Any statements like that need to be backed up with facts. We’ll be waiting for your test result from Janoshik. It would be nice if, for once, someone making bold claims actually provided at least one piece of proof.
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I don’t see a single actual test here, just some text. Probably only kids would believe that, because the community already knows that every real test should be verified with a code on the lab’s official website, not just something photoshopped.
You showed a result of 106.4 pmol/L – that’s within the normal male range, not high.
My first question is – what was your E2 level before, and why are you even using aromatase inhibitors if you’re not taking testosterone? What’s the reason behind that?
Secondly, I’ve honestly never seen anyone take 2.5 mg of letrozole every day. That’s an extremely high dose — unnecessary even for guys on heavy testosterone cycles — and you said you’re not using testosterone at all.
That got me thinking – what actually happens when someone uses such high doses? Here’s what I found:
PARADOXICAL INCREASE OF E2 ON HIGH DOSES OF LETROZOLE
This is officially documented in clinical studies and medical literature.
The paradox happens because of compensatory regulation of the HPG axis and aromatase expression:
• Sharp drop in estradiol → increase in gonadotropins → increased androgen synthesis
• More androgens → more substrate for aromatization → E2 may rise again
A complete “zero” estradiol level is physiologically impossible.
Where estradiol comes from in men:
• Aromatization of testosterone and androstenedione
• Conversion in adipose (fat) tissue
• Smaller production in bones, brain, and Leydig cells
Even 99% aromatase inhibition still leaves 1% enzyme activity, which is enough to keep E2 at 5–20 pg/mL.
Non-aromatase pathways that can still raise E2:
• STS (steroid sulfatase) – converts circulating estrone sulfate (E1S) → estrone (E1) → estradiol
• 17β-HSD1 – converts estrone → estradiol without aromatase
There’s also evidence that massive aromatase blockade increases CYP19A1 gene expression – that’s the gene encoding aromatase. More CYP19A1 = more aromatization capacity.
The male endocrine system resists “zero estradiol”
Because E2 affects many vital functions:
• Bone health
• Libido
• Lipid balance
• Cardiovascular protection
So, when you block aromatase too hard, the body compensates by:
• Upregulating CYP19A1 (aromatase gene)
• Increasing E2 receptor sensitivity
• Boosting local aromatization in tissues like the brain
That’s why E2 never truly hits zero, no matter what inhibitor you use.
While digging into this, I found multiple studies showing that even with such high doses, you might not end up with extremely low readings — and there are many biological reasons for that.
If you genuinely want to prove our product is “empty,” just do it the proper way as everyone does on this forum:
Send your tablets to a lab test (for example, Janoshik) and post the result here.
You’ll also earn €200 in store credit from us for that test.
It’s simple, transparent, and will give everyone a clear answer.
These are official results from a Swiss laboratory. Every citizen can submit one sample per month. Most drugs are submitted. However, a few sealed Driada vials were also submitted with this result. This laboratory, which is under government supervision, can be trusted more than a private individual like Jano, who has deals with labs to give them positive reviews.
Aspirin 11
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How much does it cost to send Primo to Janoshik for analysis?
Buffering
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I've been looking at the lab's website and there's a section to view the specific test results, but since Jano or Analyza requires a test reference number, please give us a number so we can check it, otherwise we have no way to verify those results...
These are official results from a Swiss laboratory. Every citizen can submit one sample per month. Most drugs are submitted. However, a few sealed Driada vials were also submitted with this result. This laboratory, which is under government supervision, can be trusted more than a private individual like Jano, who has deals with labs to give them positive reviews.
Fluffyde
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You said the sample of Driada Primo was "empty"
But the test reports shows 94mg methenolone enanthate..
Am i the only one confused?
Read it again, he made a joke. As in it contained no "fake" compounds such as test or EQ, but actually primo.
Fluffyde
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Ahh. Now i get it
Eddie.
Member
Same here, ordered Nov 15 and received today. All good!
Aspirin 11
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Leave some for the rest of us! Damn. Nice order
Fluffyde
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Better than Christmas eve
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koast123
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ive injected tren enan by itself and no pip, so the responsible is the Test cyp BATCH: 39240. The pip, lumps and knots are unbearable. Dont know what to do, i ordered 40 VIALS!
Send a vial to AB og Madsens and get it tested
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