eggs

[Peace Division]

Yeah but there is more in his diet plan. I will try to find it tomorrow. He used to think that the egg whites shouldn't be eaten raw but now he says it's ok as long as the raw yolk is eatin with it. im tired

Yeah bro, if you could get that diet plan that would be great. Because if Mercola is basing his entire idea of raw eggs are better than cooked eggs because of food allergies I'll keep cooking my eggs.
Mercola say from his website: http://www.mercola.com/2002/nov/13/eggs.htm

"Eggs generally are one of the most allergic foods that are eaten, but I believe this is because they are cooked. If one consumes the eggs in their raw state the incidence of egg allergy virtually disappears. Heating the egg protein actually changes its chemical shape, and the distortion can easily lead to allergies."

He doesn't reference any studies that eggs are as allergic as he says, and I've read studies that say cooked egg proteins are assimilated more than raw egg protein. Utilizing more protein vs. an allergy I don't have? Hmm, lemme think. I know, I'll take the protein.

I think he's just trying to find his niche a la Atkins. Peace.

 

[vegas]

Hey Peace Division.......according to this study looks like you are correct in your assumption of cooked versus raw for protein uptake. I would like to see other research that supports this data. Peace....Vegas

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/128/10/1716

 

[vegas]

I was searching for more egg data and ran across this on another board. More of a way to incorporate eggs into your diet and a good bulker....Peace...Vegas




By: Scott Diedrichs

How many of you body builders out there enjoy your eggs? Good, as a matter of fact that's great, keep it up and continue to read on because you may very well be on the road to increasing your egg intake and thus increasing your muscle mass. But what about all you muscle heads out there that are neglecting eggs because of the taste or simple because you're lazy and couldn't be bothered cooking, so you ultimately opt for a tasty whey shake instead. Well after reading this article, I'm confident that eggs will be the first thing on your mind when you wake up in the morning.

An egg is one of the most complete and versatile foods available. It has a valuable role in providing a healthy diet for all and especially bodybuilders. We all know the importance of protein in the muscle building process, without protein, your muscles will simply not grow.

Excluding water protein, it is the next most abundant element that makes up the majority of our bodies, so with all this protein in the body, wouldn't you say that protein should be a very important part of anyone's diet? Bodybuilders need to take this a little further by damaging those protein fibers with heavy weight training in order for the protein fibers to regrow stronger and bigger. A bodybuilder's diet must be much higher in protein than the average persons.

Eggs contain about 6 grams of high quality protein, so high that it is used as the standard by which other foods are measured. Eggs are also a rich source of vitamins, including A, E and K and a range of B vitamins such as B12 (energy), riboflavin and folic acid. Eggs also contain all eight essential amino acids needed for optimal muscle recovery and building valuable minerals like calcium, zinc and iron.

Now before you get scared and say what about the fat that eggs contain, let me break it down for you. The white part of the egg contains no fat what so ever, on the other hand, the yolk of an egg (yellow) contains about 5 grams of fat BUT only a small proportion of this is saturated fat (Bad Fat) - about 1.6 grams. Bodybuilders seeking to bulk up muscle are in particular need for fat in foods at a time when they have high-energy requirements for growth but limited appetites. Eggs contain cholesterol but it is generally accepted that dietary cholesterol does not raise blood cholesterol levels. Eggs are easily digested and absorbed and are extremely useful in ensuring a balanced diet for us bodybuilders.

The Benefits Of Adding Eggs Into Your Diet

6 Egg Whites And 2 Yolks In The Morning Are Going To Provide The Body With:

26.5 grams of protein.
Zero carbohydrates.
5.23 grams of fat 2.7 grams of that is unsaturated fat (good fats).
153 calories.
Add A Bowl Of Oats, One Banana & 2 Tablespoon Of Flaxseed Oil To Get:


39 grams of Protein
78 grams of Carbohydrates
48 grams of fat amazingly only 4 grams of this fat is saturated (bad fat).
A total of 900 calories
The Above Meal Three Times A Day Equals:


117 grams of protein
234 grams of carbohydrates
144 grams of fat which only 12 grams is saturated
A total of 2700 calories
Add A Protein Bar In-Between One Of Those Meals:
(I'll use Power Bar protein plus bar as my example)


24 grams of Protein
38 grams of Carbohydrates
5 grams of fat which, 3.5 grams is saturated
Total Calories 295
This Ends Up Calculating To:


141 grams of Protein
272 grams of Carbohydrates
149 grams of Fat which 15.5 grams is saturated
Total calories 2995
Add A Post Work Out Shake & You Get:


50 grams of Protein
80 grams of Carbohydrates
Total calories 520
Add In 2 Liters Of Milk Throughout The Day:


66 grams of protein
94 grams of carbohydrates
72 grams of fat 46 grams coming from saturated
1280 calories
Add 300 Grams Of Tuna With 1 Cup Of Broccoli:


64 grams of protein
10 grams of carbohydrates
6 gram of fat 1 gram coming from saturated sources
350 calories
At The End Of The Day You Will End Up With:


321 grams of protein
431 grams of carbohydrates
227 grams of fat out of all that fat we only have 62.2 grams of saturated
Total Calories for the Day 5051
Now who said clean bulking isn't easy?

The Many Ways To Cook Your Eggs


Scrambled
Micro waved
Boiled
Fried
Baked
Steamed
Personally I always cook my eggs for better absorption by the human body and to avoid the risk of getting sick through salmonella. I usually just put all my eggs in a microwave safe bowl, chuck them in the microwave for a couple of minutes add a little bit of BBQ sauce and they are ready to eat in less than 5 minutes. So please don't let me hear you use time as an excuse to leave eggs out of your diet.

 

[Peace Division]

Hey Peace Division.......according to this study looks like you are correct in your assumption of cooked versus raw for protein uptake. I would like to see other research that supports this data. Peace....Vegas

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/abstract/128/10/1716

Vegas, those articles are the two I have read. Unfortunately I haven't found any others either that agree or disagree with this topic. And that's a cool article you provided, as eggs are a cheap and easy to make protein. I don't think I would eat that many grams of fat though. Peace.

 

[MANWHORE]

Sorry,

No matter what some experts say about drinking raw eggs, I will not try the 1 in 50,000 russian roulette game. I have heard stories of people going to the hospital because of this. Actually, a friend of mine was staying with me for awhile, and he thought he was some sort of (wannabe) bodybuilder. I found out he was drinking raw eggs...well, a month or so later he was at the hospital with bad stomach pains and he lost a ton of weight. Makes me think it was the raw eggs.

Think about it, would you guys eat raw chicken right from the meat department? Of course not.

LOL Semonila isn't a deadly disease,unless your sick already. You can tell if the egg is bad,if you check it. I wouldn't eat an infected egg.

 

[MANWHORE]

I can't find it. I remember he talked about not mixing eggs in blender because it will damage protein,and buying organic over commercial because of Omega 3-6 ratio and lower semonila risk. I remember a few yrs ago,i thought that raw eggs were not digested well in the human digestive system,but i found out that they were better digested when in raw state. I can't remember where i got all the info from. Maybe the Protein is better absorbed better when the egg is cooked,i don't know for sure. You have 2 articles saying it is,and i have none,so what more can i say If your going to eat them cooked,then hard boiled or over easy are the best ways,if your also worried about health

 

[big louie]

LOL Semonila isn't a deadly disease,unless your sick already. You can tell if the egg is bad,if you check it. I wouldn't eat an infected egg.

selmonila isn't a deadly disease? i don't know about that but one thing is for sure- you will loose some serious size if in fact you are infected with it..

throwing 2 or 3 raw eggs into your shakes isn't going to make a enough of a differece in your calorie protein uptake,,, moral of the story? cook your eggs fellas...

 

[Pablo34]

hey louie

throwing 2 or 3 raw eggs into your shakes isn't going to make a enough of a differece in your calorie protein uptake,,, moral of the story? cook your eggs fellas...

Hey Louie,

Are you still making your gourmet tuna & yam shakes anymore? I personally do the tuna/whey protein powder/flax oil shakes.

 

[big louie]

Hey Louie,

Are you still making your gourmet tuna & yam shakes anymore? I personally do the tuna/whey protein powder/flax oil shakes.

haha! you remember that bro? i do sometimes but most of the time its the yam with some eas simply whey..

who was it that was doing the cola with tuna and the OJ with the tuna? that was pretty bad wasn't it? lol...

 

[MANWHORE]

selmonila isn't a deadly disease? i don't know about that but one thing is for sure- you will loose some serious size if in fact you are infected with it..

throwing 2 or 3 raw eggs into your shakes isn't going to make a enough of a differece in your calorie protein uptake,,, moral of the story? cook your eggs fellas...

I guess for a bber losing weight is deadly enough I would probably hardboil my eggs more,but eating them raw is much faster,and sometimes i don't have time to cook them. I really don't eat alot of eggs anyway

 

[Peace Division]

I can't find it. I remember he talked about not mixing eggs in blender because it will damage protein,and buying organic over commercial because of Omega 3-6 ratio and lower semonila risk. I remember a few yrs ago,i thought that raw eggs were not digested well in the human digestive system,but i found out that they were better digested when in raw state. I can't remember where i got all the info from. Maybe the Protein is better absorbed better when the egg is cooked,i don't know for sure. You have 2 articles saying it is,and i have none,so what more can i say If your going to eat them cooked,then hard boiled or over easy are the best ways,if your also worried about health

That's cool bro, I appreciate your looking, and I agree with the organic over commercial. And I agree with Big Louie, that eggs make up such a small part of my protein intake, that it comes down to a person's choice as to cooking or not cooking. Me, I prefer mine cooked. Peace.

 

[MANWHORE]

6g/protein per egg isn't much,which is why i'd rather get my protein from chicken and red meat or a good protein drink. When i want alot of calories i usually grab a few burritos,some other junk food filled with carbs,and then mix some powdered protein in water. I started that Synthepure again,but that shit could get expensive,so i'm gonna switch to another brand after i'm finished the 10lbs of this stuff. Maybe i'll go back to Isopure again.

 

[roofer]

4 grams. you can buy a book called food counts that tells you all macronutrients of most food even from resturants.

 

[Mark Kerr]

I cant believe I am reading this: An argument between the nutritional values of cooked versus uncooked eggs. The nutritional value (especially at the macronutrient level) change between a cooked egg and an uncooked egg is negligible. Why even bicker?

Your friend,

Mark

P.S. Can someone tell me how a protein is "killed" by being cooked?

 

[MANWHORE]

I cant believe I am reading this: An argument between the nutritional values of cooked versus uncooked eggs. The nutritional value (especially at the macronutrient level) change between a cooked egg and an uncooked egg is negligible. Why even bicker?

Your friend,

Mark

P.S. Can someone tell me how a protein is "killed" by being cooked?

They are weak proteins,that don't like heat

 

[MANWHORE]

Mercola.com

Avoid Cooking Your Foods Well-Done

Weve all heard it before--make sure you thoroughly cook your food to kill any food-borne pathogens. What you dont hear is that overcooked food is a prime way to get an extra helping of carcinogens with your meal.

When most foods are cooked they lose valuable nutrients, but overcooking food or cooking it at extremely high temperatures actually generates harmful chemicals. Many processed foods contain acrylamide, a potentially cancer-causing chemical due to their high cooking temperatures.

When meats are cooked at high temperatures by frying, boiling or barbecuing, carcinogenic substances called heterocyclic amines are formed. One solution is to add organic blueberries to the meat (with hamburgers for instance), as blueberries contain many cancer-fighting antioxidants that may prevent the heterocyclic animes from forming.

Consuming only lightly cooked meat will also help you avoid carcinogens. You will, of course, want to purchase meat from healthy animals, as opposed to the antibiotic- and hormone-ridden meat sold in most supermarkets, to ensure you are getting only high-quality meat. You can find healthy meat in some health food stores, or try the free-range ostrich and bison offered on this site--they are truly two of the best meats you can consume.

Overcooking not only applies to meat, but also to dairy products and eggs. I recommend that most people avoid drinking pasteurized milk since its beneficial properties are destroyed through pasteurization, but highly recommend raw milk. Similarly, cooked eggs cause health problems with many people, but raw eggs are an incredible source of high-quality nutrients.

Vegetables also lose valuable nutrients when they are cooked. Vegetable juicing is an excellent way to add nutritious, raw vegetables to your diet.

 

[jd62]

well then, that settles that

 

[Mark Kerr]

"They are weak proteins,that don't like heat"

Oh, and that means they DIE? If you get into a car accident, does your bumper DIE?

[MK]

 

[MANWHORE]

"They are weak proteins,that don't like heat"

Oh, and that means they DIE? If you get into a car accident, does your bumper DIE?

[MK]

That depends on what model bumper you have. I purposely smack my bumper around every now and then,just to toughen it up.... I don't know if cooking damages protein,in eggs. I thought i read it,but maybe i misunderstood. I did however read that mixing eggs in a blender will damage protein,i think. Maybe i'm making this shit up,i don't really know anymore.

 

[Mark Kerr]

" Weve all heard it before--make sure you thoroughly cook your food to kill any food-borne pathogens. What you dont hear is that overcooked food is a prime way to get an extra helping of carcinogens with your meal."

Yes, thats very true. However, you have a very big logic problem. You see, the pathogens we are trying to kill are more likely to harm us than the extra carcinogens we get from cooking food well done. Thats why it is recommended, and thats why people should cook their eggs. Besides, I dare someone to find a study that shows that anyone has ever developed cancer from eating over-cooked food. And anyone can point to 100 studies showing illness and death related to food-related pathogens.

[MK]

P.S. Note the use of the word "possible" in MANWHORE's study. Just another "scare-study" (thats what I call them)