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Does Low Testosterone Levels Pre-dispose you to injury?
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Hogg
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Ronin_ said:
IMHO, excessive use of gear predisposes you to injury....without gear, your rate of strength gain is not sufficient enough to put you at risk. With steroids, obviously, the rate of force increase in contractile proteins is not commensurate with increases in connective tissue strength and along with a decreased modulus of elasticity in the tendon, injuries can become more prevalent. Consider that with even mild dosages of testosterone, say 300-400mg/wk, strength increases far exceed those found when training naturally. Combine that with increased force output as a result of fluid/nitrogen packing in the cells and the problem is magnified - the hydraulic effect.
I've noticed that I am far less injury prone being off, matter of fact, nothing hurts. Now mind you, it could be a combined effect of reduced loading as well as the extended rest I have taken lately but I am fairly certain that my predisposition toward injury increased the longer that I was on. I have done a couple of 6 month cycles now and months 5-6 seemed to be my worst months in both cases.
I believe that this has to do with the lack of cortisol. Typically, cortisol attacks the muscle cells during/after recovery such that what your ultimate gain between training session is reduced. Perhaps this is the body's way of dealing with scar tissue. With steroids, cortisol is held at bay and scar tissue builds upon scar tissue.
These are all just theories that I have come up with from my years, I have no papers to cite nor any figures to provide yet we all know how testosterone and cortisol work (I assume) thus I feel fairly comfortable in tendering this topic for discussion.
As I write this, I'm sitting here thinking about what Sir Isaac Newton once said (paraphrasing) - if you cannot express a topic mathematically, you really dont know what the hell you are talking about. Unfortunately for me, this entire subject is not in my field and I'm not apt to take a shot at it from a mathematical basis.
Hi Hogg - bro Ive been off the sauce for 16 months. I did a few weeks of deca only last july to try and strengthen stuff up but quit as hate deca alone - of course this was long enough for me to be completely suppressed, especially given at 125mg test a week I am 100% suppressed...
So basicly Ive had low test - about 60ng so VERY low for over a year. I got zero injuries when on gear, it was not until commencing training again in July 03 after 6 months off all training things started falling apart, Im talking injuries very easy, training light and easy
So basicly Ive had low test - about 60ng so VERY low for over a year. I got zero injuries when on gear, it was not until commencing training again in July 03 after 6 months off all training things started falling apart, Im talking injuries very easy, training light and easy
I fall into Newton's theory on this one...can't prove it mathematically, but I'll try bullshitting my way through it. This is actually a theory, or hypothesis if you will.
Is it possible that the amount of water retention throughtout AAS years could have kept your joints and muscles lubed enough to prevent excessive injuries (or at least feel any pain)?
Is it possible that the amount of water retention throughtout AAS years could have kept your joints and muscles lubed enough to prevent excessive injuries (or at least feel any pain)?
maybe bro I just know since since sept 03 in 10 weeks of training I pulled my adductors, my right knee hurt too much to train, I pulled my right tricep - and that has a knot of scar tissue in now, that catches when i extent my arm, finally i pulled my left bicep. At which point I got very pissed and jacked training in, and put on 20lbs over the next 4 months lol. I trained easy and light, built it up, and at no point went above 90% effort
Bro i dread the point in my life when i can't life the way i want, but after an ACL replacement in one knee, a PCL reconstruction in the other, and elbow surgery, I am going to be a mess one day. I wish we could find out what causes the problems you are having, especialy if it's something other than wear and tear.Ronin_ said:
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The one thing I have learned fom my injuries is to give up on the heavy lifting all the time. I still lift heavy fom time to time to break the routine up, but for the most part I stick to light to moderate weight at 10-12 reps to help bring out the cut in the muscles and I can still build from that. I have been lifting for 15 years and have met most of my goals so now at my age I am happy just keeping my body in graet shape.Ronin_ said:
ENDRO said:
yeah I should perhaps stick to 10-12 reps and train easy, the pulls were training around about 8 reps, with 80-90% effort - i.e. could have got 10 reps with good form. There is definitely something wrong with my body and as I have v low test in black and white - that's all I can think of
Ronin_ said:
60ng is very low it would be impossiable to keep mass with that number, I would guess your muscles where flat and kinda saggy and you put on body fat easily. I would venture to guess your muscles have wasted away from lack of test kinda like elderly people do.
Are you on test now?
ENDRO said:
it is hard to keep muscle and strength, and I have gone upto 15% BF, but the main thing is the injuries, and I have zero libido, and erectile functioning is very poor, I wouldn't be joking to say I need Viagra to jerk off lol
I am not on test at the moment, but 100mg clomid ED, as I want to do things through a doctor the proper way, and they will refuse me treatment if Ive been self medicating
