CRITICAL anabolics (UK UGL)

[Sean Critical]

Hi mate. Genuinely a big Critical fan.

I did recently reach out about getting a product tested and was told it wouldn't be covered because it had already been tested once (the mast e). I couldn't find the result posted anywhere though.

The Mast P and Mast E JANO tests have been posted in the group chat and in the media. Tommy put a post up a while ago with the changes to testing and it’s also been posted on Telegram and the Critical Updates channel.

We haven’t let anyone down yet with any products because we are extremely strict with testing—nothing gets released without a raw test. We would love to see a variety of customer tests, but that just isn’t happening. No body to my knowledge has ever done batch qr codes. There will be people that doubt it but we have never given anyone a reason to. People have there opinions on it and that's cool. We are going to go this way as we feel it's the right move and all our customers are happy with the changes.

 

[Missingintheabyss]

The Mast P and Mast E JANO tests have been posted in the group chat and in the media. Tommy put a post up a while ago with the changes to testing and it’s also been posted on Telegram and the Critical Updates channel.

We haven’t let anyone down yet with any products because we are extremely strict with testing—nothing gets released without a raw test. We would love to see a variety of customer tests, but that just isn’t happening. No body to my knowledge has ever done batch qr codes. There will be people that doubt it but we have never given anyone a reason to. People have there opinions on it and that's cool. We are going to go this way as we feel it's the right move and all our customers are happy with the changes.

I did go through all the posts here, and the media in the tg group chat and updates. Couldn't see the mast e - of course that doesn't mean I didn't miss it but I did check twice.

Anyway, like I said, big fan.

 

[Sampei]

There have been countless sources on here who have been mercilessly berated in order to get them to reimburse for third party testing. This is the first time I've seen a source who initially reimbursed third party testing then rescind on that promise.

You said it yourself - 'we can do all the testing we want, but a customer test will always hit harder.' It also invokes a certain level of trust and good faith. Here on Meso, reimbursent for third party testing is inviolable.

Third party testing isn't totally infallible, I know. But neither is your QR code system. Hypothetically, how can you guarantee that that particular vial is from the batch that corresponds to the test results from that particular QR codes? You can't.

Is reimbursing all these Primo third party tests really putting that severe of a dent in your bottom line? Most people don't test. But knowing you're a UGL that reimburses those tests does give added confidence.

I'm not trying to shit on Critical, but just giving my two cents.

@Sampei sorry for calling you into this. But are @dasistmane and myself really being unreasonable here?

The whole thing is very simple: a QR code means fuck all. I brew 10 batches put the same QR code on all of them and... What benefit my customers gets? To get treated like fucking fools.

It's funny because they could just offer testing credit, it reduce the cost of reimbursment by a factor of 3 to 5 at least if not even more and it still let ppl test what they feel like.

Yeah this is a shit move from critical. They could implement a rule that you can test one substance Max 3 times each month for example if they are so pissed off about all those primo testing.

The whole QR code and no reimbursement is pure shit and a big step back, fuck we got Chinese sources offering reimbursement and a domestic one that praise themselves to be the cream of the cream doesn't?

Ridiculous, a clown show basically

 

[Sean Critical]

There have been countless sources on here who have been mercilessly berated in order to get them to reimburse for third party testing. This is the first time I've seen a source who initially reimbursed third party testing then rescind on that promise.

You said it yourself - 'we can do all the testing we want, but a customer test will always hit harder.' It also invokes a certain level of trust and good faith. Here on Meso, reimbursent for third party testing is inviolable.

Third party testing isn't totally infallible, I know. But neither is your QR code system. Hypothetically, how can you guarantee that that particular vial is from the batch that corresponds to the test results from that particular QR codes? You can't.

Is reimbursing all these Primo third party tests really putting that severe of a dent in your bottom line? Most people don't test. But knowing you're a UGL that reimburses those tests does give added confidence.

I'm not trying to shit on Critical, but just giving my two cents.

@Sampei sorry for calling you into this. But are @dasistmane and myself really being unreasonable here?

Also it's not completely stopping we are allowing one person to test one vile per batch and they can get that refunded.

The information on the change in full is in here and the critical telegram updates channel. Posted a while ago.

So if you want to take advantage of that you can email me and would be happy to put you down for it.

 

[Sean Critical]

I did go through all the posts here, and the media in the tg group chat and updates. Couldn't see the mast e - of course that doesn't mean I didn't miss it but I did check twice.

Anyway, like I said, big fan.

That was tested by a customer already and paid for. We tested the batch and then a customer tested it again and we paid for it. Same as now with qr codes one customer can test one item from each batch.If you go into the updates channel all the information on the change is there. Tommy has posted the information on here, telegram and the updates channel.

 

[Missingintheabyss]

That was tested by a customer already and paid for. We tested the batch and then a customer tested it again and we paid for it. Same as now with qr codes one customer can test one item from each batch.If you go into the updates channel all the information on the change is there. Tommy has posted the information on here, telegram and the updates channel.

More than happy to go with the results already done on this batch mate. Just can't find them

 

[Vitamin T]

That was tested by a customer already and paid for. We tested the batch and then a customer tested it again and we paid for it. Same as now with qr codes one customer can test one item from each batch.If you go into the updates channel all the information on the change is there. Tommy has posted the information on here, telegram and the updates channel.

Sean, as a critical customer, I think the QR system is a great idea, & I fully support this transition. For me, being able to see the purity of the raws & the dosing for that batch of vials is something I’d like to see.

People seem to forget that Critical sponsor athletes. Do these people really think that these athletes would be using Critical if they didn’t have full trust in the products they were using?

Critical also pay for monthly blood work for a random customer to be reviewed by a professional blood work analyst - these bloods will also back up the fact that the gear is properly dosed.

Keep Killin’ it, Critical.

 

[Alert_Custard]

I haven't used Critical yet, but makes financial sense to me to stop paying for testing if it is the same product over and over.

I am planning to use you guys when my stash needs replenishing.

 

[Sean Critical]

The whole thing is very simple: a QR code means fuck all. I brew 10 batches put the same QR code on all of them and... What benefit my customers gets? To get treated like fucking fools.

It's funny because they could just offer testing credit, it reduce the cost of reimbursment by a factor of 3 to 5 at least if not even more and it still let ppl test what they feel like.

Yeah this is a shit move from critical. They could implement a rule that you can test one substance Max 3 times each month for example if they are so pissed off about all those primo testing.

The whole QR code and no reimbursement is pure shit and a big step back, fuck we got Chinese sources offering reimbursement and a domestic one that praise themselves to be the cream of the cream doesn't?

Ridiculous, a clown show basically

Hardly a clown show, is it? There is a reason why we are number one, and it’s definitely not because we listen to people like you. We are going with QR codes and batch IDs. If people still doubt us, they can email me, and if an item hasn’t been tested, they can receive store credit for the test and the vial.

We think one test per batch is enough. You’re going to say it will be faked because you’re from another lab. We’ve heard it all before. You lot just love to jump on the bandwagon over nothing.

All this information has been public knowledge for a few months, so I don’t know why you’re putting your two‑pence worth in now.

 

[Sean Critical]

I haven't used Critical yet, but makes financial sense to me to stop paying for testing if it is the same product over and over.

I am planning to use you guys when my stash needs replenishing.

That's what we want to stop. One test per batch is enough and the qr code system will link each batch to the qr code. We been getting hate for everything we do but we are the number one lab in the UK we don't listen to other labs or haters from other labs we listen to what our customers want.

 

[Sean Critical]

Sean, as a critical customer, I think the QR system is a great idea, & I fully support this transition. For me, being able to see the purity of the raws & the dosing for that batch of vials is something I’d like to see.

People seem to forget that Critical sponsor athletes. Do these people really think that these athletes would be using Critical if they didn’t have full trust in the products they were using?

Critical also pay for monthly blood work for a random customer to be reviewed by a professional blood work analyst - these bloods will also back up the fact that the gear is properly dosed.

Keep Killin’ it, Critical.

appreciate that mate

 

[dasistmane]

Sean, as a critical customer, I think the QR system is a great idea, & I fully support this transition. For me, being able to see the purity of the raws & the dosing for that batch of vials is something I’d like to see.

People seem to forget that Critical sponsor athletes. Do these people really think that these athletes would be using Critical if they didn’t have full trust in the products they were using?

Critical also pay for monthly blood work for a random customer to be reviewed by a professional blood work analyst - these bloods will also back up the fact that the gear is properly dosed.

Keep Killin’ it, Critical.

If you're not one of Critical's alt accounts then this is extremely embarrassing brown nosing.

'Keep Killin' it, Critical' lmao

Also @Sean Critical how are you determining that you test the most out of any lab lol. That's pure nonsense.

 

[Sampei]

Hardly a clown show, is it? There is a reason why we are number one, and it’s definitely not because we listen to people like you. We are going with QR codes and batch IDs. If people still doubt us, they can email me, and if an item hasn’t been tested, they can receive store credit for the test and the vial.

We think one test per batch is enough. You’re going to say it will be faked because you’re from another lab. We’ve heard it all before. You lot just love to jump on the bandwagon over nothing.

All this information has been public knowledge for a few months, so I don’t know why you’re putting your two‑pence worth in now.

I got tagged and I gave my 2cents as a user wanted my opinion, to be honest I could care less of your lab, you british cunt, funny tho you keep ignoring the main point of my post: QR codes are the same as batch numbers. They mean zero, as they can just be printed indefinitely and you can keep saying is the same batch where it isn't.

We have seen that so many times it's a well known story to anyone that has been around enough to see the story repeat itself.