Democrats to ban the bible.

Granted, I dont think the Dems would outright ban the Bible, but they would probably try to pass legislation banning its use in any public building. So much for free speech and freedom of religion.
 
yes, let's have a socialist society with no religion or free speech. What's amazing is that liberals are trying to make this perfect utopia where you can't say anything offensive or show any signs of religion. What's great is that all it really does is weaken a nation and no other country in the world is as pc as we are and they are just fine. Liberals are all people who did not grow up in reality. Take any rich liberal and put him in a working man's job and see where he stands on issues. There are reasons why the working class isn't liberal, because it isn't fucking reality.
 
- in a public building...Like the ten commandments in a courthouse ? I wish that little botty pieces of that statue were lining my driveway.. I am as for free speech as anyone..but that is ludicrous. I cant believe you guys buy into this shit..
 
What I think is ridiculous is the LA County board removing Christian items from the courthouse that have been there for decades.

What I think is ridiculous is that people are so opposed to 10 statements of truth that would improve everyones lives.

What I think is ridiculous is the idea of Jewish and Christian symbols being removed, yet Islamic symbols are praised.

What I think is ridiculous is the idea of the govt stepping on religion, a place where it doesnt belong.

What I think is ridiculous is the people who think that freedom OF religion means freedom FROM religion.
 
Bob Smith said:
" freedom OF religion means freedom FROM religion."

It is..Jefferson said that very thing ?

I dont want creation or religion being taught in public schools...

I had the most enligthening class at Florida State U when i was a student there..i had a world history teacher on the first day of his class tell us " this is not sunday school..this is not bible study , if you think it is you are in the wrong class". I found the class fascinating but alot of folks didnt..they dropped the class and many of them complained. He was the most complained about and publicly protested professor at the university...

Point is people want their religion all rosey and hopeful. ..in most literal cases..it isnt..See the Galileo affair, the crusades...etc. Religion has done the world a disservice..but i would never advocate the bible being banned..


BTW Bob Smith, you are a hypocrite..Ask me why if you dont know ? You like being reminded of the 10 statements of truth , however have no interest in abiding by all ten of them..
 
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Quasimoto said:
It is..Jefferson said that very thing ?
How is freedom OF religion the same as freedom FROM religion? Its not.

Quasimoto said:
BTW Bob Smith, you are a hypocrite..Ask me why if you dont know ? You like being reminded of the 10 statements of truth , however have no interest in abiding by all ten of them..
Do tell, oh mighty one.
 
Bob - Are you married to Jewel yet ? Have you ever lusted after another mans wife, even in the pics section :D ? You cant have it both ways..You are a follower or you arent. We cant pick and choose the religous rules we live by and follow ..we measure up, or we dont.

Jefferson said it, you disagree with it. many dont disagree with it. I am not the mighty one..I am only the vocal minority.
 
Windigo said:
Atheism has also done the world a disservice. Must I remind you again of the tens of millions killed by the worlds first atheist state? In a society with no morals murder was regarded as little more than statistics.

Yes remind me...then i will remind you of the religious zealots that have killed in the name of God ( see the Chechen Islmamist seperatists recently),The Catholic church has been killing in the name of god long before Russia ( in your argument ) ever decided to be a godless government. For every example you give, i can provide a counter argument. This is an un-winnable point of difference Win.
 
Quasimoto said:
Bob - Are you married to Jewel yet ?
No, and were not having sex either, so whats your point?


Quasimoto said:
Have you ever lusted after another mans wife, even in the pics section :D ?
No, I Dont believe so. I may think a chick is hot, but that doesnt mean I lust after her or want to fuck the snot out of her.


Quasimoto said:
You cant have it both ways..You are a follower or you arent. We cant pick and choose the religous rules we live by and follow ..we measure up, or we dont.
If we are saved by the law, then you would be correct. But were not, and your wrong.

I am a Christian, I believe in Jesus, and I sin. I do my best not to, but Im human and make mistakes. Since there has only been one person who was perfect, I will put my faith in him to save me. Whether I follow the law or not isnt a qualification of being saved, though it does give great insight into a person's heart and motived.


Quasimoto said:
Jefferson said it, you disagree with it. many dont disagree with it. I am not the mighty one..I am only the vocal minority.
Please explain how they are identical.
 
But you lust after a woman, right ? I have seen the pics of Jewel in a nighty ? You took those pics with a clear mind?

Jefferson said exactly what you said....freedom of religion, and freedom from religion. I thought you were quoting him?

And who was the perfect person...And i dont want to hear you say Reagan either ? :D
 
Quasimoto said:
Yes remind me...then i will remind you of the religious zealots that have killed in the name of God ( see the Chechen Islmamist seperatists recently),The Catholic church has been killing in the name of god long before Russia ( in your argument ) ever decided to be a godless government. For every example you give, i can provide a counter argument. This is an un-winnable point of difference Win.
Quasi, I am more than positive that you are smart enough to be able to make a distinction between the teachings of a religion and the people that pervert those teachings. The Crusades is a good example. Christiantiy is a peaceful, loving religion, but some people twist it and take selected quotes out of context in order to support their perversions. We could sit around all day naming off tragedies that were orchestrated by "believers." The KKK is an organization that perverts the teachings of the Bible, as well.
 
Bob Smith said:
Quasi, I am more than positive that you are smart enough to be able to make a distinction between the teachings of a religion and the people that pervert those teachings. The Crusades is a good example. Christiantiy is a peaceful, loving religion, but some people twist it and take selected quotes out of context in order to support their perversions. We could sit around all day naming off tragedies that were orchestrated by "believers." The KKK is an organization that perverts the teachings of the Bible, as well.


The catholic church put the bible together bob ( see tribal council of Niceaea )? how can it be that they perverted it ?
 
Quasimoto said:
But you lust after a woman, right ? I have seen the pics of Jewel in a nighty ? You took those pics with a clear mind?
Those were taken a long time ago, but I admit that I didnt have the most pure thoughts while taking the pics. As I said, Im fallible.

Quasimoto said:
And who was the perfect person...And i dont want to hear you say Reagan either ? :D
He was good, but too old to be perfect.
 
Quasimoto said:
The catholic church put the bible together bob ( see tribal council of Niceaea )? how can it be that they perverted it ?
Dont get me started about the Catholic church.
 
Bob Smith said:
Those were taken a long time ago, but I admit that I didnt have the most pure thoughts while taking the pics. As I said, Im fallible.


He was good, but too old to be perfect.


yeh. maybe without that whole iran-contra thing, he would have been close, even though he was a repugnican.


I would love to have a guy like reagan in office right now. Thats why i am voting for Kerry !!!!! Yeh RIght..
 
Bob Smith said:
Im not debating politics tonight, unless it relates to our original topic.


Me either..i am sitting in Norman OK tonite, waiting to watch my mighty oregon ducks take on the Boomer Sooners. I am wide awake..thanks for keeping me company Bob.
 
Quasimoto said:
Me either..i am sitting in Norman OK tonite, waiting to watch my mighty oregon ducks take on the Boomer Sooners. I am wide awake..thanks for keeping me company Bob.
Anytime, you big atheist. :D
 
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