MESO-Rx Sponsor Driada Medical

[Driada Medical]

Hi, could you please tell me what carrier oil is used in your Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg/ml vials, and whether you use any solvents such as benzyl benzoate (BB) or ethyl oleate (EO)?

Please read our article where we fully describe the composition of our products here

https://driadashop.to/blog/news/carrier-oils

 

[Driada Medical]

Ye fake tasts are also common from competitors too … its ugl its already ilegal no downsites for them to bash someone except everyones (self) morals ur “premium brand” people are gonna go after you

In fact, we are very grateful to two types of people. The first are those who tried the product, got results, and trust us. Deceiving our customers is like shooting ourselves in the foot. The second type of people we are grateful to are those who conduct blind tests. This is the best way to check any brand.

As for our major competitors, whom we respect (I won’t promote them here, but you know who I’m talking about), I’m more than confident that these people work honestly because, like us, they have something to lose — an army of loyal customers.

However, there are many small one-day brands. They are hardly visible online and are sold through dealers and from hand to hand. Trainers sell testosterone in gyms for 60-80 euros, while the average online price would be 35-40. The quality of these products cannot be verified, they have no websites, no verification codes, and nothing to confirm the authenticity of the product except the words of the trainer. These brands are very cheap for wholesalers, so they can push out more popular brands in offline sales. That’s the market.

But when trainers’ clients start searching online and realize that testosterone shouldn’t cost 80 euros, they begin buying it there. This is exactly what happened during our November promotion, and of course, the offline market lost many clients.

What’s most disappointing is that producers of such brands can only lower prices for resellers by reducing quality and concentration mg/ml. What difference does it make whether it’s 250 mg or 100 mg of testosterone in 1 ml if a guy at the gym, following the advice of a poor trainer, is injecting 1200 mg per week?

 

[newAnabolicUser-4321]

But when trainers’ clients start searching online and realize that testosterone shouldn’t cost 80 euros, they begin buying it there. This is exactly what happened during our November promotion, and of course, the offline market lost many clients.

Thats exactly my case.

First cycle, through a friend's dealer. My friend was a doctor, but wouldnt care much and just use what the dealer would give him. Short pct, off cycle hcg. Deca without test. No ai on hand.

Then, I started reading online and discovered that:
Trenbolone or deca werent good compounds for first cycle.
No base test was a big bad idea.
If such compounds could not be sold to human, what was the pharma doing selling it?

Kept reading online, learnt about intra cycle hcg, ai, UGL.

Made my first order to driada after lots of research. For me, my boyfriend and a friend.
Driada adviced on the cycle.
Results were evident. Phisical and mental (friend got so nasty with tren he fucked his relationship)


Since then, a faithful client of driada.

They might fail me in the future, but not complains yet.

 

[Driada Medical]

Thats exactly my case.

First cycle, through a friend's dealer. My friend was a doctor, but wouldnt care much and just use what the dealer would give him. Short pct, off cycle hcg. Deca without test. No ai on hand.

Then, I started reading online and discovered that:
Trenbolone or deca werent good compounds for first cycle.
No base test was a big bad idea.
If such compounds could not be sold to human, what was the pharma doing selling it?

Kept reading online, learnt about intra cycle hcg, ai, UGL.

Made my first order to driada after lots of research. For me, my boyfriend and a friend.
Driada adviced on the cycle.
Results were evident. Phisical and mental (friend got so nasty with tren he fucked his relationship)


Since then, a faithful client of driada.

They might fail me in the future, but not complains yet.

Honestly, I’m really glad if we were able to help. My main goal is to get the right information about steroids out there, at least at a basic level. I started this journey back in 2011 when I first used Dbol, and I did it without testosterone or anti-estrogens. Luckily, I knew about PCT. I didn’t do blood tests, but I had enough sense to take tamoxifen after the cycle.

My second cycle was 750 mg of testosterone and 40-50 mg of Dbol, and by the third one, it was 750 mg of testosterone, 400 mg of nandrolone, and the same Dbol. Now I realize it was a bit crazy, but my young body somehow survived (thanks to it).

And of course, I really wish the new generation could avoid the mistakes I made. There’s so much more information available now, and the knowledge is broader. You just have to know how to tell the good stuff from the crap, especially when it’s coming from trainer-peddlers who couldn’t care less about your health.

 

[sliderke]

What are delivery times to eu at the moment?

 

[newAnabolicUser-4321]

from trainer-peddlers who couldn’t care less about your health.

In this case not even that. He himself dis not use hcg at all. So probably just old school.

 

[epote]

There is a tug-of-war going on between Chinese raw material suppliers and Western steroid manufacturers.

Methenolone E. powder is still available, but as some European manufacturers said the price has doubled, so far only a few European UGLs have bowed to this crazy increase.

The goal of those who are not buying the Prime E powder is to force the raw material sellers to lower the price.

If this strategy fails, we will pay the Primo E, double what we paid a few months ago.

No offense man but no, whatever primo exists is old stock. It’s not synthesized currently. There is some talk about it being produced again but primo is a peculiar little bugger to synthesize so they need to prioritize other stuff first.

Any primo production will maybe happen next year and that’s assuming the Chinese authorities don’t go hunting again. Which they do. Constantly. And all these guys have to either switch places all the time or do limited runs of 2-4 weeks and then lay low again.

Primo takes close to 10 weeks, uses some very toxic stuff (which are also controlled now) and gives very variable yields even if everything goes well. If you as a producer has to choose between a ton of test e in 4 weeks or 200kg of primo (that might end up being 100 regardless if your skill) in 10 weeks what would you choose?

 

[georgian91]

Please read our article where we fully describe the composition of our products here

https://driadashop.to/blog/news/carrier-oils

Thanks for the clarification. I just watched VigourSteve’s video about EO, where he said to avoid it at all costs. I’m new to this field and about to place my first order from Driada (caber, isotretinoin, testosterone, anastrozole, etc.), and I’m trying to figure out whether he has a point about EO potentially causing systemic inflammation and being harmful in the long term. Even though I don’t fully believe everything I see online or what influencers say, I want to do my own research. I’m also considering Driada since their prices are really good, they’re EU-based, and their customer support seems very solid. What’s your take on EO potentially increasing hsCRP? Does it vary from person to person, depending on tolerance and genetics?

 

[TyLu17]

Thanks for the clarification. I just watched VigourSteve’s video about EO, where he said to avoid it at all costs. I’m new to this field and about to place my first order from Driada (caber, isotretinoin, testosterone, anastrozole, etc.), and I’m trying to figure out whether he has a point about EO potentially causing systemic inflammation and being harmful in the long term. Even though I don’t fully believe everything I see online or what influencers say, I want to do my own research. I’m also considering Driada since their prices are really good, they’re EU-based, and their customer support seems very solid. What’s your take on EO potentially increasing hsCRP? Does it vary from person to person, depending on tolerance and genetics?

Every Chinese manufacturer uses EO. Even EU pharmaceuticals use EO.
I think this whole EO issue is a bit exaggerated.
If it's really that bad, you don't really hear much about it, except from influencers.
Don't you think more negative cases are known?
Try it, do blood tests, and form your own opinion…

 

[Driada Medical]

What are delivery times to eu at the moment?

I can’t give an exact timeframe, as it depends on the country you’re in. Some of our shipping solutions are very fast — 3–6 days depending on your location, while others take a bit longer — 7–14 days. Recently, there were some delays due to promotions and overloaded warehouses, but now everything is running normally.

We work every day to find increasingly efficient and reliable shipping solutions.

 

[Driada Medical]

In this case not even that. He himself dis not use hcg at all. So probably just old school.

Unfortunately, I started using HCG much later, when I realized how essential this product is in a cycle, especially when it comes to stimulating steroidogenesis, which is responsible for the production of neurosteroids.

 

[Driada Medical]

No offense man but no, whatever primo exists is old stock. It’s not synthesized currently. There is some talk about it being produced again but primo is a peculiar little bugger to synthesize so they need to prioritize other stuff first.

Any primo production will maybe happen next year and that’s assuming the Chinese authorities don’t go hunting again. Which they do. Constantly. And all these guys have to either switch places all the time or do limited runs of 2-4 weeks and then lay low again.

Primo takes close to 10 weeks, uses some very toxic stuff (which are also controlled now) and gives very variable yields even if everything goes well. If you as a producer has to choose between a ton of test e in 4 weeks or 200kg of primo (that might end up being 100 regardless if your skill) in 10 weeks what would you choose?

I mentioned this earlier — the companies that are selling Primo now are those who managed to buy the raw materials in time. Whether China will open up again is a big question because suppliers previously promised they would start production in June, but as we can see, June has long passed, and there’s still no new raw material.

 

[Driada Medical]

Thanks for the clarification. I just watched VigourSteve’s video about EO, where he said to avoid it at all costs. I’m new to this field and about to place my first order from Driada (caber, isotretinoin, testosterone, anastrozole, etc.), and I’m trying to figure out whether he has a point about EO potentially causing systemic inflammation and being harmful in the long term. Even though I don’t fully believe everything I see online or what influencers say, I want to do my own research. I’m also considering Driada since their prices are really good, they’re EU-based, and their customer support seems very solid. What’s your take on EO potentially increasing hsCRP? Does it vary from person to person, depending on tolerance and genetics?

This topic has been discussed on the forum for quite a while, but the problem is that everyone references VigourSteve as the source, as well as one single article, which I believe was done on mice. I haven't seen anything more, despite searching the entire internet.

Regarding VigourSteve, what do you think, considering his big authority among PED users, could he make a promotional move where he talks about the harm of EO (even though most companies in the market use it) to promote something else? For example, a brand that doesn't use it? Can we hypothetically assume this? I don’t want to accuse anyone of something I don’t know, but...

Regarding hsCRP — this protein has never been elevated for me, nor has regular CRP, even though I’ve been using steroids with the addition of EO since at least 2014, when my friend started adding it to his brand (a small but good brand he poured his soul into) to reduce oil viscosity.

I don’t believe that EO does not raise this protein, at least not in most people. First of all, it can rise for many reasons (which can be found in the GPT chat). To be honest, the best thing you can do is take a short ester like propionate, inject it, and then do an hsCRP test several times before and after the injection (about 5-6 times). That’s the minimum you can do to figure out if it’s rising in your case.

 

[Driada Medical]

Every Chinese manufacturer uses EO. Even EU pharmaceuticals use EO.
I think this whole EO issue is a bit exaggerated.
If it's really that bad, you don't really hear much about it, except from influencers.
Don't you think more negative cases are known?
Try it, do blood tests, and form your own opinion…

I 100% agree with you and I wanna say more to young and newbies guys

Guys, let’s be honest. I’m the one representing the brand that sells anabolic steroids, and our main interest is to sell more steroids, that is our business.

But for every beginner who wants to buy, I’ll say this:

• Yes, steroids can be harmful, just like any other medication.
• Steroids at high doses are always harmful.
• If you’re not a competitive athlete, NEVER use more than 1000 mg of steroids (mixed) per week.
• If 250 mg of testosterone per week is enough for progress, don’t increase the dose.
• Don’t use trenbolone unless you’re a competitive athlete.
• Use aromatase inhibitors, HCG.
• Don’t ignore homocysteine (we wrote an article about it), hematocrit (we wrote an article about it), cholesterol, and so on. We’ve written a lot about this.
• And there’s still a ton of things I tell people every day.

But... don’t look for hidden dangers where there are none. No EO will harm you more than trenbolone, reckless cycles with huge steroid doses, and overtraining.

Just be smart about it. If you want everything to be safe and effective, approach it with some thought.

 

[epote]

I 100% agree with you and I wanna say more to young and newbies guys

Guys, let’s be honest. I’m the one representing the brand that sells anabolic steroids, and our main interest is to sell more steroids, that is our business.

But for every beginner who wants to buy, I’ll say this:

• Yes, steroids can be harmful, just like any other medication.
• Steroids at high doses are always harmful.
• If you’re not a competitive athlete, NEVER use more than 1000 mg of steroids (mixed) per week.
• If 250 mg of testosterone per week is enough for progress, don’t increase the dose.
• Don’t use trenbolone unless you’re a competitive athlete.
• Use aromatase inhibitors, HCG.
• Don’t ignore homocysteine (we wrote an article about it), hematocrit (we wrote an article about it), cholesterol, and so on. We’ve written a lot about this.
• And there’s still a ton of things I tell people every day.

But... don’t look for hidden dangers where there are none. No EO will harm you more than trenbolone, reckless cycles with huge steroid doses, and overtraining.

Just be smart about it. If you want everything to be safe and effective, approach it with some thought.

lol what the. I like this guy. 100% listen to what he says. Never in my 25 years in this business have I ever seen anyone detach themselves from the bro science stuff and talk actual physiology. Kudos.

 

[Driada Medical]

lol what the. I like this guy. 100% listen to what he says. Never in my 25 years in this business have I ever seen anyone detach themselves from the bro science stuff and talk actual physiology. Kudos.

Thanks, bro. I have to admit I don’t have deep knowledge, but I try to learn as much as I can, keep an eye on modern trends among influencers, and pay close attention to studies. I’m almost 40, and I’ve started paying more attention to my health, which naturally reflects on my views.

I don’t want guys to ruin their health and then look back at us as the cause of it. I’d feel much better knowing that I did something useful (I’m trying to do that) and talked someone out of using trenbolone (I used it for years, and you know, I wouldn’t do it now).

For most of our clients who use 1500 mg a week, 500 mg would be more than enough. Their progress wouldn’t change, and their health would be in better shape.

And of course, we need to think about the fact that supplements are essential for people using steroids. Right now, it’s a trend, and it’s the right trend. But in the remote Italian and Spanish villages, the shelves are full of creatine, BCAA, and pre-workout, when they should be stocked with berberine, astragalus, ashwagandha, nattokinase, and citrus bergamot.

 

[newAnabolicUser-4321]

I don’t want guys to ruin their health and then look back at us as the cause of it.

What I like from driada is that they wont sell just everything. Theres a statement on their forums about never selling cardarine because of its pottential risks.

I know they are here for the money, but also have limits

 

[Driada Medical]

What I like from driada is that they wont sell just everything. Theres a statement on their forums about never selling cardarine because of its pottential risks.

I know they are here for the money, but also have limits

Regarding Cardarine, I must admit that within our team, we also had a discussion about its potential harm. There is significant evidence that at high doses, it can provoke cancer, as proven in animal models. Many people still use this product, but we don’t have real statistics on whether it increases the risk of cancer when used. This is definitely a contentious issue.

My personal opinion was based on one influencer (who is quite well-known and popular), whom I knew personally and constantly followed his updates on his blog. He argued against Cardarine for a long time but later softened his position, saying that at doses around 20 mg, the risks are probably not significant, at least not greater than those associated with using any anabolic substances. As we know, high IGF-1 levels also negatively affect the formation and growth of cancer cells.

As for other products like DNP, we definitely won’t be producing it. We also won’t work with steroids that have high concentrations per ml due to the use of guaiacol as a solvent.

 

[tomro]

I 100% agree with you and I wanna say more to young and newbies guys

Guys, let’s be honest. I’m the one representing the brand that sells anabolic steroids, and our main interest is to sell more steroids, that is our business.

But for every beginner who wants to buy, I’ll say this:

• Yes, steroids can be harmful, just like any other medication.
• Steroids at high doses are always harmful.
• If you’re not a competitive athlete, NEVER use more than 1000 mg of steroids (mixed) per week.
• If 250 mg of testosterone per week is enough for progress, don’t increase the dose.
• Don’t use trenbolone unless you’re a competitive athlete.
• Use aromatase inhibitors, HCG.
• Don’t ignore homocysteine (we wrote an article about it), hematocrit (we wrote an article about it), cholesterol, and so on. We’ve written a lot about this.
• And there’s still a ton of things I tell people every day.

But... don’t look for hidden dangers where there are none. No EO will harm you more than trenbolone, reckless cycles with huge steroid doses, and overtraining.

Just be smart about it. If you want everything to be safe and effective, approach it with some thought.

Probably the most responsible message I have ever seen from a vendor that sells the drugs props to you for not just wanting to make profit at any cost

 

[Fluffyde]

Regarding Cardarine, I must admit that within our team, we also had a discussion about its potential harm. There is significant evidence that at high doses, it can provoke cancer, as proven in animal models. Many people still use this product, but we don’t have real statistics on whether it increases the risk of cancer when used. This is definitely a contentious issue.

My personal opinion was based on one influencer (who is quite well-known and popular), whom I knew personally and constantly followed his updates on his blog. He argued against Cardarine for a long time but later softened his position, saying that at doses around 20 mg, the risks are probably not significant, at least not greater than those associated with using any anabolic substances. As we know, high IGF-1 levels also negatively affect the formation and growth of cancer cells.

As for other products like DNP, we definitely won’t be producing it. We also won’t work with steroids that have high concentrations per ml due to the use of guaiacol as a solvent.

Sorry if i change the subject now, but regarding igf1-lr3. Will it raise the Igf-1 levels measured in a blood test?
I would like to hear experiences from people using igf1-lr3 and doing bloodwork including igf1

Acording to chatgpt it wont.