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I also think it is realistic and practical to test for heavy metals and microbial contamination by anyone who wishes to spend the money.

I am far from convinced that it is realistic to expect market forces to make it an obligatory cost of doing business for UGL enterprises... at this point in time.

I would think that any reasonable consumer of black market injectable AAS would want these two tests added to the basic quantitative analysis of active ingredients as a minimum standard for harm reduction.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw
 
has anyone ever actually found a place to do NMR testing or is this BS just a fairy tale for the average consumer

It has been coming up again recently in some discussions.
 
i am not the one pushing it lol. just donating for it


Id rather not discredit the testing we currently use and not have a reasonable solution
I agree 100% , i think this nmr testing is a great idea, but how applicable is it in the ugl hgh scene? Meaning is it going to change anything?
 
Dunno if this is legit or not , but heres a few companies maybe? Says you have to directly contact them, i looked up "intertek" and they seem to do all types of nmr testing ,
 

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I want my hour back! I just spent way too much time trying to figure out what I should be testing for. As many of my brethren know I have been testing PEDs for a very long time, and have posted over 50 results on Meso. In fact, when I was in college, before Meso even existed, I had a friend that worked in a High Performance Liquid Chromatography lab that would test my gear.

I am a full supporter of good testing that is warranted, but meaningless testing is a whole other issue. It appears that we may be trying to prove that the earth is flat.

I have one question. @readalot Are the Heavy Metals in the room with you right now?

Do we have any testing that has come back where we have found any of these heavy metals, endotoxins, other shit, in finished products?

I am about to send off two or three items for testing and wanna make sure that I don’t miss anything. So if it is warranted, I will have them tested for their earthly flatness.

That said. What am I asking Jano for? Which extra tests?
 
I want my hour back! I just spent way too much time trying to figure out what I should be testing for. As many of my brethren know I have been testing PEDs for a very long time, and have posted over 50 results on Meso. In fact, when I was in college, before Meso even existed, I had a friend that worked in a High Performance Liquid Chromatography lab that would test my gear.

I am a full supporter of good testing that is warranted, but meaningless testing is a whole other issue. It appears that we may be trying to prove that the earth is flat.

I have one question. @readalot Are the Heavy Metals in the room with you right now?

Do we have any testing that has come back where we have found any of these heavy metals, endotoxins, other shit, in finished products?

I am about to send off two or three items for testing and wanna make sure that I don’t miss anything. So if it is warranted, I will have them tested for their earthly flatness.

That said. What am I asking Jano for? Which extra tests?
Happy Thanksgiving.

You may want to look over some of the recent GCMS testing that has been shared on the forum. Testing of both raws and finished oils has been very informative if you value "finding stuff" and don't value "not finding stuff".

Be careful with current raws and some vendor carrier oils.
 
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I want my hour back! I just spent way too much time trying to figure out what I should be testing for. As many of my brethren know I have been testing PEDs for a very long time, and have posted over 50 results on Meso. In fact, when I was in college, before Meso even existed, I had a friend that worked in a High Performance Liquid Chromatography lab that would test my gear.

I am a full supporter of good testing that is warranted, but meaningless testing is a whole other issue. It appears that we may be trying to prove that the earth is flat.

I have one question. @readalot Are the Heavy Metals in the room with you right now?

Do we have any testing that has come back where we have found any of these heavy metals, endotoxins, other shit, in finished products?

I am about to send off two or three items for testing and wanna make sure that I don’t miss anything. So if it is warranted, I will have them tested for their earthly flatness.

That said. What am I asking Jano for? Which extra tests?
I think a lot of it is still a waste of time. Nothing has changed. We are lucky to find 93% pure stuff nowadays
 
I want my hour back! I just spent way too much time trying to figure out what I should be testing for. As many of my brethren know I have been testing PEDs for a very long time, and have posted over 50 results on Meso. In fact, when I was in college, before Meso even existed, I had a friend that worked in a High Performance Liquid Chromatography lab that would test my gear.

I am a full supporter of good testing that is warranted, but meaningless testing is a whole other issue. It appears that we may be trying to prove that the earth is flat.

I have one question. @readalot Are the Heavy Metals in the room with you right now?

Do we have any testing that has come back where we have found any of these heavy metals, endotoxins, other shit, in finished products?

I am about to send off two or three items for testing and wanna make sure that I don’t miss anything. So if it is warranted, I will have them tested for their earthly flatness.

That said. What am I asking Jano for? Which extra tests?

GCMS recently done on Axle's crap yellow colored DHB.
Sold as MCT but badly contaminated with vegetable oil.
(Sunflower or GSO, god knows what..plus all sorts of other crap in it..)

 
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Very nice to see members using GCMS to make more informed decisions on what they inject.

Also check out the HPLC-GCMS model that was @Photon 's brainchild.
This looks like great information. Thank you for sharing it with me. So you would recommend getting the reqular HPLC test and the GCMS test. Would you also test for metals and endotoxins?

Looks like I need to go back and retest some products.

Do you see the same issues with orals?

Does this apply to peptides? tirzepatide and Retatrutide

Thank you. Looks my wallet is about to get lighter.
 
GCMS recently done on Axle's crap yellow colored DHB.
Sold as MCT but badly contaminated with vegetable oil.
(Sunflower or GSO, god knows what..plus all sorts of other crap in it..)

Seems like someone is reselling Chinese oils xD

Or it has found a way to brew gear that is a lot more contaminated than Chinese one. I mean Darwin award?
 
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This looks like great information. Thank you for sharing it with me. So you would recommend getting the reqular HPLC test and the GCMS test. Would you also test for metals and endotoxins?

Looks like I need to go back and retest some products.

Do you see the same issues with orals?

Does this apply to peptides? tirzepatide and Retatrutide

Thank you. Looks my wallet is about to get lighter.
No need for Endo ad heavy metals in my opinion.

Endotoxin on peptides does a lot more sense.
 
This looks like great information. Thank you for sharing it with me. So you would recommend getting the reqular HPLC test and the GCMS test. Would you also test for metals and endotoxins?

What are you testing? Oils or raws?

Jano now offers a package deal for 240 USD for HPLC and GCMS.

GCMS is a useful screening tool for raws and oils.

No, i dropped the metals and we learned Jano can't reliably test oils for endotoxins. So dropped that too.

Looks like I need to go back and retest some products.

Do you see the same issues with orals?
GCMS on raws used to make orals also gives same insight into what the "other stuff" is besides the API.


Does this apply to peptides? tirzepatide and Retatrutide

I havent done any peptide work. Others can weigh in but sterility issue does seem to pop up. Endotoxins? Not sure what has been found or not.

Thank you. Looks my wallet is about to get lighter.

My pleasure. Take care and have a great week.
 
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