Depression & Hallucinogens

Michael Scally MD

Doctor of Medicine
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Nearly five years after a group of cancer patients were given a single dose of a psychedelic drug to ease depression and anxiety, new research finds that many of them are still feeling the positive effects.

The patients were among a group of participants who had been given a dose of synthetic psilocybin — the psychedelic compound found in so-called magic mushrooms — in a 2016 study that looked at whether the drug could help with symptoms of cancer-related depression and anxiety. The drug was given in a controlled setting and the patients were monitored the entire time. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals

As to its effects on anxiety and depression, the psilocybin appeared to work: Eighty percent of the patients reported that their symptoms faded, and the effects lasted six months, the 2016 study found. At the time, this long-lasting effect was a landmark finding.

The new study, published Tuesday in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, followed up with 15 of those patients nearly 5 years later, and found that up to 80 percent were still experiencing significant improvements in cancer-related depression and anxiety. Nearly all of the participants attributed their positive life changes to the psychedelic-assisted therapy. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals





Agin-Liebes GI, Malone T, Yalch MM, et al. Long-term follow-up of psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy for psychiatric and existential distress in patients with life-threatening cancer. Journal of Psychopharmacology 2020;34:155-66. https://doi.org/10.1177/0269881119897615

Background: A recently published randomized controlled trial compared single-dose psilocybin with single-dose niacin in conjunction with psychotherapy in participants with cancer-related psychiatric distress. Results suggested that psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy facilitated improvements in psychiatric and existential distress, quality of life, and spiritual well-being up to seven weeks prior to the crossover. At the 6.5-month follow-up, after the crossover, 60–80% of participants continued to meet criteria for clinically significant antidepressant or anxiolytic responses.

Methods: The present study is a long-term within-subjects follow-up analysis of self-reported symptomatology involving a subset of participants that completed the parent trial. All 16 participants who were still alive were contacted, and 15 participants agreed to participate at an average of 3.2 and 4.5 years following psilocybin administration.

Results: Reductions in anxiety, depression, hopelessness, demoralization, and death anxiety were sustained at the first and second follow-ups. Within-group effect sizes were large. At the second (4.5 year) follow-up approximately 60–80% of participants met criteria for clinically significant antidepressant or anxiolytic responses. Participants overwhelmingly (71–100%) attributed positive life changes to the psilocybin-assisted therapy experience and rated it among the most personally meaningful and spiritually significant experiences of their lives.

Conclusion: These findings suggest that psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy holds promise in promoting long-term relief from cancer-related psychiatric distress. Limited conclusions, however, can be drawn regarding the efficacy of this therapy due to the crossover design of the parent study. Nonetheless, the present study adds to the emerging literature base suggesting that psilocybin-facilitated therapy may enhance the psychological, emotional, and spiritual well-being of patients with life-threatening cancer.
 
I don't know if I believe that patients were still feeling the effects of a single dosage of psilocybin after 5 years. Every so often I will micro dose .3g and I absolutely do agree that it's effective as an antidepressant. But not for 5 years!
 
I ate mushrooms once in my late teens with my now wife and I saw a HUGE flaming sword hanging on my wall and I couldn't believe what I saw and started getting freaked out it was going to burn the house down. True story. I never touched them again after that lmao
 
I have done tons of LSD/mushrooms trips, even touching the heroic dose. It's such a degree in life, It opens you up to perceptions you can't even imagine them to exist, It's mind-crashing, you can completely be driven out of reality to far away places.
 
Like you think that taking a flight elsewhere in the world to unknown places is a trip? That's very much of a pussy compared to a 400ug LSD dose.
 
I ate mushrooms once in my late teens with my now wife and I saw a HUGE flaming sword hanging on my wall and I couldn't believe what I saw and started getting freaked out it was going to burn the house down. True story. I never touched them again after that lmao

well yea, as with any drug it can be overdone with negative consequences. id be willing to bet you had some waves of laughter mixed in there too, though. Through the years I've learned I don't really like hallucinating, so I keep the doses low. If you ate a 0.2g-0.4g dose or so, you would get the therapeutic effects without the "trip." I grind it up in a coffee grinder and put into one size 00 capsule and down the hatch. Works better for depression than any pharmaceutical i've ever tried, and there aren't many left that I haven't. No undesirable side effects, maybe with the exception of mildly sweaty palms shortly after ingesting.
 
well yea, as with any drug it can be overdone with negative consequences. id be willing to bet you had some waves of laughter mixed in there too, though. Through the years I've learned I don't really like hallucinating, so I keep the doses low. If you ate a 0.2g-0.4g dose or so, you would get the therapeutic effects without the "trip." I grind it up in a coffee grinder and put into one size 00 capsule and down the hatch. Works better for depression than any pharmaceutical i've ever tried, and there aren't many left that I haven't. No undesirable side effects, maybe with the exception of mildly sweaty palms shortly after ingesting.
In all honesty, after it happened and I realized what I was so "concerned" about I found it funny and still look back and laugh about it. I knew I was hallucinating because I was aware of what I had taken, but still found myself all paranoid this huge flaming sword was going to burn down my house.

Interesting what you said about essentially using it as an anti-depressant. What benefits did or do you notice from taking it for that reason?
 


Nearly five years after a group of cancer patients were given a single dose of a psychedelic drug to ease depression and anxiety, new research finds that many of them are still feeling the positive effects.

The patients were among a group of participants who had been given a dose of synthetic psilocybin — the psychedelic compound found in so-called magic mushrooms — in a 2016 study that looked at whether the drug could help with symptoms of cancer-related depression and anxiety. The drug was given in a controlled setting and the patients were monitored the entire time. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals

As to its effects on anxiety and depression, the psilocybin appeared to work: Eighty percent of the patients reported that their symptoms faded, and the effects lasted six months, the 2016 study found. At the time, this long-lasting effect was a landmark finding.

The new study, published Tuesday in the Journal of Psychopharmacology, followed up with 15 of those patients nearly 5 years later, and found that up to 80 percent were still experiencing significant improvements in cancer-related depression and anxiety. Nearly all of the participants attributed their positive life changes to the psychedelic-assisted therapy. SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals





Agin-Liebes GI, Malone T, Yalch MM, et al. Long-term follow-up of psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy for psychiatric and existential distress in patients with life-threatening cancer. Journal of Psychopharmacology 2020;34:155-66. https://doi.org/10.1177/0269881119897615

Background: A recently published randomized controlled trial compared single-dose psilocybin with single-dose niacin in conjunction with psychotherapy in participants with cancer-related psychiatric distress. Results suggested that psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy facilitated improvements in psychiatric and existential distress, quality of life, and spiritual well-being up to seven weeks prior to the crossover. At the 6.5-month follow-up, after the crossover, 60–80% of participants continued to meet criteria for clinically significant antidepressant or anxiolytic responses.

Methods: The present study is a long-term within-subjects follow-up analysis of self-reported symptomatology involving a subset of participants that completed the parent trial. All 16 participants who were still alive were contacted, and 15 participants agreed to participate at an average of 3.2 and 4.5 years following psilocybin administration.

Results: Reductions in anxiety, depression, hopelessness, demoralization, and death anxiety were sustained at the first and second follow-ups. Within-group effect sizes were large. At the second (4.5 year) follow-up approximately 60–80% of participants met criteria for clinically significant antidepressant or anxiolytic responses. Participants overwhelmingly (71–100%) attributed positive life changes to the psilocybin-assisted therapy experience and rated it among the most personally meaningful and spiritually significant experiences of their lives.

Conclusion: These findings suggest that psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy holds promise in promoting long-term relief from cancer-related psychiatric distress. Limited conclusions, however, can be drawn regarding the efficacy of this therapy due to the crossover design of the parent study. Nonetheless, the present study adds to the emerging literature base suggesting that psilocybin-facilitated therapy may enhance the psychological, emotional, and spiritual well-being of patients with life-threatening cancer.


Not much profit there, unlike traditional "meds".
 
I ate mushrooms once in my late teens with my now wife and I saw a HUGE flaming sword hanging on my wall and I couldn't believe what I saw and started getting freaked out it was going to burn the house down. True story. I never touched them again after that lmao

I don't think I believe that.
The only I time I can say I actually hallucinated was from being awake for 5 days/nights, and it didn't include things that were never there..
 
I don't know if I believe that patients were still feeling the effects of a single dosage of psilocybin after 5 years. Every so often I will micro dose .3g and I absolutely do agree that it's effective as an antidepressant. But not for 5 years!

Unlike traditional "meds", hallucinogens, let you see the glass, and in most cases, it's half full...
I've rarely felt part of something more, than on psychedelics. Call it what you will. "Reality" is an illusion..
 
I don't know if I believe that patients were still feeling the effects of a single dosage of psilocybin after 5 years. Every so often I will micro dose .3g and I absolutely do agree that it's effective as an antidepressant. But not for 5 years!

And I'm not buying into "microdosing".
 
I don't think I believe that.
The only I time I can say I actually hallucinated was from being awake for 5 days/nights, and it didn't include things that were never there..
You aren't sure if you believe it because it never happened to you? Everyone's experience can differ with pretty much anything especially when it comes to various drugs or compounds. I find it strange you felt the need to take time to post and "call out" what I experienced lolol

I have zero reason to make anything up especially something so trivial as I wouldn't bother to even begin wasting my time. However, even if what you say is true, perhaps something else was added to what I had. No idea - but what I do know, is exactly what I saw. And what I saw, was exactly as I described.

Take it or leave it
 
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