Epinephrine injections vs pills

[Jin23]

To those that have used both, how much of a difference do you perceive in time of action between the two? Dose being equated for bioavailability differences ...

Or if you've tried just one or the other, I'm still interested in your experience, time of perceived action.

 

[up45]

epinephrine or ephedrine ?

 

[MR_Midas]

The first preparation is some kind of hellish mixture, then you run around the hall like a clockwork. The main thing is to take it in the first half of the day, otherwise you won’t fall asleep and, most importantly, it drowns fat well.

 

[Jin23]

epinephrine or ephedrine ?

Doh, what did I write. Ephedrine off course yes.

 

[Jin23]

The first preparation is some kind of hellish mixture, then you run around the hall like a clockwork. The main thing is to take it in the first half of the day, otherwise you won’t fall asleep and, most importantly, it drowns fat well.

Yeah, I didn't mean to write that. That's straight up adrenaline used for anaphylaxis : D

 

[Leg_locker]

I ran ECA and every other variations on and off for years 72mg/800mg/81mg.In the beginning it gave me great energy, my breathing was amazing and the weight flew off. My hands were like a vibrator so my wife loved it .
I find it lasts for about 4 hours and starts around 30ish mins after taking it.
I don't use ephedrine anymore tho.. after years of use I find it does less then caffeine alone and the crash is unreal

 

[MR_Midas]

Yeah, I didn't mean to write that. That's straight up adrenaline used for anaphylaxis : D

I would call this the Devil's potion, ONLY he could do such a thing

 

[MR_Midas]

I ran ECA and every other variations on and off for years 72mg/800mg/81mg.In the beginning it gave me great energy, my breathing was amazing and the weight flew off. My hands were like a vibrator so my wife loved it .
I find it lasts for about 4 hours and starts around 30ish mins after taking it.
I don't use ephedrine anymore tho.. after years of use I find it does less then caffeine alone and the crash is unreal

You have to take caffeine and aspirin with it, it just makes it work for a long time. Moreover, the main thing is to choose the right ratio of substances.

 

[Country Club Hero]

I ran ECA and every other variations on and off for years 72mg/800mg/81mg.In the beginning it gave me great energy, my breathing was amazing and the weight flew off. My hands were like a vibrator so my wife loved it .
I find it lasts for about 4 hours and starts around 30ish mins after taking it.
I don't use ephedrine anymore tho.. after years of use I find it does less then caffeine alone and the crash is unreal

Never heard of such doses. 800mg caffeine? I’m a routine ephedrine user in good cardio shape, lean and not one that gets lots of negative side effects from drugs in general. But if I took anywhere near 70mg ephedrine and 800mg caffeine I think my heart may indeed explode inside my chest. And my brain wouldn’t be happy about it. 25mg ephedrine and 350 caffeine is enough to raise my BP for a little while. You must have been really young doing those doses. And with no regard for future heart health.

 

[Jin23]

Never heard of such doses. 800mg caffeine? I’m a routine ephedrine user in good cardio shape, lean and not one that gets lots of negative side effects from drugs in general. But if I took anywhere near 70mg ephedrine and 800mg caffeine I think my heart may indeed explode inside my chest. And my brain wouldn’t be happy about it. 25mg ephedrine and 350 caffeine is enough to raise my BP for a little while. You must have been really young doing those doses. And with no regard for future heart health.

How long do you feel ephedrine lasts? And have you also used injectable?

 

[Leg_locker]

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Never heard of such doses. 800mg caffeine? I’m a routine ephedrine user in good cardio shape, lean and not one that gets lots of negative side effects from drugs in general. But if I took anywhere near 70mg ephedrine and 800mg caffeine I think my heart may indeed explode inside my chest. And my brain wouldn’t be happy about it. 25mg ephedrine and 350 caffeine is enough to raise my BP for a little while. You must have been really young doing those doses. And with no regard for future heart health.

Pretty much every clinical trial you can find on EC or eca stacks are around that dose.
In Canada ephedrine and ephedrine HCl is available otc most gyms sell it at the front counter and the 72/800/81 is standard here

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Iv never had any BP side effects tho resting heart rate would be high obviously.
I still take a minimum of 400mg caffeine a day and every ECG and EKG iv got has always come back perfect.

 

[Country Club Hero]

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Pretty much every clinical trial you can find on EC or eca stacks are around that dose.
In Canada ephedrine and ephedrine HCl is available otc most gyms sell it at the front counter and the 72/800/81 is standard here

Europe PMC

Europe PMC is an archive of life sciences journal literature.

europepmc.org

Iv never had any BP side effects tho resting heart rate would be high obviously.
I still take a minimum of 400mg caffeine a day and every ECG and EKG iv got has always come back perfect.

There’s got to be something lost in translation here. Even the most caffeine loaded preworkouts have less than 500mg caffeine. The ephedrine tabs we get from pharmacies here are 25mg at the highest. Most are 12.5mg. So something is not adding up.

People would end up in the hospital taking those doses for any newish user imo. Again, unless 10mg in the USA is equivalent to 50mg Canadian lol

 

[Country Club Hero]

How long do you feel ephedrine lasts? And have you also used injectable?

I’ve always been interested in ordering injectable but never did. It last several hours me. I wouldn’t take a 2nd dose for at least 5 hours after the last. But my BP stays slightly elevated from ephedrine for close to 8 hours. I should take a stim break because it’s been a decade since one but I can feel the ephedrine buzz for about 3-4 hours on 25mg with at least 200mg caffeine. Fasted consumption of course.

 

[Leg_locker]

I only have ephedrine HCl on hand but If i had regular ephedrine at 25mg it would just be 1 pill every 4 hours
7am 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine 1x81mg aspirin
11am 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine
3pm 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine
7pm 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine

Daily total 800mg caffeine 72mg ephedrine 81mg aspirin

 

[Country Club Hero]

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I only have ephedrine HCl on hand but If i had regular ephedrine at 25mg it would just be 1 pill every 4 hours
7am 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine 1x81mg aspirin
11am 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine
3pm 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine
7pm 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine

Daily total 800mg caffeine 72mg ephedrine 81mg aspirin

Shoot, I feel dumb now. I see you are talking about daily totals now. Yes, that’s about what I was using daily also at one point.
3 x daily of 25mg/200mg

that makes a lot more sense lol

but I found 3 x daily hard to sleep on so I went with a early AM dose of 37.5mg ephedrine and 300mg caffeine. Followed by an early afternoon dose (3 hours after first meal) of 25/200. I could still take a sleeping pill at 8pm and wake up at 5am on that dosing schedule.

 

[Leg_locker]

Shoot, I feel dumb now. I see you are talking about daily totals now. Yes, that’s about what I was using daily also at one point.
3 x daily of 25mg/200mg

that makes a lot more sense lol

but I found 3 x daily hard to sleep on so I went with a early AM dose of 37.5mg ephedrine and 300mg caffeine. Followed by an early afternoon dose (3 hours after first meal) of 25/200. I could still take a sleeping pill at 8pm and wake up at 5am on that dosing schedule.

Haha dont feel dumb I donno why I chose to use daily totals I can see your concern if I was taking 75/800mg 3x a day deffinitly a heart attack for sure.

I know a girl that took 75/800mg all at once and she said it gave her synesthesia for a few hours

Good note to add is to titrate up your dose like clean if it's your first time using it

 

[Jin23]

Have you two tried a nri like atomoxetine maybe? Can you compare?

 

[Country Club Hero]

Have you two tried a nri like atomoxetine maybe? Can you compare?

No, never even heard of that.

 

[MR_Midas]

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I only have ephedrine HCl on hand but If i had regular ephedrine at 25mg it would just be 1 pill every 4 hours
7am 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine 1x81mg aspirin
11am 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine
3pm 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine
7pm 1x200mg caffeine 3x8mg ephedrine

Daily total 800mg caffeine 72mg ephedrine 81mg aspirin

This mixture should work very well. The main thing is to find a use for your body