Do these sound like MENT side effects?

[mrsloppyboo]

Hey guys. Currently I am running MENT (trestolone acetate) for the first time.

Cycle is:
Test blend: (175mg ace, 225mg prop, 200mg cyp) -600mg (1cc) weekly
EQ: 600mg weekly
GH: 6iu daily
MENT: 25mg daily

Coming out of a deload week after an aggressive cut, I am currently finishing week 2 of this bulk. (been on MENT 25mg for 11 days)

Week 1 was amazing. Energy was back. Woke up feeling great. Appetite was huge.
I should also mention I am a low aromatizer and can run my test and EQ 1:1 no issue.

SYMPTOMS:
Over the past few days I’ve woke up feeling strange. More lethargic, slight bloated stomach, and feeling full and “gross” as if I had just eaten a large bowl of popcorn. Appetite seems to be a bit suppressed as well. In the mornings when I wake up I feel almost sick like. Occasionally I’ll get extremely bloated and very gassy just from eating my regular meal of chicken breast and rice. Mentally I am a bit shorter tempered which isn’t an issue. Slightly worsened mood overall.

Gym performance is still good and am progressing as normal. Body weight is same as day 1. Looking slightly fuller in the mirror. Traps, delts, and chest have filled out a bit. However I am still feeling a bit flat. I don’t look watery at all. Abs still show and vascularity is great.

Do these sound like side effects from the MENT or something else entirely? I should also mention this is my first time running a test blend as I usually use Cyp (blend was much cheaper)

 

[Photon]

Hey guys. Currently I am running MENT (trestolone acetate) for the first time.

Cycle is:
Test blend: (175mg ace, 225mg prop, 200mg cyp) -600mg (1cc) weekly
EQ: 600mg weekly
GH: 6iu daily
MENT: 25mg daily

Coming out of a deload week after an aggressive cut, I am currently finishing week 2 of this bulk. (been on MENT 25mg for 11 days)

Week 1 was amazing. Energy was back. Woke up feeling great. Appetite was huge.
I should also mention I am a low aromatizer and can run my test and EQ 1:1 no issue.

SYMPTOMS:
Over the past few days I’ve woke up feeling strange. More lethargic, slight bloated stomach, and feeling full and “gross” as if I had just eaten a large bowl of popcorn. Appetite seems to be a bit suppressed as well. In the mornings when I wake up I feel almost sick like. Occasionally I’ll get extremely bloated and very gassy just from eating my regular meal of chicken breast and rice. Mentally I am a bit shorter tempered which isn’t an issue. Slightly worsened mood overall.

Gym performance is still good and am progressing as normal. Body weight is same as day 1. Looking slightly fuller in the mirror. Traps, delts, and chest have filled out a bit. However I am still feeling a bit flat. I don’t look watery at all. Abs still show and vascularity is great.

Do these sound like side effects from the MENT or something else entirely? I should also mention this is my first time running a test blend as I usually use Cyp (blend was much cheaper)

I'd drop ment by 1/2 at least
How's your nips feeling? More sensitive?

 

[mrsloppyboo]

I'd drop ment by 1/2 at least
How's your nips feeling? More sensitive?

Nips are fine. I’ve never been prone to gyno. I’ve ran test 1g with no AI control before no issues except the obvious water retention. I’m thinking all this is caused by MENT but have never read any logs where people described feeling this way

 

[bananafeet]

Nips are fine. I’ve never been prone to gyno. I’ve ran test 1g with no AI control before no issues except the obvious water retention. I’m thinking all this is caused by MENT but have never read any logs where people described feeling this way

Trenemy said he had high E2 effects that was like morning sickness when his E2 got into the female range.

I never confirmed but it seems plausible E2 could have nausea or stomach effects. I'm not an expert but I know estrogen and seratonin are linked somehow and SSRI side effects include gastrointestinal issues.

So my guess is it's 7a-estrodial from the ment.

Your running short esters which aromatise so the only logical conclusion would be estrogens.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

Trenemy said he had high E2 effects that was like morning sickness when his E2 got into the female range.

I never confirmed but it seems plausible E2 could have nausea or stomach effects. I'm not an expert but I know estrogen and seratonin are linked somehow and SSRI side effects include gastrointestinal issues.

So my guess is it's 7a-estrodial from the ment.

Your running short esters which aromatise so the only logical conclusion would be estrogens.

I’m thinking so too. I took 12.5mg Aromasin last night. Woke up this morning feeling even MORE lethargic/sick. I like Trenemy but there is so much dumb shit mixed in his vids I find him hard to watch

Edit: should I try another aromasin tonight? Morning sickness is describing it basically spot on. I ONLY feel like that in the mornings and it tapers off and I notice near the end of the day I have no appetite

 

[bananafeet]

I’m thinking so too. I took 12.5mg Aromasin last night. Woke up this morning feeling even MORE lethargic/sick. I like Trenemy but there is so much dumb shit mixed in his vids I find him hard to watch

Edit: should I try another aromasin tonight? Morning sickness is describing it basically spot on. I ONLY feel like that in the mornings and it tapers off and I notice near the end of the day I have no appetite

Honestly it's out of my expertise range. Aromasin doesn't knock out all your estrogen. I was on 25mg per week when I was a fatty to control my E2.

My trt doc told me to take 25mg at once when my E2 was high then 12.5mg twice a week.

The estrogen is a reason why people can't handle ment. I did 20mg of ment per day for 5 days and that's actually a high dose. Why not lower the dose?

I think ment is like 2 or 3 times stronger than Tren.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

Honestly it's out of my expertise range. Aromasin doesn't knock out all your estrogen. I was on 25mg per week when I was a fatty to control my E2.

My trt doc told me to take 25mg at once when my E2 was high then 12.5mg twice a week.

The estrogen is a reason why people can't handle ment. I did 20mg of ment per day for 5 days and that's actually a high dose. Why not lower the dose?

I think ment is like 2 or 3 times stronger than Tren.

Supposedly 13-15x stronger than test. Going to run 25mg few more days. Might drop to 15 if can’t dial in e2. I’m 10% bf which is another reason I’m confused. 1g test at 15% and now 600mg at 10% +25mg ment. Guess ment really is that strong

 

[bananafeet]

Supposedly 13-15x stronger than test. Going to run 25mg few more days. Might drop to 15 if can’t dial in e2. I’m 10% bf which is another reason I’m confused. 1g test at 15% and now 600mg at 10% +25mg ment. Guess ment really is that strong

It's strong AF boi

 

[Photon]

What's your sensitive e2 at?
1:1 with Test and EQ drops my sensitive e2 close to 0 but I still get spicy nips on a lower Trest dose than yours.

Drop your Trest dose.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

What's your sensitive e2 at?
1:1 with Test and EQ drops my sensitive e2 close to 0 but I still get spicy nips on a lower Trest dose than yours.

Drop your Trest dose.

No clue I need to get bloods. I just started this blast

 

[Slowww]

Thats a decent amount of ment to start with. Imo it’s too much as a baseline. Should be like 75 per week to start. I have one friend who does higher doses than that and runs caber with it because he gets the same kind of sides you describe. Gets strange emotional states, abnormal thought processes and so on due to the methylated estradiol and progestins. Definitely at least halve the dose

 

[mrsloppyboo]

Thats a decent amount of ment to start with. Imo it’s too much as a baseline. Should be like 75 per week to start. I have one friend who does higher doses than that and runs caber with it because he gets the same kind of sides you describe. Gets strange emotional states, abnormal thought processes and so on due to the methylated estradiol and progestins. Definitely at least halve the dose

lol I started at 5mg and was convinced to bump it to 25. Glad to hear I’m not the only one getting these sides. I’ve read that AIs don’t help with the sides but prolactin control does. Might also experiment with 2x daily injections. That Trenemy guy said pinning it 2x daily eliminated all sides

 

[accidentaljedi173]

I dosed ment eod, I ran the same cycle with higher test for my off-season. Eq initially stomped my e2 so I came into ment with lower e2 to begin with. I never felt like this, idk why anyone would push through feeling like that. Get blood work and drop ment if you think it's making you feel like shit. Why, are you trying to force a toxic compound like that of you respond poorly?

 

[mrsloppyboo]

I dosed ment eod, I ran the same cycle with higher test for my off-season. Eq initially stomped my e2 so I came into ment with lower e2 to begin with. I never felt like this, idk why anyone would push through feeling like that. Get blood work and drop ment if you think it's making you feel like shit. Why, are you trying to force a toxic compound like that of you respond poorly?

I’ve read from some people’s experiences there is a little hill they climb and afterwards everything is alright. I’ll probably split my 25mg dose today and if I don’t feel oKay by tmrw morning I’ll drop to 15mg daily and assess. How were your gains on MENT? Did you get watery? If so how were the actual muscle tissue gains?

 

[accidentaljedi173]

I’ve read from some people’s experiences there is a little hill they climb and afterwards everything is alright. I’ll probably split my 25mg dose today and if I don’t feel oKay by tmrw morning I’ll drop to 15mg daily and assess. How were your gains on MENT? Did you get watery? If so how were the actual muscle tissue gains?

I loved ment. Strength went up like crazy. Idk how exactly to answer your question, I added ment at the end of the growth phase, after running deca, so I already had some fluff. I have a log if you feel like sifting through it to judge for yourself based on the pics. I'm personally terrible at that kind of stuff.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

I loved ment. Strength went up like crazy. Idk how exactly to answer your question, I added ment at the end of the growth phase, after running deca, so I already had some fluff. I have a log if you feel like sifting through it to judge for yourself based on the pics. I'm personally terrible at that kind of stuff.

Heck yeah I’ll look through your account. Appreciate you bro

 

[sim]

Never had any side effects from MENT as you have described. However, 25mg/d would be too high for me. MENT has a short half life so just drop it for a week and see if things improve. Them you can decide if it is worth restarting but perhaps start at 10mg/day.

 

[mrsloppyboo]

Never had any side effects from MENT as you have described. However, 25mg/d would be too high for me. MENT has a short half life so just drop it for a week and see if things improve. Them you can decide if it is worth restarting but perhaps start at 10mg/day.

Oddly enough I had no negative feeling this morning. Just did my fastest cardio and got out of the shower. Typically I’d be feeling very bloated and “sick”. I’m splitting today’s 25mg dose into morning and night to see if it works. Trenemy has stated that dosing it 2x daily got rid of all his sides

 

[sliderke]

Never had any side effects from MENT as you have described. However, 25mg/d would be too high for me. MENT has a short half life so just drop it for a week and see if things improve. Them you can decide if it is worth restarting but perhaps start at 10mg/day.

Exactly.
Everybody says to lower the dose but you insist on going more days.

I tried ment titrating up from 5mg daily to 20. After 20 I had to stop because my sleep was heavily impacted like on tren.
For me the sweet spot wil be around 15mg.
I did not have any other side effect like high blood pressure or water weight.
Strength went up by a little. More lean mass was not possible since I stopped after 4 weeks.

Will start again with 10mg and titrating up again.

I am only still in doubt besides test what would be the best 3th compound to pair it with.

 

[Slowww]

lol I started at 5mg and was convinced to bump it to 25. Glad to hear I’m not the only one getting these sides. I’ve read that AIs don’t help with the sides but prolactin control does. Might also experiment with 2x daily injections. That Trenemy guy said pinning it 2x daily eliminated all sides

Ai dont help with with methylated estradiol. Idk who trenemy is but do whatever man. Everyone said lower it but you insist on splitting it AM/PM. Why ask for advice then just stick to the YouTube videos or whatever instead of wasting people’s time