back. And for the last two days I’ve had nocturnal erections that have persisted for a minute after waking.
The libido I could attribute to placebo, but not the nocturnal erections.
I am taking a fairly hefty 3mg of anastrozole per week, so the next step is to lower the dose to 1mg and see if I feel better or worse.
So my point is, maybe try making dramatic and sudden changes to the drugs you take, so you can observe dramatic and sudden changes to your symptoms. That might help point you in the right direction.
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