Dutch Labs - EU Domestic

[BabaJagga]

I have not but seriously thinking about trying it, not trt though but cycle dosages. So far I tolerate well every compound I tried subc, even if this test stings I’d rather have a sting in my hips skin than a golf ball in my muscle. If I do this I’ll post it here.

mate dont lie, you dont have place to pin subq, you are too lean

 

[Photon]

I have not but seriously thinking about trying it, not trt though but cycle dosages. So far I tolerate well every compound I tried subc, even if this test stings I’d rather have a sting in my hips skin than a golf ball in my muscle. If I do this I’ll post it here.

I'd look into Test D but they are OOS. The Chinese vendors have SUPERTEST450 which tests at around 500mg. But about 300mg is Test D + C, which is pipless at those doses. I think I'd rather try that than a high dosed E.

 

[Eddie.]

I'd look into Test D but they are OOS. The Chinese vendors have SUPERTEST450 which tests at around 500mg. But about 300mg is Test D + C, which is pipless at those doses. I think I'd rather try that than a high dosed E.

I bought a kit of this too and it has pip too. It’s weird because in the past I was using a test e at 323mg in mct no super solvents and it was pipless. That’s why I pulled the trigger on those high concentrations.

Now I’ve mixed in a vial test e400, test d400, EQ and npp and I have a big knot from today’s pin, only 1ml total.

 

[Photon]

I bought a kit of this too and it has pip too.

Dam i was gonna buy it this month
Test E is hit and miss tho, there's some weird issue with raws, you never know what's good or bad till you use it..

I'd reckon if you swap out the e400 with supertest450 it'll be pip free but i cant confirm till i order and receive it

 

[BabaJagga]

I bought a kit of this too and it has pip too. It’s weird because in the past I was using a test e at 323mg in mct no super solvents and it was pipless. That’s why I pulled the trigger on those high concentrations.

Now I’ve mixed in a vial test e400, test d400, EQ and npp and I have a big knot from today’s pin, only 1ml total.

next time go for C at 250mg/ml... 0 issues with it..

maybe try sourcing mct oil and reduce concentration. if that doesnt help, its E ester probably..?

 

[Sampei]

yeeeea, me too....

No big deal, I'll just dilute it for him at 50mg/ml should solve the problem, I'll report back.

 

[OilCarrier]

No big deal, I'll just dilute it for him at 50mg/ml should solve the problem, I'll report back.

Would be helpful to learn how you go about this exactly, as I am also in this boat.

 

[BabaJagga]

No big deal, I'll just dilute it for him at 50mg/ml should solve the problem, I'll report back.

aaand i will man up and use sauna more

not sure where to buy mct oil and other stuff. in quad it wasnt that bad tbh. glutes were much worse

 

[Sampei]

Would be helpful to learn how you go about this exactly, as I am also in this boat.

Very easy dude, for every 10ml of TNE you need to add 4ml of sterile MCT oil.

 

[OilCarrier]

Very easy dude, for every 10ml of TNE you need to add 4ml of sterile MCT oil.

thanks. your calculation was as follows?

you divided 70 by 50 = 1.4 to get the equivalent ml for ml dosage as if it were 50 mg/ml.
Then 1.4 x 10 for the 10 ml equivalent is 14 ml (what it should be in total.)

Question about procedure: you pull new mct oil in syringe, then pull out the 10ml into that syringe as well, then push it all through a 22um syringe filter? or do you reheat first to about 60 celsius?

 

[OilCarrier]

aaand i will man up and use sauna more

not sure where to buy mct oil and other stuff. in quad it wasnt that bad tbh. glutes were much worse

amazon.

 

[Sampei]

thanks. your calculation was as follows?

you divided 70 by 50 = 1.4 to get the equivalent ml for ml dosage as if it were 50 mg/ml.
Then 1.4 x 10 for the 10 ml equivalent is 14 ml (what it should be in total.)

Question about procedure: you pull new mct oil in syringe, then pull out the 10ml into that syringe as well, then push it all through a 22um syringe filter? or do you reheat first to about 60 celsius?

I'll personally just decap all the vials, throw it all into a beaker, add the MCT oil and refilter all into new vials, this is just because I have tons of sterile vials and my vials are just better in anyway to his vials (even tho his vials are ok hey, I'm not shitting on dutch). It's just more conveniente to do like this for me.

You don't need to reheat anything, just pull 2ml and add 2 ml of sterile MCT and pour those 2 extra ML of TNE in a sterile vial and keep adding TNe from the other vials to that new vial while diluting with sterile MCT the other vials of just do whatever it's easier for you.

Heating the solution it makes just the filtering quicker, apart from that it doesn't change anything

 

[OilCarrier]

I'll personally just decap all the vials, throw it all into a beaker, add the MCT oil and refilter all into new vials, this is just because I have tons of sterile vials and my vials are just better in anyway to his vials (even tho his vials are ok hey, I'm not shitting on dutch). It's just more conveniente to do like this for me.

You don't need to reheat anything, just pull 2ml and add 2 ml of sterile MCT and pour those 2 extra ML of TNE in a sterile vial and keep adding TNe from the other vials to that new vial while diluting with sterile MCT the other vials of just do whatever it's easier for you.

Heating the solution it makes just the filtering quicker, apart from that it doesn't change anything

hehe. thanks. I had the same in mind, wasn't going to micro manage all the vials individually. I'll just put it all into one bigger vial.

you prefer bottle top or syringe filters?

 

[Photon]

I'll personally just decap all the vials, throw it all into a beaker, add the MCT oil and refilter all into new vials, this is just because I have tons of sterile vials and my vials are just better in anyway to his vials (even tho his vials are ok hey, I'm not shitting on dutch). It's just more conveniente to do like this for me.

You don't need to reheat anything, just pull 2ml and add 2 ml of sterile MCT and pour those 2 extra ML of TNE in a sterile vial and keep adding TNe from the other vials to that new vial while diluting with sterile MCT the other vials of just do whatever it's easier for you.

Heating the solution it makes just the filtering quicker, apart from that it doesn't change anything

Good time to mix compounds too...
Maybe add some mtren, adrol, sdrol etc.

 

[Sampei]

hehe. thanks. I had the same in mind, wasn't going to micro manage all the vials individually. I'll just put it all into one bigger vial.

you prefer bottle top or syringe filters?

I syringe filter, as the volume I do is low and if makes room for less error and possible contaminations

 

[sliderke]

I bought a kit of this too and it has pip too. It’s weird because in the past I was using a test e at 323mg in mct no super solvents and it was pipless. That’s why I pulled the trigger on those high concentrations.

Now I’ve mixed in a vial test e400, test d400, EQ and npp and I have a big knot from today’s pin, only 1ml total.

I also bought a 5vial kit of his test d400. But haven’t used it yet. So you’re saying it pips also? Second batch of tne it also on the way. Also with pip apparently.
Mmm.

 

[Realbandid]

I also bought a 5vial kit of his test d400. But haven’t used it yet. So you’re saying it pips also? Second batch of tne it also on the way. Also with pip apparently.
Mmm.

In another posting, you said that you used the Test E 250 without any pip. Can you confirm that again? The second Batch i have looks a little bit yellowish. The other items are very clear, so i was wondering about it.

 

[Eddie.]

next time go for C at 250mg/ml... 0 issues with it..

maybe try sourcing mct oil and reduce concentration. if that doesnt help, its E ester probably..?

My last resort if I can't tolerate it anymore is buying a kit of test c (200mg/ml would be even better) and mix all three esters.

I also bought a 5vial kit of his test d400. But haven’t used it yet. So you’re saying it pips also? Second batch of tne it also on the way. Also with pip apparently.
Mmm.

Look, i first tried 0,44ml of test E400 and 0,3ml of another EQ at 300mg/ml in my pec. It gave me inflammation, was swollen and red for 4 days. Pip wasn't bad but i had a golf ball knot.

Then i tried the same ratio with test D instead and shoot my delt. I didn't have inflammation or any knots but the pip was bad, like slightly worse than the primo i used to use.

Perhaps the issue it's on me and can't tolerate that high concentration gear, i don't know. Thing is i had the chance to buy test c but my stupid head insisted to not try the normal concentration test C and chose the E400. Anyway.. live and learn.

 

[sliderke]

In another posting, you said that you used the Test E 250 without any pip. Can you confirm that again? The second Batch i have looks a little bit yellowish. The other items are very clear, so i was wondering about it.

I ordered test e250 early this year when he just launched. That one was clear and without pip.
Then the first batch teste400 which had a very little pip.

Test d400 is here but not yet used it.

Tne first batch without pip but some vials cristalised so he send me a new batch which is second gen but have not used that. That one supposedly gives pip by others users.

 

[BabaJagga]

I ordered test e250 early this year when he just launched. That one was clear and without pip.
Then the first batch teste400 which had a very little pip.

Test d400 is here but not yet used it.

Tne first batch without pip but some vials cristalised so he send me a new batch which is second gen but have not used that. That one supposedly gives pip by others users.

try pinning 1ml into quad and let us know
you know, science..