Did RU58841 stop hair loss against Tren for those prone to hair loss?

[prher]

The whole list is bs. Like what slop am I even reading? Test P is all good buy the moment you touch test enanthate your in the gutter. LOL

It knows nothing.

Binding affinity is also not all that matters at all. RU itself yes has a short half life, but RU is broken into 2 metabolites which have a half life of about 20 hours + you can reapply twice morning and night to have full blockade 24/7.

Stop quoting chatgpt slop. I appreciate a
the attempt at a reply but would rather none at all if it comes straight from chatgpt who is wrong 99% of the time.

Here's a chart ChatGPT generated, you can see tren at the bottom

Steroid	AR Binding Affinity	Ester / Half-life	RU58841 Effectiveness	Notes
Testosterone base	Moderate	Short	High	Rapid dissociation → frequent AR “windows” for RU58841
Testosterone propionate	Moderate	Short (~1 day)	High	Short ester → fairly easy for RU58841 to compete
Dihydrotestosterone (DHT)	High	Very short	⚖ Moderate	Strong binder but short half-life → RU58841 works if applied consistently
Nandrolone (base or propionate)	Moderate	Short/medium	Moderate	Lower AR affinity than tren → RU58841 can compete
Boldenone (base or acetate)	Moderate	Short/medium	Moderate	Similar to nandrolone, fewer “locked” ARs
Testosterone acetate	Moderate	Short (~1 day)	High	Quick release → AR becomes available often
Testosterone enanthate	Moderate	Long (~7–10 days)	⚠ Low	Long-acting ester → RU58841 cannot consistently block AR
Nandrolone decanoate	Moderate	Long (~7–10 days)	⚠ Low	Long ester, slow hydrolysis → few AR windows
Trenbolone base	Very high	Short	⚠ Low	Strong binder, slow dissociation → RU58841 struggles
Trenbolone acetate	Very high	Short (~2–3 days)	Very low	Strong + slow dissociation + moderate ester → hard to block
Trenbolone enanthate	Very high	Long (~7–10 days)	Very low	Most difficult to block; AR effectively “locked” for days

ChatGPT is using the known pharmacokinetics of tren and ru58841 to deduce its effectiveness,

OP posted: "I would have a hard time believe in that it doesn’t though if you use a high enough concentration of RU to saturate the AR"

Tren has 10-15x more binding affinity to the AR than ru58841, Tren stays bound to the AR a magnitude longer than ru58841. ru58841 is cleared faster from the body than tren. Tren's chemical properties make it the single handed the worst steroid to try to block with a AR antagonist

Erased a chunk to try and not take up a whole page.

There are no significant human studies on tren. So there’s no studies on tren and hair loss. ChatGPT is at best looking through anecdotal evidence which is what this forum exists for.

Anecdotally I’ve read plenty of user experiences that ru maintained hair while on tren cycle. Was my experience as well. And these anecdotes are all we have to go on.

A ChatGPT chart does not bring value to the conversation. Op can just ask ChatGPT himself. And I thought chat was no longer going to use forums as sources? If that’s true then I have no idea where it would get data on a subject like this.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

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appreciate any anecdotes

I am prone to hair loss and Tren-E at 50mg/wk to 160mg/wk did nothing. I take tren on my cruise as well so basically non stop for about 5 months and no hair shedding.

OTOH 20-30mg of Anavar causes all hell breaks loose and hair sheds everywhere a week later... Thats with Finasteride and Minox but never tried it with RU.

 

[prher]

I am prone to hair loss and Tren-E at 50mg/wk to 160mg/wk did nothing. I take tren on my cruise as well so basically non stop for about 5 months and no hair shedding.

OTOH 20-30mg of Anavar causes all hell breaks loose and hair sheds everywhere a week later... Thats with Finasteride and Minox but never tried it with RU.

thanks for input.

160 highest you’ve been?

you’ll likely be fine with var and ru if it was fine against 160 tren. finn won’t do anything for var and if u started minox at the same time as var then you could have expected a minox shed. that or you can’t do var without ru are the explanations for the shed.

 

[thejumpingsheep]

thanks for input.

160 highest you’ve been?

you’ll likely be fine with var and ru if it was fine against 160 tren. finn won’t do anything for var and if u started minox at the same time as var then you could have expected a minox shed. that or you can’t do var without ru are the explanations for the shed.

Ive never gone over 160mg/wk Tren-E. Im fairly new to all this so im taking it slow. I am in cruise right now and gearing up for next cycle. Got Repatha, statins, telmisartan, and glp blockers along with AI and other goodies ready to go. I even got RU but I need to get it tested. Dont trust the source.

I will be pushing Tren a little more next cycle, maybe up to 400mg and I might finally try to blast HGH. Not looking to get huge. Too old for that. But I have one more injury to heal, a partial tear near bicep that has agonized me for 15 years, so I want to optimize muscle growth and focus on it specifically.

I've been on fin/minox a long time. I tried var twice. Once in a Test-C cycle and again in a low test + primo + tren cycle. Each time, shedding like crazy after starting Var. Thats my kryptoniteI guess?

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Howmuch RU are you supposed to be applying daily? Theres so many different variations between mg, % value (ex. 5% solution vs 9%)