Deca Vs Tren on bulking.

[Habib]

Is a Deca bulk better than a Tren bulk?

Does the Tren recomp so much more than deca bulks such that to an extent I'd rather recomp than bulk?

Some people say they dont gain mass on cycle, I plan on using them both at 150mg each.

What about Trestolone?

 

[brutalbuilt]

deca is better for bulking imo cause it doesnt cause appetite and sleep issues like tren

its also way less toxic so you can run it longer

 

[Chips7]

By far the best product for gaining weight is your diet.

 

[Habib]

By far the best product for gaining weight is your diet.

Definately. I just plan on eating whatever I want my always including 2 chicken breasts and 2 protein shakes for protein 200g+

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

Definately. I just plan on eating whatever I want my always including 2 chicken breasts and 2 protein shakes for protein 200g+

I eat a 2 packs of chicken thighs which is for 2 of my 5-6 meals and it consists of 120+ grams of protein in those 2 meals…..

Protein shakes are useless in your case. Eat real food.

Plus if anything you say is true about your situation you should not be taking 19 nors or steroids for that matter.

 

[hometeam]

It's hard to say. Because with high dose tren the sky is the limit on bulking as long as you're training and force feeding yourself and using the weight gain shakes, and eventually insulin as a nutrient multiplier.

It's really hard to out eat a high dose of tren and provide yourself enough calories to build the muscle your body wants to build. When you're not eating enough it burns fat to build muscle and you recomp instead of bulk.

But with deca you get bloated, and put on fat much easier. And you'll gain more weight but how much of that was bloat and fat?

So people use deca to bulk and then tren to turn the excess fat from the deca cycle to muscle. I'll throw a little bit of tren into my bulking cycle because I don't like being too fat and bloated.

Would you rather get fat and bloated on a mild steroid, then fix things with tren? Or would you rather run a bunch of harsh tren while putting as much effort as humanly and medically possible into feeding your body?

 

[theotherguy]

So I could be way off base on this, but I read recently that cortisol plays a role in processing carbohydrates. Well tren suppresses cortisol. I have no data or information to back up what I’m about to say other than it’s just a hunch that I have:

I believe that tren doesn’t help with bulking as well because your body does not process carbs the same when running tren due to cortisol suppression.

With that said, nandrolone all day for bulking. The jury is still out on MENT, but the couple of anecdotes I’ve heard tell me it’s pretty good for bulking too if you can control the ME2

 

[Habib]

I eat a 2 packs of chicken thighs which is for 2 of my 5-6 meals and it consists of 120+ grams of protein in those 2 meals…..

Protein shakes are useless in your case. Eat real food.

Plus if anything you say is true about your situation you should not be taking 19 nors or steroids for that matter.

I know I'm just so insecure of my body

I'm just gonna use the weight gainer shakes and eat everything insight

 

[Habib]

It's hard to say. Because with high dose tren the sky is the limit on bulking as long as you're training and force feeding yourself and using the weight gain shakes, and eventually insulin as a nutrient multiplier.

It's really hard to out eat a high dose of tren and provide yourself enough calories to build the muscle your body wants to build. When you're not eating enough it burns fat to build muscle and you recomp instead of bulk.

But with deca you get bloated, and put on fat much easier. And you'll gain more weight but how much of that was bloat and fat?

So people use deca to bulk and then tren to turn the excess fat from the deca cycle to muscle. I'll throw a little bit of tren into my bulking cycle because I don't like being too fat and bloated.

Would you rather get fat and bloated on a mild steroid, then fix things with tren? Or would you rather run a bunch of harsh tren while putting as much effort as humanly and medically possible into feeding your body?

I'm looking to keep bodyfat down. The question is, higher Tren or higher deca. The ratio. Could run 100 deca 200 Tren with test. The answer is it depends lol. But which one do you reccomend

 

[Pineapples4Puss]

I'm looking to keep bodyfat down. The question is, higher Tren or higher deca. The ratio. Could run 100 deca 200 Tren with test. The answer is it depends lol. But which one do you reccomend

Habib there is no eating everything in sight and keeping body fat down…

You’re built like the cinnamon man in your pictures you’re very lean. Sacrifice some body fat now to pack on size.

You shouldn’t just hop on cycle either train natty for 6-12 weeks minimum then do it.

 

[Gixjon22]

By far the best product for gaining weight is your diet.

Wholeheartedly disagree. Cause um. Natural dudes tend to have significantly less muscle mass than someone running gear. Testosterone is the best all around mass builder, all things considered.

To the op. Better to just pick on compound based off how each affects you and run 350mg instead of doubling down on the 19 nors. Unless youve done it before and have yielded good results. I can run a shit load of tren. Can run 300 mgs of tren and nandralone together but ive found that i like how i feel in general better on nandralone.

 

[Habib]

Habib there is no eating everything in sight and keeping body fat down…

You’re built like the cinnamon man in your pictures you’re very lean. Sacrifice some body fat now to pack on size.

You shouldn’t just hop on cycle either train natty for 6-12 weeks minimum then do it.

Thank you for giving me solid advice and not putting me down like some other users here. I will definately do that

 

[Rido]

With your mental health issues you posted about you shouldn't be on either with two substances that are known for causing some psychological problems

 

[Habib]

With your mental health issues you posted about you shouldn't be on either with two substances that are known for causing some psychological problems

I'm taking really low doses!! I know I shouldn't be taking them but I really NEED to improve my body faster than natty gains allow. I'm so depresssed.

 

[Rido]

I'm taking really low doses!! I know I shouldn't be taking them but I really NEED to improve my body faster than natty gains allow. I'm so depresssed.

thats not gonna fix your depression.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Why tren or deca ? Testo with gh and oral is top choice. Lots of test and drol u can use AI and or masterin when y get wet.
You can also utilize burners etc. It's nit the rule to use deca or tren.
I've abused the shit out of tren and deca. Nowadays I do my physique what I like with compounds that don't mess with my head : test , oral , burners ,gh ,slin ,peps

 

[Jestopherson]

I'm taking really low doses!! I know I shouldn't be taking them but I really NEED to improve my body faster than natty gains allow. I'm so depresssed.

Then use testosterone. A moderate dose of that will do just fine.

I have chronic anxiety and nandrolone damn near made me suicidal. If you're depressed from your body issues changing your body won't fix them. You need to sort out those issues, you'll never be happy. You'll just end up hurting yourself.


If you want fast gains.

500mg of test e for 16 weeks.
Anavar 60mg a day for the last 8 weeks.

Eat at a 250-300 cal surplus to minimize fat gain.

Mass gainer shakes are pure sugar. Literally. You'll just get fat using them.

You've never run a cycle. Had a terrible mental health situation and you want to run the 2 worst steroids for mental health. Are you kidding me?

If you train hard. Use test. And EAT. You will gain, and fast.

 

[eery]

Definately. I just plan on eating whatever I want my always including 2 chicken breasts and 2 protein shakes for protein 200g+

enjoy getting obese..

Then use testosterone. A moderate dose of that will do just fine.

I have chronic anxiety and nandrolone damn near made me suicidal. If you're depressed from your body issues changing your body won't fix them. You need to sort out those issues, you'll never be happy. You'll just end up hurting yourself.


If you want fast gains.

500mg of test e for 16 weeks.
Anavar 60mg a day for the last 8 weeks.

Eat at a 250-300 cal surplus to minimize fat gain.

Mass gainer shakes are pure sugar. Literally. You'll just get fat using them.

You've never run a cycle. Had a terrible mental health situation and you want to run the 2 worst steroids for mental health. Are you kidding me?

If you train hard. Use test. And EAT. You will gain, and fast.

This is great advice.


also read this a couple times:

"If you're depressed from your body issues changing your body won't fix them. You need to sort out those issues, you'll never be happy. You'll just end up hurting yourself."

 

[barbell001]

I can guarantee from what I have seen that if you already suffer from depression, then once you jump on trenbolone you will be worse - much worse. These kind of guys seem to become instantly aggressive and hostile with it too and hate the entire world and everyone in it. Deca is also quite a head altering compound too, for me it gets me thinking a lot about past relationships and loves too, strange as it sounds along with constant dreams about them.

Aside from all that though to answer your question, on Deca you will put on more weight over all in the form of water, fat and muscle and not so much in the form of strength and power. On trenbolone you will only put on muscle, zero water and barely any fat diet depending. On Tren you will be way damn stronger and it will also heal your tendons and cartilege. Most guys however struggle to eat on trenbolone, it also depends on the lab that you are using too as to how you feel on it. Some are uplifting and energetic in nature, some are downright rough and depressive with headaches.

 

[Habib]

enjoy getting obese..


This is great advice.


also read this a couple times:

"If you're depressed from your body issues changing your body won't fix them. You need to sort out those issues, you'll never be happy. You'll just end up hurting yourself."

I know that's so true, but it's so easy to just get the girls call your fake love a win and pretend to be happy