Defiant Pharma (US Domestic)

[Defiant Pharma]

Give up on HDL, last I checked mine was 5. Pretend it doesn't exist. Now go all out on LDL.

Out of sight, out of mind. Like your style Photon. LMAO

 

[Inkniron87]

Well @RockyP started some leftover tren ace 20mg Ed yesterday. Have some of Defiants ace and tne on the way. Doing this shit bro. Almost wanna throw in some var on top of it…

 

[chyde14]

Touchdown from D today. Purchased last week during Pre-Order. I got an extra vial of Super Test. Much Appreciated! All of
the 4 TNE 100 came crashed which was expected… I live in a cold place. No problem at getting it back into solution though. 10 minutes on a candle warmer and it was good to go. I can attest it works. Did not want to stop working out today lol.

Thanks D! You the man!

 

[BALLISTIC]

Check your ferritin first. For whatever reason more and more guys who have a history of blasting (especially high dosages of EQ) have chronic low ferritin. Don’t want to be donating blood with low or even low end of normal ferritin levels.

And this in case anyone wants to read. Rock is right.

Fixing High Hemoglobin or Hematocrit and Low Ferritin While on TRT

 

[Andrewthatguy]

And this in case anyone wants to read. Rock is right.

Fixing High Hemoglobin or Hematocrit and Low Ferritin While on TRT

Goated fucking link. Instant bookmark

 

[BALLISTIC]

Goated fucking link. Instant bookmark

 

[ThatGuy500mg]

Well @RockyP started some leftover tren ace 20mg Ed yesterday. Have some of Defiants ace and tne on the way. Doing this shit bro. Almost wanna throw in some var on top of it…

We’re doing the exact same cycle bro lol. I’m adding my car in on the 1st though so I can have that finished look a little closer to the star of my vacation

 

[Inkniron87]

We’re doing the exact same cycle bro lol. I’m adding my car in on the 1st though so I can have that finished look a little closer to the star of my vacation

Actually I think I got the idea from you in here lol. 20mg subq ed. Honestly I think I’ll always do my ace like this. I’m polishing off a cut too right before I blast for lean gains. Can’t wait to try D’s TNE for early morning boost for gym. I train at 5am so hoping this is the ticket. If so, I’ll be buying a kit lol

 

[RockyP]

One of the things that's not stressed often enough is that if you are using Tren Ace, you have lots of optionality in terms of ramping the dose up / down. So you can start nice and low for a week or so, increase slowly, and (learn from my mistakes) don't just drop it cold turkey at the end. Consider tapering it down, just to give your body some time to re-acclimate to physiology without tren. If you do decide to just stop it outright that's fine but be sure to adjust your training volume way down as you'll find that your recovery likely hits a wall once the tren has left the chat. Once you decide what dosage you tolerate you can always try hex or enanthate for smoother sailing. Not that Acetate isn't smooth, it just hits hard / fast, but that can be an advantage as I mentioned above.

Also, while we don't have any hard evidence to support this (we almost did in another vendor thread before some of the elders left the board), I'm a believer that the tren should not look like maple syrup or motor oil. A modest yellow color, perhaps a bit dulled if it's in GSO, is what you're looking for. But again, ZERO proof that any of the darker trens are more toxic / harmful. I eat with my eyes and I pin the same way. I like my food to look somewhat appetizing, even if it's all going to the same place. I asked my wife to pin me with some old school Tren E once. She refused to do it. In her defense it was nearly brown.

Edit: nice feature if hex and enanthate is self-tapering once they’re done. No need to ramp down. They’ll leave the system more gradually.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

One of the things that's not stressed often enough is that if you are using Tren Ace, you have lots of optionality in terms of ramping the dose up / down. So you can start nice and low for a week or so, increase slowly, and (learn from my mistakes) don't just drop it cold turkey at the end. Consider tapering it down, just to give your body some time to re-acclimate to physiology without tren. If you do decide to just stop it outright that's fine but be sure to adjust your training volume way down as you'll find that your recovery likely hits a wall once the tren has left the chat. Once you decide what dosage you tolerate you can always try hex or enanthate for smoother sailing. Not that Acetate isn't smooth, it just hits hard / fast, but that can be an advantage as I mentioned above.

Also, while we don't have any hard evidence to support this (we almost did in another vendor thread before some of the elders left the board), I'm a believer that the tren should not look like maple syrup or motor oil. A modest yellow color, perhaps a bit dulled if it's in GSO, is what you're looking for. But again, ZERO proof that any of the darker trens are more toxic / harmful. I eat with my eyes and I pin the same way. I like my food to look somewhat appetizing, even if it's all going to the same place.

So what would be your recommendation on the titration down schedule and stuff, maybe with like percentages and stuff, cause I don’t wanna give out numbers lol I’m just gonna get trolled.

 

[RockyP]

So what would be your recommendation on the titration down schedule and stuff, maybe with like percentages and stuff, cause I don’t wanna give out numbers lol I’m just gonna get trolled.

If you end up with 30 mg daily, maybe a week at 20 and a week at 10. If you end up higher, say 60 mg daily, then maybe a week at 40 and a week at 20.

I fuck up regularly and am happy to share my experiences. I've mentioned it before, but I stopped my 210 / week cold turkey and about a week or so after the last pin I did a 2 hour leg session that left me literally bedridden the next day. Had flu-like symptoms, resting pulse was nearly 100, body aches, etc. I had no cough / fever otherwise I was sure I had Covid / Flu. Was likely mild rhabdo and / or just frying my CNS. Guzzled water with electrolytes, some NSAIDs, and lots of food and I was back on my feet the next day.

So yea, try not to do that. It could have been avoided by my bringing down the volume but I was equally as stupid in that regard.

 

[Andrewthatguy]

If you end up with 30 mg daily, maybe a week at 20 and a week at 10. If you end up higher, say 60 mg daily, then maybe a week at 40 and a week at 20.

Appreciate the answer.

 

[Inkniron87]

One of the things that's not stressed often enough is that if you are using Tren Ace, you have lots of optionality in terms of ramping the dose up / down. So you can start nice and low for a week or so, increase slowly, and (learn from my mistakes) don't just drop it cold turkey at the end. Consider tapering it down, just to give your body some time to re-acclimate to physiology without tren. If you do decide to just stop it outright that's fine but be sure to adjust your training volume way down as you'll find that your recovery likely hits a wall once the tren has left the chat. Once you decide what dosage you tolerate you can always try hex or enanthate for smoother sailing. Not that Acetate isn't smooth, it just hits hard / fast, but that can be an advantage as I mentioned above.

Also, while we don't have any hard evidence to support this (we almost did in another vendor thread before some of the elders left the board), I'm a believer that the tren should not look like maple syrup or motor oil. A modest yellow color, perhaps a bit dulled if it's in GSO, is what you're looking for. But again, ZERO proof that any of the darker trens are more toxic / harmful. I eat with my eyes and I pin the same way. I like my food to look somewhat appetizing, even if it's all going to the same place. I asked my wife to pin me with some old school Tren E once. She refused to do it. In her defense it was nearly brown.

Your input and guidance is always appreciated man. I really like the idea of it. I always used Tren E and I have some left to use down the road. Would you do that Ed too?

 

[mattox]

Actually I think I got the idea from you in here lol. 20mg subq ed.

@Inkniron87, forgive my ignorance. In this specific case with Tren A, what is the purpose of going subq instead of IM? To slow absorption/more steady blood serum concentrations? I'm also currently at 20mg ED but going IM. It's mixed in the same syringe with other oils.

 

[Inkniron87]

@Inkniron87, forgive my ignorance. In this specific case with Tren A, what is the purpose of going subq instead of IM? To slow absorption/more steady blood serum concentrations? I'm also currently at 20mg ED but going IM. It's mixed in the same syringe with other oils.

Mainly because I’m trying to give spots a break on IM. Now once I get the TNE I may just pin it with that IM. Right now it’s just smooth throwing it subq while doing my other pinning is already enough oil being test c and mast e

 

[RockyP]

Your input and guidance is always appreciated man. I really like the idea of it. I always used Tren E and I have some left to use down the road. Would you do that Ed too?

That's totally up to you. I usually go EOD with the longer esters. I try to keep pins to 1 cc or less so I can use the smaller syringes. Much easier to push compared to the 3 cc. No harm in going ED with long esters. But over time the pins do add up and we all get injection fatigue.

 

[Inkniron87]

That's totally up to you. I usually go EOD with the longer esters. I try to keep pins to 1 cc or less so I can use the smaller syringes. Much easier to push compared to the 3 cc. No harm in going ED with long esters. But over time the pins do add up and we all get injection fatigue.

Sounds good to me that’s what I’ll do then.

 

[Athleticfreak]

I dont see it mentioned much but if you are prone to high estrogen be aware that TNE can cause elevation.

Someone on here has ran labs that say otherwise. Have you?

 

[mattox]

Mainly because I’m trying to give spots a break on IM. Now once I get the TNE I may just pin it with that IM. Right now it’s just smooth throwing it subq while doing my other pinning is already enough oil being test c and mast e

Awesome! Thank you! I hear ya on the giving spots a break! Sitting here right now trying to find someplace new to pin my Test C, Mast E, Tren A and MENT!

 

[Inkniron87]

Awesome! Thank you! I hear ya on the giving spots a break! Sitting here right now trying to find someplace new to pin my Test C, Mast E, Tren A and MENT!

It’s the only compound I’m doing it with but I seen the other fella doing it with good results and I thought damn that’s easy and fast enough I can throw some tren a in to finish out this cut properly for some weeks ahead. I’m seeing a lot of people using ment and loving it. It’s in my thoughts. How you liking it ?