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0 issues after injection, next day it hurts.
I do have some vials of the first batch (low BA content) which don't crash much. I can send you those to test them if you like. Contact me per email if you want to try.

Maybe some people absorb the BB too quickly and leaving the TNE behind crystallising the next day. This product has high BB relative to the MCT.. which as I understand is removed from the injection depot quicker than MCT.

In that case, maybe the BA is not the cause of pip, and @Photon 's way of brewing is actually the way to go. (high BA, lower BB which keeps room for more oil)

I know this product is used mainly without other products, as a pwo. But it will certainly help mixing it with something else.

I'm also using the first batch of TNE and 1ml in the deltoid and zero pips
I checked, and can confirm you were sent the 2nd version (rebrew with the slightly higher BA content). I remember because your order was shipped out a day later for that.

@Dutch Labs any idea why the first batch of TNE was pipless and this ain't?
Please see last quote. The BA was also not raised that much, not so much that it should cause an extreme amount of PIP vs the first batch.
 
I do have some vials of the first batch (low BA content) which don't crash much. I can send you those to test them if you like. Contact me per email if you want to try.

Maybe some people absorb the BB too quickly and leaving the TNE behind crystallising the next day. This product has high BB relative to the MCT.. which as I understand is removed from the injection depot quicker than MCT.

In that case, maybe the BA is not the cause of pip, and @Photon 's way of brewing is actually the way to go. (high BA, lower BB which keeps room for more oil)

I know this product is used mainly without other products, as a pwo. But it will certainly help mixing it with something else.


I checked, and can confirm you were sent the 2nd version (rebrew with the slightly higher BA content). I remember because your order was shipped out a day later for that.


Please see last quote. The BA was also not raised that much, not so much that it should cause an extreme amount of PIP vs the first batch.

i will write to you, thanks.
tomorrow i will try to pin 0,5mi tne with 0,5ml of my regular test c to try, maybe it will help but you are right, ive been pinning it solo so far. i will report back in few days.
 
@Eddie.

As for the Test D 400. If it's unusable, please contact me per email. I will reimburse you.

I had another user complain about it as well. The colour is slightly darker which caught my eye, but it was borderline acceptable. Probably light oxidation of the raws. The purity was around 94 percent.
 
As for Test E 400 causing pip.

Recommend mixing it. Test E can be pippy by itself.

The raws for these batches were very high purity. Both 98%+ and oil very clear when brewed, which is what you want to see.
 
@Eddie.

As for the Test D 400. If it's unusable, please contact me per email. I will reimburse you.

I had another user complain about it as well. The colour is slightly darker which caught my eye, but it was borderline acceptable. Probably light oxidation of the raws. The purity was around 94 percent.

Yes the colour is darker than test, resembles a little to Tren. I've sent you an email, thanks.
 
@Eddie.

As for the Test D 400. If it's unusable, please contact me per email. I will reimburse you.

I had another user complain about it as well. The colour is slightly darker which caught my eye, but it was borderline acceptable. Probably light oxidation of the raws. The purity was around 94 percent.
Test D should be completely pipless at 500/550mg... Something is very wrong if it can't be pinned at 400mg :(

Do you still have the first batch of TNE? Cuz I'll let my friend know in case he finds this batch pippy. He will be pleased there is an alternative in case.
 
Test D should be completely pipless at 500/550mg... Something is very wrong if it can't be pinned at 400mg :(

Do you still have the first batch of TNE? Cuz I'll let my friend know in case he finds this batch pippy. He will be pleased there is an alternative in case.
yes , this TEST D by @Dutch Labs he has PIP problems, I don't know if there is something wrong with the production or something else
 
let's see if it was an outlier, i'm pinning again now and report back tomorrow. :D
Well I can inject primo 300 and have just an annoying knot without really any crippling PIP when some other can't walk for weeks so I know what you mean maybe you are just one of those: I don't get PIP guy.

Report back tomorrow
 
Well I can inject primo 300 and have just an annoying knot without really any crippling PIP when some other can't walk for weeks so I know what you mean maybe you are just one of those: I don't get PIP guy.

Report back tomorrow
it could be, I also do not get pip from Test Enanthate. we'll see!
 
Yes the colour is darker than test, resembles a little to Tren. I've sent you an email, thanks.
I checked my supply this morning. My test also is a little darker but certainly not as dark as tren. Almost like brewed with gso. Gonna try it as a test tonight and see if I get pip. Normally it was not until November to use but will do a test shot tonight.
 
Well I can inject primo 300 and have just an annoying knot without really any crippling PIP when some other can't walk for weeks so I know what you mean maybe you are just one of those: I don't get PIP guy.

Report back tomorrow
so the new batch of TNE still does not give me pip in the ventroglute. But the second pin that I did was in the quad. That one did give me pip, after 4-6 hours already I felt it. It's not crippling, but a medium pip. I would describe that feeling as if you walked into an object the day before. It doesn't handicap me because it's so localized, but you definitely feel it.

Next experiment will be delts, because I have a feeling that the pip occurs in larger muscles mainly, since the ventroglute is still pip free.
 
so the new batch of TNE still does not give me pip in the ventroglute. But the second pin that I did was in the quad. That one did give me pip, after 4-6 hours already I felt it. It's not crippling, but a medium pip. I would describe that feeling as if you walked into an object the day before. It doesn't handicap me because it's so localized, but you definitely feel it.

Next experiment will be delts, because I have a feeling that the pip occurs in larger muscles mainly, since the ventroglute is still pip free.

how much did you injected into quad?
 
@Eddie.

As for the Test D 400. If it's unusable, please contact me per email. I will reimburse you.

I had another user complain about it as well. The colour is slightly darker which caught my eye, but it was borderline acceptable. Probably light oxidation of the raws. The purity was around 94 percent.

I've sent you an email, thanks.

Props to this source for addressing the situation. I'd like to mention that he willingly proposed to reimburse. Because i respect that kind of handling i asked if he has any leftover vials of normal concentration of Test E, C or D to send me to cut down the concentration from test E400 instead of refunding me but since he's out of stock on these he sent me the crypto.

These last shots have messed me up quite a bit physically and mentally but $hit happens and how you're going to handle things after tells a few things about character.

Thanks @Dutch Labs.
 

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